XLV Ghetto Gate

[spyder]

here's a shot of a friend out behind the boat with me driving, we lost almost all the curl at the front of the wave, sever loss of push.. any recommendations?

im also thinking the 06 stock platform on the LSV is digging into the wave as well.. would like to make a custom platform in the off season.

[trayson]

Are you putting anything between the gate and the hull to keep it from getting damaged?
Looks great!

Like what? A piece of plastic? It's made out of plastic and there are no screw heads on the hull side.

I am using a pool noodle from the dollar store.

This is before I cut it down to size to more match the dimensions of the 2014 Axis surfgates...


Here's what it looks like now and I've got the noodle in my hands.


Here's my "before" wave on the day that I tested it with my normal setup (playpen 1180 gravity bag full, surfside 1100 full, non-surfside 1100 half full, and 400 under surfside seat full. a pair of over 200 pound adults on the surfside. 10mph. typically it's wakeplate 1/4 of the way down.



With the gate added to this setup, the wave felt shallower and was longer with more hook out to the surfside. It really felt more 'skim' than surf optimized.
Honestly for all the extra space it takes up and for the hassle of putting it on and off, it wasn't enough of a breathtaking wave difference to justify the hassle.




The afternoon wasn't all that smooth, but it was an apples to apples comparison. we were able to decrease the speed of the boat with the gate, but again, with all the ballast variability I have with 5 different bags I can fill, I much prefer the experience of the listed boat without the extra hassle, fuel consumption, and strain on my engine that the gate makes.


Also, I did test my gate and it's "neutrally buoyant". Like a wakeboard when it's attached to your feet. it floats, but just enough to not sink. it don't float on TOP of the water like an EPS Foam surfboard.

[trayson]

Compare the above to just changing my setup with people weight:

1. Wife driving = subtract 100 pounds from above pictures driver weight
2. Added 300 - 350 pounds by adding 2 more people to the boat.

And now look at the weight with no gate:

[moombadaze]

Trayson, is your blade sticking out or going straight back

[trayson]

Trayson, is your blade sticking out or going straight back

I modeled mine after the Malibu and Axis surfgates, so they have that 22.5 degree angle. I thought about making them with an adjustable angle, but whipped out the project in one evening.

[moombadaze]

from what I have gathered the straight back style works better for the Moomba's--you might want to mod your mod a little and see what the results are

[trayson]

from what I have gathered the straight back style works better for the Moomba's--you might want to mod your mod a little and see what the results are

I might if I get motivated. But there's a HUGE mod list that's getting priority. so it's way down on the list. I'm excited to start my homemade FAE next!

[Derrick]

Has anyone been able to evenly weight the boat with a ghetto gate and have a clean wake? We still have to weight ours pretty heavily to the surf side to get it clean. We are trying to figure out how the malibu we were in was evenly weighted and had a perfect wave on both sides and we can't come close to this with the gate.

[jmvotto]

Trayson, I tried three different angles on the xlv and and they all lose push . Straight back extension works the best.

Derrick, I have not been able to weight the xlv evenly, but with the gate it is definitely more towards level. I need about 500 lbs in the opposite locker offsetting roughly 1200 lbs. without the gate I add zero weight in opposite locker.

[MJHSupra]

Trayson, I tried three different angles on the xlv and and they all lose push . Straight back extension works the best.
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Do you think that would be the same for a 2007 Supra SSV22' - straight back extension?

M