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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by yager97 View Post
    who cares if the wake is clean 18 and below?? if you are riding that slow you aren't clearing the wake, you are learning and could ride just as well behind a fishing boat so what does it matter??? its far more important to have a clean wake 22 and above at actual wakeboarding speeds. Thats what a wakeboard boat is designed for. If you want a training boat for children, I suggest a zodiac. That's what I learned on, worked absolutely fine.
    Yager, you're way out of line. As a father of a 7 year old who is working up the nerve to try wakeboarding for the first time, I can relate to lawdog. He is looking to downsize his boat so that his daughter can have a positive wakeboarding experience. I commend him for it. Judging from the insensitivity of your reply, I am sure you don't have any kids. If you do, I feel badly for them.
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    apologies I was typing fast without putting much thought into it. You're right, I have no kids. When I do have kids, I will be teaching them behind something small and less intimidating than a wakeboard boat. I came off like an ass, I apologize.
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  3. #63
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    allow me to soften my response. I should have edited it. As a child, I would have been terrified of a 21 foot boat with a roaring engine pulling me out of the water. no matter how much ballast you take out, and slow you go, the wake is going to be large enough that it will be terrifying for most children. When I was 7 years old and 60lbs , I was able to learn behind a zodiac dinghy with 15HP engine. This made the transition to a larger boat much easier as I got better, and got bigger. Don't feel sorry for my future kids Cab, they will be fine. And in no way do I consider myself a wakeboard phenom. I'm actually a humble and nice guy, check my history, but my post came off a little offside.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by yager97 View Post
    When I was 7 years old and 60lbs , I was able to learn behind a zodiac dinghy with 15HP engine. This made the transition to a larger boat much easier as I got better, and got bigger.
    Our kids learned behind SeaDoo PWC's. We didn't have a boat yet, and in hindsight was a great way to start the kids.
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  5. #65
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    That fantastic apology is accepted by everyone on here with kids. There's still hope for you yet!
    My Mom said I'm not allowed to get wet!
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    I have kids who will be learning behind my XLV very soon (they are 3 and 5). My 5 year old is already rocking the "Ski Trainer" and she surfs with me. I don't really see what difference going 14-18 will make behind say an OutbackV or an XLV, little kids aren't going to be "jumping the wake" to start, they are just going to get up and ride, so if you don't have a perfectly formed wake at 16mph, who cares. And all Vdrive boats (20ft or 23ft) are scary to a little kid with their loud, big motors. Lets be honest, at the start it's just intimidating for little kids to wakeboard until they get the confidence.

    And when my kids are ready to start jumping, I am going to have them on a very very short line so we can go really slow and I can actually talk to them from the back of the boat to help them. I can't wait for this day.

    Now for actual adult wakeboarding with Full Ballast, I have to agree with Yager97, 22 or so is where you should be riding. There is no reason to load up ballast for a big wake and then ride at 17 or 18. It's just not necessary, and if you have to ride that slow, you probably are still learning to jump and you are much better off learning on a smaller wake anways and a shorter rope. Watch old Wakeboard videos and see how big the guys go on those tiny wake and you can see that 2500lbs of ballast aren't necessary for beginners to be able to "get air". In fact a smaller wake teaches better form.
    Levi
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  7. #67
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    those are my 14 yr olds at 15mph above pics i usually ride around 21 if flat


    Here is my 10 yr old who just learned to wakeboard two days earlier, riding at 10 mph
    no wake all foam she loves it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaneboats View Post
    That fantastic apology is accepted by everyone on here with kids. There's still hope for you yet!
    AGREED! Nice job, Yager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnpracing View Post
    Our kids learned behind SeaDoo PWC's. We didn't have a boat yet, and in hindsight was a great way to start the kids.
    +1 . always teach the little ones with the pwc...

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