05 v ride loaded up is narrower that my boat but super nice. 09 vlx load right up is huge. Also the 08 super air natique, super lippy but big. The Malibus I found were very nice shape as well as my lsv. With all of my ballast, 2 x 750, 400lbs locker, and 650 bow and 7 -8 aduts my wake with the plate all the way is really lippy. Way to lippy for a beginner of someone who is learning to go wake to wake. Pops you straight up. If you put the plate 1/2 way down it becomes much more forgiving