Quote Originally Posted by SONIC View Post
That's the 2nd or 3rd time I've seen 14% increase from 21-22 so seems to be the truth at this point unfortunately.


Just for fun a 100K boat with a 14% increase year over year will be a 370k boat in 10 years
I see someone beat me to the Paragon comment!

Yeah it’s nuts! For a total discretionary and luxury item, there has to a point where the middle class and upper middle won’t bite on these prices. As a finance professional, long term financing has added to this price increase and demand by making boats ‘affordable’ on monthly payment schedules.

This year the materials are higher and I’m not surprised to see 14%. Many options being quoted to me are in line with 21 pricing with little to no change so it does seem to be mostly the base price.

In terms of things being standard/included vs optional....the only one I was able to confirm on the Kaiyen was the GPS zero cruise is included in base price. Mapping is an upgrade.

What do most people negotiate off list price for Moomba? 5-7%? Does that include dealer delivery fees?