Yeah, I have a Senate on order right now - just waiting for it to ship. I bought it from waterskis.com but it was on back order. I don't have a local ski dealer so I have to buy all my stuff online. I talked to the ski rep at waterskis.com and he said it's by far their most popular intermediate ski they sell and he said they almost never see them come back in to be traded for something else. I found out about it by asking around at a few slalom ski schools. Each of the responses recommended the Radar Senate. I have an old HO VTC that I've skied on for years but thought it was time for an upgrade. I'm sure I'll still stack just as often but at least I won't be able to blame it on my equipment. Oh, what am I saying. Of course I will. Darn new ski...