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  1. #51
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    Kent can you jump on plane with full ballast and 6-8 people in the boat?
    2020 Supra SA

  2. #52
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    Had 4 people in boat, 575# lead, 100% bow, 60/60% rear pulling a wakeboarder at 22 on plane, no problem.


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    2018 Supra SA 400 (SOLD)
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  3. #53
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    "cup" also adds surface area to the blade. Makes it a bit longer so to speak.

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    2021 Moomba Makai
    Black Cherry Metal Flake & Fire Red
    Nibral OJ 15.5x15 Altitude/Wake prop w/1.76 trans v-drive
    Wet Sounds bow speakers & 10's on the Tower & ported sub

  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDD123 View Post
    Running at 10.8-11 mph I am only pushing about 3150-3200 rpm with the ACME 3591 (16x13.9), I haven't used another prop but based on what I've seen this is great. I pushed to 11.5 or so last time I was out and it was maybe up around 3400 or so.
    How much ballast/passengers are you carry for those numbers?
    2021 Mojo, 6.2L Raptor 400/1.76, Acme 3407 15.5x13, G6, Flow3, +6500 lbs ballast
    2005 Mobius LSV (sold)
    Windermere Lake, B.C., 2800' Elevation
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  5. #55
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    I get similar RPM’s 100/100/100, 575# lead full fuel and 2 crew, 1 rider in an SA


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    2018 Supra SA 400 (SOLD)
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by larry_arizona View Post
    I get similar RPM’s 100/100/100, 575# lead full fuel and 2 crew, 1 rider in an SA


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    So all in you are around 10k on the water getting 3200 rpm....I would say perfect
    2015 Moomba Mojo Surf Edition
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by HFarr View Post
    "cup" also adds surface area to the blade. Makes it a bit longer so to speak.

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    Are you sure about that? The way Eric at OJ explained it to me is that more cup actually makes the blade react as if it were shorter while keeping the same surface area. Like a dog ear standing straight up or folded over. I asked about a new prop they had with more cup (950 and 951) and he said it was meant for a boat that was having some clearance issues.
    2018 Supra SA400 aka The Ron Burgandy
    2011 Sea-Doo Wake 155
    2015 Mojo Surf, sold...2013 Axis A22 Recon Edition, sold...2010 Axis A22, sold...2007 Maxum 1800sr3, sold

  8. #58
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    I may be wrong about it. Not a prop designer, but if the diameter measurements are the same and it has a cup in it, it will have to have more surface area. Now if the start with a flat surface and and add cup and slightly let the O.D. shrink, then no.

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  9. #59
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    My understanding is cupping reduces the diameter a smidge and is a secondary tuning feature to further optimize pitch.




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  10. #60
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    Some really good info in this thread. I knew nothing about boats, let alone props before purchasing my 2021 SA 450... I just looked and I'm running a 16 x 17 prop, which is what my dealer must have spec'ed for me. We only wakesurf, and with a lot of weight on the boat, we have struggled to get the boat to maintain autowake desired speed (say anything above 10.5mph), particularly on heavy current/wind days. I'm thinking now I should swap out my prop to a 16 x 13.9 given our use case.

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