Dude, was surfing behind my 07 Outback today. 800 across the back (seat in sun deck position), 600 down the surf side. Sitting on top of that it looks like a 3 ft drop in, no props. 10MPH, I surf a Walkers Project, weigh 185. My 9 yr old can go all day on my board with 800lb balast. Oh yeah, we have no tower!