Tow Vehicle

[Prospersigman]

I've had them both and the new Duramax is winning!!

You should go drive one and then hook your boat up to it and you'll see what I'm talking about.

I love my '17 250 and it's been my dd since Day 1. PSD is a hoss.



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[larry_arizona]

I believe the 2022 superduty got an interior refresh getting a lot the new F150 features, big screen etc.

Ram and Ford interior crushes the GM interior and GM is rapidly redoing the interior already, looks like 2023 for GM to catch up


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[Josh828]

Ive always been a "GM guy" however not brand loyal. My brother in law does have a 2020 chevy high country 2500HD I can tug the boat around in some time, we have a 2021 F550 and its been amazing the short time we have had it probably shouldn't compare 250 to a 550 though haha
No experience with the cummins though, did sit in one and it was nice however I wouldn't call it "better"

The short time I've been shopping the way I see it

Ford- 475hp-1000lbtq- 10 speed. EVERY OPTION (in a platinum) $79K

GMC/Chevy- 445hp-910lbtq- 10 speed (Fords right?) No adaptive cruise control or massaging seats. And I Love adaptive cruise. Denali price is like $83K

Ram- 410hp- 1000lbtq- 6 speed (ancient tech) No massaging seats. I have no idea about the trim levels but the limited is also right at $80K

Correct me if im wrong or missing the big picture on anything I haven't shopped big trucks in a long time

[Holdmybeer]

Ive always been a "GM guy" however not brand loyal. My brother in law does have a 2020 chevy high country 2500HD I can tug the boat around in some time, we have a 2021 F550 and its been amazing the short time we have had it probably shouldn't compare 250 to a 550 though haha
No experience with the cummins though, did sit in one and it was nice however I wouldn't call it "better"

The short time I've been shopping the way I see it

Ford- 475hp-1000lbtq- 10 speed. EVERY OPTION (in a platinum) $79K

GMC/Chevy- 445hp-910lbtq- 10 speed (Fords right?) No adaptive cruise control or massaging seats. And I Love adaptive cruise. Denali price is like $83K

Ram- 410hp- 1000lbtq- 6 speed (ancient tech) No massaging seats. I have no idea about the trim levels but the limited is also right at $80K

Correct me if im wrong or missing the big picture on anything I haven't shopped big trucks in a long time

You are right there!.
The 6-sp from Dodge is not really old tech but it could use a few more gears to make it as smooth as the 10sp Allison (GM) or Ford. The Aisin is bulletproof and holds up in pulling competitions in stock form.
I have been a "GM Guy" myself for years by default. It just worked out they way when shopping and looking for deals. I like the Fords, but around me you won't get a Platinum for that price. The dealers have limited supplies and are adding $5k or more in fees. $79K is a Lariat with FX4 package.

What I like about the Ford and GM is that to get the "heavy duty" options and towing you can still be in a 3/4-ton truck and not a 1-ton but the Ram factory Air-ride is a nice touch.

[larry_arizona]

The GM heavy duty 10 speed is not related to the light duty 10 speed that Ford shares with GM.

The HD 10 speed is branded as an Allison, but it’s not made by Allison, it is made in house at GM with design coming from Allison.

I would avoid the Ram air suspension like the plague. Extremely problematic.


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[Holdmybeer]

The GM heavy duty 10 speed is not related to the light duty 10 speed that Ford shares with GM.

The HD 10 speed is branded as an Allison, but it’s not made by Allison, it is made in house at GM with design coming from Allison.

I would avoid the Ram air suspension like the plague. Extremely problematic.


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Good to know about the air-ride.
I have test driven them and the air suspension make the HD truck ride so much better. Just something nice to have over bulky leaf springs.
But there is alway a Kelderman upgrade.....spending other people's money is fun

[Josh828]

Good note on the air suspension if I even went ram I thought that would be nice.
Also with the ram you can't get the Aisin until you step up into a 3500 correct?

The GM still has the same 8" screen practically my 18 Denali had where as the 2022 ford gets a new 12" screen and the ram has that practically Tesla screen option so

I have a very good relation with my ford dealership thankfully so no absurd fees, hopefully there wil also be some incentives by the time the truck does arrive
Can also probably get a family discount from a gm so that could be several thousand off.

[RC_Hinojosa]

Good to know about the air-ride.
I have test driven them and the air suspension make the HD truck ride so much better. Just something nice to have over bulky leaf springs.
But there is alway a Kelderman upgrade.....spending other people's money is fun

Kelderman air suspension....NOW we're talking about spending other people's money, lol.

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[Holdmybeer]

Correct, Ram 3500 to get the Aisin. Sounds like skip the air-ride and go aftermarket for long term. I have daily driven a 3500 dually for several years, so anything softer than that would be an upgrade for me.

If you have favors you can pull try them all out and see what you like best. Local Ford dealer to me even has a trailer with 8K on it so you can simulate pulling on your test drive. Something you might want to ask about.

[rhouse181]

Anyone have a Dodge Durango SRT? Contemplating trading in my Tahoe...

8700 tow capacity on a 6 person people mover that runs 0-60 in 4.6 sec. Figure the clock is ticking on large displacement V8 composted dinosaur burners, so might as well enjoy while it lasts...