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    Quote Originally Posted by goose View Post
    Remember I am not in marketing, so the quality of my pictures are not overly impressive. haha.

    But as you can see, this is the port lounge cushion storage area. At the deepest point, it is a little over 25" to seat bottom. Then length between stringer walls is about 46". I was going to send you a pic of the R&D boat with a standard fly high fat sack in there, but then I realized how dirty that boat was and didn't want to post it on here for my boss to see. hahaha

    I also took a shot to show how the bow backs are hinged and the area behind the drivers footwell. As you can see on this model we put a free air sub in there currently, but there is plenty of room and accessibility to install a nice sub box and be able to work on it. You can also see in the picture how the storage is non-carpet with nonskid. It really adds a lot of storage up there that in the past was full of an IBS system.

    I knew you guys would like that Ultra blue boat. I think it is currently my favorite color...

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    Wow, it is deep lol. Thanks for the pics. You sure a helping me make my decision easier lol.

    Although I have one gripe maybe you can bring up to someone (whoever makes these decisions).

    Why do you guys use that sub as a Free Air Sub? People come on here all the time and say how horrible it is & they think it's a shitty sub. I know for. A fact it is not shitty cause I have 4. They ARE NOT Free Air Subs. They need a box to sound good. A small 10" box I guess would increase build costs but not by much for a better sound & installed how it should be installed. Just my 2 cents.

    Thanks again for the pics

    PS post the R&D pics...I won't tell


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    Quote Originally Posted by BrettLee3232 View Post
    Wow, it is deep lol. Thanks for the pics. You sure a helping me make my decision easier lol.

    Although I have one gripe maybe you can bring up to someone (whoever makes these decisions).

    Why do you guys use that sub as a Free Air Sub? People come on here all the time and say how horrible it is & they think it's a shitty sub. I know for. A fact it is not shitty cause I have 4. They ARE NOT Free Air Subs. They need a box to sound good. A small 10" box I guess would increase build costs but not by much for a better sound & installed how it should be installed. Just my 2 cents.

    Thanks again for the pics

    PS post the R&D pics...I won't tell


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    Brett, I will reply Monday. Don't have time today and spending the weekend with my family. I try and disconnect from work a little on weekends so just didn't want you to think I was leaving you hanging. Hope everyone has a great weekend!
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    Quote Originally Posted by goose View Post
    Brett, I will reply Monday. Don't have time today and spending the weekend with my family. I try and disconnect from work a little on weekends so just didn't want you to think I was leaving you hanging. Hope everyone has a great weekend!
    No problem man. Enjoy the weekend


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    Just curious, How long does it take at the factory for them to build one of these boats start to finish?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bsharer View Post
    Just curious, How long does it take at the factory for them to build one of these boats start to finish?
    around 9 days
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrettLee3232 View Post
    Wow, it is deep lol. Thanks for the pics. You sure a helping me make my decision easier lol.

    Although I have one gripe maybe you can bring up to someone (whoever makes these decisions).

    Why do you guys use that sub as a Free Air Sub? People come on here all the time and say how horrible it is & they think it's a shitty sub. I know for. A fact it is not shitty cause I have 4. They ARE NOT Free Air Subs. They need a box to sound good. A small 10" box I guess would increase build costs but not by much for a better sound & installed how it should be installed. Just my 2 cents.

    Thanks again for the pics

    PS post the R&D pics...I won't tell


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    Hey Brett, Sorry about delay. It is amazing how fast Mondays fly by sometimes. hahaha

    In regards to your question about the Sub, I totally agree that it would sound much better if it was mounted in a true enclosure. We do that on the Mojo Pro Sub and on all the Supra Subs. The way we do it on the Pro and Supra is with a fiberglass enclosure we build in house. This is a terrible excuse, but currently we have a hard time building all the current small parts and it is a resource issue. But we are constantly making changes to that and hopefully sooner than later we will be improving that area of the plant and adding an enclosure to all subs. Maybe that will be one of the 2019 improvements. The good news is we have tried to think ahead and until we offer it from the factory, there is plenty of room to build a custom box in there if you want to do that yourself.

    In addition to that, the truth is we will probably never be a "custom" stereo level installation. We are a manufacturing facility and unfortunately part of that is hitting manufacturing tack times and delivery. We try and treat every boat with the highest quality like a custom boat, but getting the absolute best sound or performance out of a stereo requires a little more fine tuning than we currently are set up to do. We have amp setup sheets and we do adjust every amp, but again getting the best performance out of an amp requires tuning to make sure all gains, crossovers, filters, etc are setup just right. We also typically have our amps set on the more conservative side. I am sure many of you have found that out and by adjusting the amps, you can improve performance. We understand that and we are constantly trying to improve that, but sometimes the improvements are more baby steps than anything.

    Anyways, hopefully we will continue to improve all our "performance" related components including subs. But until then, we are trying to give you plenty of space and room to do whatever you would like. Hope that makes sense....
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    Quote Originally Posted by goose View Post
    Hey Brett, Sorry about delay. It is amazing how fast Mondays fly by sometimes. hahaha

    In regards to your question about the Sub, I totally agree that it would sound much better if it was mounted in a true enclosure. We do that on the Mojo Pro Sub and on all the Supra Subs. The way we do it on the Pro and Supra is with a fiberglass enclosure we build in house. This is a terrible excuse, but currently we have a hard time building all the current small parts and it is a resource issue. But we are constantly making changes to that and hopefully sooner than later we will be improving that area of the plant and adding an enclosure to all subs. Maybe that will be one of the 2019 improvements. The good news is we have tried to think ahead and until we offer it from the factory, there is plenty of room to build a custom box in there if you want to do that yourself.

    In addition to that, the truth is we will probably never be a "custom" stereo level installation. We are a manufacturing facility and unfortunately part of that is hitting manufacturing tack times and delivery. We try and treat every boat with the highest quality like a custom boat, but getting the absolute best sound or performance out of a stereo requires a little more fine tuning than we currently are set up to do. We have amp setup sheets and we do adjust every amp, but again getting the best performance out of an amp requires tuning to make sure all gains, crossovers, filters, etc are setup just right. We also typically have our amps set on the more conservative side. I am sure many of you have found that out and by adjusting the amps, you can improve performance. We understand that and we are constantly trying to improve that, but sometimes the improvements are more baby steps than anything.

    Anyways, hopefully we will continue to improve all our "performance" related components including subs. But until then, we are trying to give you plenty of space and room to do whatever you would like. Hope that makes sense....
    Thanks Goose,

    I understand, it's just not a Free Air Sub so people come on here and want to rip it out because it doesn't sound good and they think it's a crappy sub when it's not.....just my 2 cents

    Ok I have another ballast question. In regards to the rear lockers, when you have the storage tray installed, how much room do you have between bag and bottom or the tray? Do you have dimensions of the locker? Why does it look like the side panels are at an angle? Looks like there's a bunch of room on the sides of you remove the panel? Or is it just an illusion? 🤷🏼*♂️

    How much weight do you think those trays can hold? You think 2 AO coolers filled with beer? Haha

    Thanks again for all your help!!


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    Last edited by BrettLee3232; 08-29-2017 at 03:34 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrettLee3232 View Post
    Thanks Goose,

    I understand, it's just not a Free Air Sub so people come on here and want to rip it out because it doesn't sound good and they think it's a crappy sub when it's not.....just my 2 cents

    Ok I have another ballast question. In regards to the rear lockers, when you have the storage tray installed, how much room do you have between bag and bottom or the tray? Do you have dimensions of the locker? Why does it look like the side panels are at an angle? Looks like there's a bunch of room on the sides of you remove the panel? Or is it just an illusion? 🤷🏼*♂️

    How much weight do you think those trays can hold? You think 2 AO coolers filled with beer? Haha

    Thanks again for all your help!!


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    Brett, check these pics out....

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    When the rear storage trays are in, the ballast bag fills to the very bottom of the tray. So no lost space between top of bag and bottom of tray. There is obviously some room under the gunnel to the side of the tray, but when you see how deep these are in person, I don't think you will complain about lack of storage. As you can see in the one pic, there is plenty of room for the AO stow and go cooler. I think you can keep plenty of beers cold in there if you want. I don't know how much the tray will hold, but I did stand up in it and I am about 190lbs. Like I said before, it is really designed to hold life jackets and ropes, but if beer is more of a necessity, it will hold plenty of that.

    As a side note, you will notice in the picture there is a little ledge and we have mounted some eyelets on this one. This is the R&D boat. The eyelets are not on standard production, but we have toyed with the idea of straps across the ledge to hold lifejackets up or to play with dividers. Anyways, just playing around constantly trying to come up with new and better ideas...

    Hope that answers your questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goose View Post
    Brett, check these pics out....

    20170829_161925.jpg20170829_162155.jpg

    When the rear storage trays are in, the ballast bag fills to the very bottom of the tray. So no lost space between top of bag and bottom of tray. There is obviously some room under the gunnel to the side of the tray, but when you see how deep these are in person, I don't think you will complain about lack of storage. As you can see in the one pic, there is plenty of room for the AO stow and go cooler. I think you can keep plenty of beers cold in there if you want. I don't know how much the tray will hold, but I did stand up in it and I am about 190lbs. Like I said before, it is really designed to hold life jackets and ropes, but if beer is more of a necessity, it will hold plenty of that.

    As a side note, you will notice in the picture there is a little ledge and we have mounted some eyelets on this one. This is the R&D boat. The eyelets are not on standard production, but we have toyed with the idea of straps across the ledge to hold lifejackets up or to play with dividers. Anyways, just playing around constantly trying to come up with new and better ideas...

    Hope that answers your questions.
    Goose, your awesome man!! I promise I'll stop asking questions soon lol. My wife's biggest complaint in our Mondo is the extra ice chest on the floor. We keep the one under the seat but always need the bigger one as well. This would be awesome to keep the floor nice and clean.

    What's with the bow seat. Does that flip up for storage as well? I can't tell from the pics


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    Came across this wave pic on Insta....I'm liking this boat more and more. Ughhhhhh I'm in trouble, wife's gonna be pissed lol is it boat show season yet?


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