Early predictions for 2022

[uniwarking]

I'm a dumb sales guy, all I know is that it works

Ha, I love this! And, that is what matters. It's kinda funny, lots of techy folks on the forums (myself included)... we're kind of a needy bunch.

[cwfehr]

I did some sound deadening on the 21 SL. Over the engine bay and transmission. I measured the db before and after and there was no difference. However, everyone in the family said it made a noticable difference. I think are too many variables on the water to vet an accurate comparison. Wind is a big one. Tried to use exact same settings in both measuremwnts, but the post measurement had a lot more wind...

21 Supra SL
19 Moomba Max

[mgswake]

On the MSRP changes, MJHSupra makes some good points...

Which post are you referring to? Thank you

Edit: possibly post #141? I had to go back a few pages

[RC_Hinojosa]

Which post are you referring to? Thank you

Edit: possibly post #141? I had to go back a few pages

Post 141 in this thread

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[larry_arizona]

Effectively, Moomba prices going high enough to expect dealers to give Supraesque discounts of 15-20%


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[WildH]

I did some sound deadening on the 21 SL. Over the engine bay and transmission. I measured the db before and after and there was no difference. However, everyone in the family said it made a noticable difference. I think are too many variables on the water to vet an accurate comparison. Wind is a big one. Tried to use exact same settings in both measuremwnts, but the post measurement had a lot more wind...

21 Supra SL
19 Moomba Max

Thanks for the post. Nice work on the application. I'm very curious what they are applying and where. Deadener would help a bit with resonance through panels and vibrations. It won't absorb sound though. You would need to encase it in mlv and closed cell foam. I enjoy the sound projects. ��.

[sandm]

Effectively, Moomba prices going high enough to expect dealers to give Supraesque discounts of 15-20%


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this actually aligns moomba closer to the rest of the competition. most are giving much larger discounts than moomba but have a MUCH higher starting price. we found this to be true last year when shopping moomba/supreme/mb/atx. in the end they were all within 5k when optioned similarly. this was our experience. moomba had the smallest of the "discounts" but were also the lowest starting price.

[larry_arizona]

The only problem I see with this discount model is some dealers will get greedy and apply the old 6-9% or even less during this high demand.

All for capitalism and it will self adjust eventually.

It’s a mental game really, would you feel you got a better “deal” on the same boat if…..

1) $25k off a 120k MSRP
2) $10k off a 105k MSRP

I think most would say 1.


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[brad460]

The only problem I see with this discount model is some dealers will get greedy and apply the old 6-9% or even less during this high demand.

All for capitalism and it will self adjust eventually.

It’s a mental game really, would you feel you got a better “deal” on the same boat if…..

1) $25k off a 120k MSRP
2) $10k off a 105k MSRP

I think most would say 1.


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Yes, but (I think) anyone buying a wakeboard boat is smart enough to not get wrapped up in a mental game. Most should very well understand the pricing of most brand boats and the game played. If you are at a point in your life where you can afford a $80k+ boat you shouldn’t be swayed by emotion..

I think one advantage Moomba had is that when you priced out a boat online you were relatively close to what you’d be paying...not as much dealer funny business. Plus Moomba was always less expensive compared to comparable boat brands. This was their competitive advantage...If I were running the Heyday business I would see this as a huge opportunity to scoop up a lot of boat buyers with a fairly priced boat.

Now a Max is close to $90k out the door and it doesn’t even have hinged seats...

[larry_arizona]

Now a Max is close to $90k out the door and it doesn’t even have hinged seats...

Keep in mind, 2018 Supras had like one hinged seat and a 2021 SL didn’t have hinged bow cushions.

But consider this from moombas perspective, if all your competitors raised their MSRP and they are still the lowest MSRP, that can make you look like a lesser quality boat.


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