Moomba Flow The new Wake Enhancement Device

[uniwarking]

Yup, the price tag is hard to swallow... certainly understand. Markup for parts, crazy install cost. I really wanted to put this on my boat but I'm not thinking it will happen this year. I'll spend my $1750 somewhere else.

[zabooda]

It would not be hard to duplicate or make something similar. You won't find anything similar as I am sure SC has a patent on the design.

[bergermaister]

Perhaps, but I'm sure you would all be completely shocked at the investment required for the engineering and overhead to go from concept to prototype to finished product. Once again, Kudos to SC for coming up with a simple, effective design that has everybody talking.

[mmandley]

I have to slightly justify the price to myself...

Design work = Cad, Testing, actual water testing, Patent Costs.
Tooling to make the parts
Assembly to make it functional
First Year Production Costs
and then the fact its connected to a BOAT

OK I can justify spending 1-1,300 now.

Seriously there is a lot of costs involved in production of something new. I have spent a lot of time talking to Brian and all the costs that go into Speakers, amps, ZLDs, tooling, shipping, frieght, licensing, patents, and all that.

Its not as simple as drawing a picture, go to your CNC machine in the shop and making the part.

I know they had the Swell in design and testing back in 2012 and it just now came out to the public, I wouldn't be surprised to hear the Flow was in design just as long.

[brad460]

Perhaps, but I'm sure you would all be completely shocked at the investment required for the engineering and overhead to go from concept to prototype to finished product. Once again, Kudos to SC for coming up with a simple, effective design that has everybody talking.

I've been involved in new product development my whole career...

For a complex design I would agree with you 100%..but this is far from a complex design..rather simple...and they don't need to recover all their development costs in one year..pricing is egregious..just my opinion. It should be priced no higher than $500 with simple installation instructions.

[uniwarking]

Perhaps, but I'm sure you would all be completely shocked at the investment required for the engineering and overhead to go from concept to prototype to finished product. Once again, Kudos to SC for coming up with a simple, effective design that has everybody talking.

This is quite true. I work in industry so I deal with these things on a continual basis. R&D has to be recouped in piece price or it's not worthwhile.

At the same time, I would have to assume the R&D for this specific solution is far less than the other systems out there.

There also seems to be a huge range in part cost and installation cost which would indicate there is a fair amount of margin to work with on the dealer side.

If I had unlimited funds, there is no doubt I'd have the Flow installed now. I'm excited to hear some "real world" experiences!


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[rbeckner27]

If anyone is interested I might be able to take my mounting plate to work and have them scan the part with our laser scanning CMM to create a 3D model of it for someone looking to make the part themselves.

[parrothd]

I'll take it! Thought about buying one and making it fit my 02 lsv...

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[rbeckner27]

I've been involved in new product development my whole career...

For a complex design I would agree with you 100%..but this is far from a complex design..rather simple...and they don't need to recover all their development costs in one year..pricing is egregious..just my opinion. It should be priced no higher than $500 with simple installation instructions.

I agree 100%

[saskyrider]

Geez.... not picking on you guys but here are my thoughts.....

We have all these companies that have brought out wakesurf enhancement devices in the last few years... they all are fancy higher end devices that cost a heck of a lot more than the flow does and have more potential for failure (ie: electrical etc). So what does moomba do?? they come out with a simplistic design to offer to their boating customers that has everything you need and nothing more at a real cost effective price and were grinding them on it? I was so pumped that SC came out with the flow and I for one love its simplicity. I laugh at my buddy that bought a 2013 Malibu VLX and cant have the surfgate retro'd onto it.... not only did moomba take care of their new customers they are going to take care of their previous customers as well....

my 2C

geoff