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11-11-2013, 08:03 PM #21
First thing is yes you can run the 2 400s under your nose. Filling is the easy part, its draining that's much more difficult.
Filling you can simply run a hose between them but when draining you need a suction source on each bag. You will need to devise a Y to drain on both bags. When i tried to use a pair of 450s in the nose of my Mojo this is the exact problem i ran into. Yes still run the 400 in the ski locker.
As for the OP.
I had a 08 LSV with a huge surf waves on both sides of the boat, very clean lots of power. The LSV on Regular is very easy to make a big clean wave, the goofy how ever is a much different animal.
I ran 1100, in the rear, the factory 400 in the locker and a 650 IBS in the nose on the stock ballast system for 3 years. The largest of the system was only 1 summer.
You will want to fill your ski locker bag right after you launch and it can be left full pretty much all the time. You how ever will not want to run the IBS full unless you are going to wake board and you don't want anyone riding in the bow because it will ride very low with no rear weight.
We did this when people wanted to wake board and i didn't want to fuss with leveling the boat side to side, and trying to get the wave clean. Ski locker and IBS wake plat 100% 23mph and it was a beefy clean wake that only takes about 10 minutes to fill.
When i went to reversible, i only did it on the rear bags, this makes plumbing simple, allows you to remove the restrictive ballast tree and use the main pump as a dedicated ski/IBS pump. I also mounted to the rear plastic panel above the muffler. Lots of room for plumbing and easy to get to if i burned an impeller.
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11-22-2013, 09:55 PM #22Senior Member
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I found a good deal on 4 Johnson ballast pumps that were bought new but never installed. I picked those up. I'll be picking up 1100# bags and the IBS in the spring. He wanted to sell all 4 together, so I decided I'd set up a x-link system with the 4th unless there is a compelling argument to do something different with it.
We took the boat out one last time (11/10), I took a wakeboard run and I was totally disappointed with the hole shot. I looked and it's the stock prop, so that will definitely be changing as soon as I find a good deal.
Which now means I'm going whole hog. You guys suck!2007 Mobius LSV
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11-23-2013, 12:40 AM #23Senior Member
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Re: Upcoming upgrades - ballast questions
Do you ever switch sides? I was going to do an x-link setup but used that pump for my surf side under seat bag.. I rarely switch sides and when I do it only take 7-10 minutes for my 750...
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11-23-2013, 02:49 AM #24Senior Member
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Yeah, goofy friends. I'm pretty rookie on the surfboard but I try really hard on the wake board to ride both regular and goofy. I imagine that I would like to do the same for surfing, or at least toeside/heelside. We'll see.
Another option is to use the x-link to simultaneously fill the first locker - i.e. run both right and left pumps and the x-link pump to the right which would fill the right side twice as fast. I'd probably end up limited by the fill time of the ski locker/IBS combo.
I did consider plumbing the 4th in as a "utility" pump with a connection to manually connect hoses to for extra sacs around the cabin.2007 Mobius LSV
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11-23-2013, 06:46 AM #25Hey, Its Moomba time
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11-23-2013, 11:41 PM #26Senior Member
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Re: Upcoming upgrades - ballast questions
Make sure the bags you get have extra ports on the top or you can install your own if doing a cross pump setup.. I spent a lot of wasted time trying to figure out the perfect setup, I only have goofies every once in a while so I use my 4th pump for under the seat, we still use a extra bag and tsunami pump to fill that, may plan was to have a line from the under seat bag to a hose to fill extra bags.. It's in the to do list.. you can't go wrong with any setup..
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11-24-2013, 06:36 PM #27
I run reversibles including one for a cross-link, but when running a bunch of reversibles you really need to look at your electrical system. I put in an additional DC distribution panel with removable fuses and mounted it in an area that is easy to get to. I did this after my first weekend out with my reversibles wired to a factory disto block and blew a fuse that I could not find. The new Blue Seas distribution panel has it's own power supply cables and ground back to the batteries and is on it's own circuit breaker near the batteries. I can now run all five reversibles at the same time.
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11-25-2013, 10:04 AM #28Senior Member
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Yeah, my plan was to put in a little panel like this: http://www.bluesea.com/products/5025
I'm thinking of putting it in the engine compartment and running cables off the starter solenoid. Then using relays on the pumps so that I only have to run a low current control signal from the switch up front to the solenoids and keep all of the large wires to a minimum.2007 Mobius LSV
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11-25-2013, 11:05 AM #29
That is the one that I used, or real close to it. Just make sure it is mounted somewhere you can easily get to and carry extra fuses.
Remember, it wont be in the comfort of your driveway when one of them pops. I haven't had one problem yet running all five pumps at the same time, though I usually only run three at a time max.Sent by the random thoughts from the voices in my head...
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11-25-2013, 11:37 AM #30
it requires 2 relays per pump to revers its polarity. This is too complicated considering that a standard Carling DPDT rocker will do this for you and carry the load. The pump only requires 12ga wire and has a continuous current draw of about 15A. I suggest passing on the relays, locate the pump's fuse block under the helm and feed it with with ample cabling from the battery.