2019 Makai Surf Setting suggestions

[TXSurf4]

interesting , i will measure mine tonight, they dont seem as deep, but maybe they are.

side note, do yours catch the vinyl/cover? i had to round off the sharp edge on mine because it was snagging the vinyl seam every time you opened it.


also, i thought the WM bag upgrades didnt add much to the top and more added to the front/under seat. the WM bags are listed as only 1345x2, stock 2022 is 4k total, and i dont see the front bag being more than 1310LB

The Makai bags are different from the new Mojo set up. The Mojo has an L shaped bag for lack of better terms where the makai has 2 bags for the port rear and 2 for the Starboard rear. It is the same concept as the Mojo but the bag under the seat is piggy backed off of the rear locker bag. So the WM Upgrade takes the rear locker 1,000# bag and replaces it with a 1,350# bag which is much taller and you still have a 400# bag under the floor beneath the bench seat. So when your flip the switch for the port or starboard side you are filling each with 1,750#. All that being said the new Mojo's set up with the L shaped bag is much more elegant and simple.

[TXSurf4]

The 2021 Makai storage bins are 11" deep. Plus or minus thickness of the plastic.

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Ya my '19 bins for the exact same measurement are 13.5" deep. Do you have the WM Upgrade?

[TXSurf4]

I bought wake makers and had the dealer install before I ever picked it up. I've got the unused stock bags sitting in my garage. I wonder if they changed the bins , or if I'm not getting all the way full.

My guess is that you are not getting all the way full. When my bags are full they are at most 3" under the edge of the fiberglass that the struts are mounted to. Does your screen show full? Meaning doe the 100 get a little red dot next to it?

[dyrmz134]

My guess is that you are not getting all the way full. When my bags are full they are at most 3" under the edge of the fiberglass that the struts are mounted to. Does your screen show full? Meaning doe the 100 get a little red dot next to it?

Yep , they are showing 100%. But would they if air was trapped?

[TXSurf4]

Yep , they are showing 100%. But would they if air was trapped?

Yes the % is based on time the pumps have been running vs the timer on that switch. So if you have the timer for your Port Fill at 8 minutes and it has run for 8 mins then it will show 100% regardless of the level of the bag. This is why getting your fill and times correct is important. That being said there is a little dot next to each % when the dot is RED it means that the sensor is seeing water and that the bag is actually full that is unless you have the upgraded bags and your sensor has not been relocated to a higher location. Unless thing have changed the sensor for each rear bags is located on a pipe that is mounted vertically behind the rear wall in each locker. The height of the sensor is located right at the top of the factory bag so when your bag is full there is a column of water in the tube at the same height and the sensor see it and shuts your pumps off and turn the little dot on your screen red. This is why I ask if your dealer relocated your sensors. If they didn't and just added 1.5 min, the the sensor will see water at the old full level and shut the pumps off and show 100% but upgraded bags wont be full. My guess is if you still have your rear bins then they are not filling all the way, the only real storage you can get out of the rear locker with the upgraded bags is by hanging a net in them to hold a life jacket or 2.

[HFarr]

Ya my '19 bins for the exact same measurement are 13.5" deep. Do you have the WM Upgrade?

I don't have WM upgrade. I do see FatSac written on one end of them. Not sure if that's who Moomba used that year or not. I didn't order the boat. I got lucky and came along just after someone that did order it had their deal fall through when it came in. My build sheet doesn't indicate anything special about a ballast upgrade.

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[HFarr]

I promise you that they are ballooning up with air if you don't bleed them. Just check next time.

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[dyrmz134]

Yes the % is based on time the pumps have been running vs the timer on that switch. So if you have the timer for your Port Fill at 8 minutes and it has run for 8 mins then it will show 100% regardless of the level of the bag. This is why getting your fill and times correct is important. That being said there is a little dot next to each % when the dot is RED it means that the sensor is seeing water and that the bag is actually full that is unless you have the upgraded bags and your sensor has not been relocated to a higher location. Unless thing have changed the sensor for each rear bags is located on a pipe that is mounted vertically behind the rear wall in each locker. The height of the sensor is located right at the top of the factory bag so when your bag is full there is a column of water in the tube at the same height and the sensor see it and shuts your pumps off and turn the little dot on your screen red. This is why I ask if your dealer relocated your sensors. If they didn't and just added 1.5 min, the the sensor will see water at the old full level and shut the pumps off and show 100% but upgraded bags wont be full. My guess is if you still have your rear bins then they are not filling all the way, the only real storage you can get out of the rear locker with the upgraded bags is by hanging a net in them to hold a life jacket or 2.

Ah-good info. I have seen the red dot, not sure if they relocated the sensors. Any idea how hard it is to relocate them? Is it just a slide it up thing or a full modification to the tube?

I promise you that they are ballooning up with air if you don't bleed them. Just check next time.

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Will do. Thanks!

[TXSurf4]

I don't have WM upgrade. I do see FatSac written on one end of them. Not sure if that's who Moomba used that year or not. I didn't order the boat. I got lucky and came along just after someone that did order it had their deal fall through when it came in. My build sheet doesn't indicate anything special about a ballast upgrade.

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FatSacs are the OEM 1,000# bags.

Ah-good info. I have seen the red dot, not sure if they relocated the sensors. Any idea how hard it is to relocate them? Is it just a slide it up thing or a full modification to the tube?

First thing I would do is get in there and remove the rear wall to see if they relocated the sensor or not. If they didn’t it is actually pretty easy just need some parts from Wakemakers. You just add 10”-12” between the tube and the hose that connects to the bag and then zip tie the sensor as high as possible in the corner of the boat. Toughest part is just working in the smaller space.


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[dyrmz134]

FatSacs are the OEM 1,000# bags.



First thing I would do is get in there and remove the rear wall to see if they relocated the sensor or not. If they didn’t it is actually pretty easy just need some parts from Wakemakers. You just add 10”-12” between the tube and the hose that connects to the bag and then zip tie the sensor as high as possible in the corner of the boat. Toughest part is just working in the smaller space.


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Thanks. I've got the 20 hour service coming up and I think it's reasonable to ask them to do this if they didn't.