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    Not encouraging........

    https://lakepowellchronicle.com/arti...-powell-doomed


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    Thank you for sharing and sorry to hear. Please keep an eye on us as your experience is invaluable. Hell just move to Texas with everyone else. Lol no not really jk

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    Quote Originally Posted by larry_arizona View Post
    Not encouraging........

    https://lakepowellchronicle.com/arti...-powell-doomed


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    Not at all. We switched houseboats this year from Bullfrog to Halls which is fortunate since Halls has the deepest launch in the lake, but all marinas could be forced to close before the end of the year without a lot of new inflow. That is a loss of 5,000,000 boater days if that lake becomes inaccessible. The rest of the lakes in Utah are also in sorry shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surf Wagon View Post
    Thank you for sharing and sorry to hear. Please keep an eye on us as your experience is invaluable. Hell just move to Texas with everyone else. Lol no not really jk

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    We will be in a water bind if they do that! Too many people all sucking from the same lakes out there in the desert.
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    Too much population growth pulling water from Powell, so what happens when Powell and Mead run out of water?

    Forget about boating....If outflow is greater than inflow.... in a desert........you are F$&ked.


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    Sounds like you are doing what is best for you and although getting out is never fun at least you have a great opportunity to get out!

    And yeah I realize the boating is an issue however if water levels are low doesn't that mean outflow is greater which means its not sustainable.
    Shouldn't they be more worried about the lake being low for idk... survival hahaha
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    they are planning on publishing a plan in august to start to take care of mead/powell. farmers in arizona have given up some water rights and know they are going to lose water likely late this year and next year but getting mead/powell fixed is a MUCH longer term prospect. they won't go dry in my lifetime and they will do what they need to keep them sustainable but recreation is not the first priority and shouldn't be-not even sure it's on the radar. water for use and power generation are the focus.

    they need to (1) tax the $hit out of water to discourage new pools in ca/az/nv (2) push solar on homes hard but NV Energy wants nothing to do with that (3) swipe water rights where not needed but lawyers won't ever let that happen. feds will band aid it for years to come but the pain will be boating and ease of access.
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    Quote Originally Posted by larry_arizona View Post
    Too much population growth pulling water from Powell, so what happens when Powell and Mead run out of water?

    Forget about boating....If outflow is greater than inflow.... in a desert........you are F$&ked.


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    This is less about people than it is about agriculture. 80% of the water from Powell and Mead is managed to support agricultural use in Arizona, California, and Mexico, though the definition of agriculture also includes watering yards. The current drought period is now over 20 years long. The Bureau of Reclamation insists that Powell and Mead are doing their job, which is ensuring stable agricultural water supplies through a drought. It does make things problematic for boaters though. There is currently a big negotiation going on between the Colorado River Users to identify total available supply and redistribute the water. It will be a 20 year legal battle. The governing documents regarding management of the lakes do consider recreation, but they are priority 15, after agriculture, culinary, cultural, wildlife, geology, international agreements, etc. The fact that there are billions of dollars of boats and recreation associated with the lakes doesn't really concern the Bureau.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zog View Post
    This is less about people than it is about agriculture. 80% of the water from Powell and Mead is managed to support agricultural use in Arizona, California, and Mexico, though the definition of agriculture also includes watering yards. The current drought period is now over 20 years long. The Bureau of Reclamation insists that Powell and Mead are doing their job, which is ensuring stable agricultural water supplies through a drought. It does make things problematic for boaters though. There is currently a big negotiation going on between the Colorado River Users to identify total available supply and redistribute the water. It will be a 20 year legal battle. The governing documents regarding management of the lakes do consider recreation, but they are priority 15, after agriculture, culinary, cultural, wildlife, geology, international agreements, etc. The fact that there are billions of dollars of boats and recreation associated with the lakes doesn't really concern the Bureau.
    Step 1, cut off water to foreign countries.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by larry_arizona View Post
    Step 1, cut off water to foreign countries.......


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    the gov't signed a deal with mexico to store part of a lake in mead. they own part of the total water. sure there are a lot of political reasons to do what they did and people much smarter than me making those decisions. or at least I tell myself they are smarter
    zog is right in that agriculture is a big chunk but just as much is power generation and don't forget about nevada. 90% of our local vegas water comes from mead. in a town that is currently growing again by almost 1000 people a month.
    recreation is simply a byproduct and they don't give 2-shits about that industry. treehuggers would like to see all of it shut down and lakes become nonmotorized.
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