Thanks Mike, I did see your earlier thread and you did mentioned going thicker, I will try to find 3/4 or 1 inch thick board, sivs1 I am pretty much same set up, 08 LSV, with 650 nose 400 centre 1100 reg, and 750 goofy side, looks like I will have more than enough weight when I build a gate......I will watch for your Ghetto gate pics and the wave you are getting...Thanks again to both for your comments and imput.. Moomba family so helpfull and helping to save $$$$$