Flow 3.0 - Is it good?

[dakota4ce]

I’m with you, a baby suckgate would simulate the same “crab” effect of the 3.0 wing with the 2.0 tab deployed. I’m not putting my time and energy into it making a 2.0 to 3.0 conversion, I just saw working out the mechanics of it without an additional actuator as a fun challenge to discuss.

Heck you could add the additional actuator and just put it on manual switches. Same same.

Adding a suck gate would actually make it less convenient than offsetting ballast to clean the wave up.

[z28ke]

Heck you could add the additional actuator and just put it on manual switches. Same same.

Adding a suck gate would actually make it less convenient than offsetting ballast to clean the wave up.

Absolutely, I just started thinking about how do you mechanically (without an actuator) make something deploy downward, while it is attached to something that is also deploying downward? Obviously the engineers at SC decided an electric actuator is best, but I was stumped at the challenge of trying to figure out an alternative. A reverse lever is what I came up with. Just nerding out here trying to solve a hypothetical problem since I found it interesting lol.

[Tommy2slow]

I’m with you, a baby suckgate would simulate the same “crab” effect of the 3.0 wing with the 2.0 tab deployed. I’m not putting my time and energy into it making a 2.0 to 3.0 conversion, I just saw working out the mechanics of it without an additional actuator as a fun challenge to discuss.

Sorry bud, I wasnÂ’t directing my question at anyone in particular. I was just wondering after reading the thread why nobody was using a suckgate of some kind to create the delayed convergence that Is the intended effect of the 3.0 to see how well it works. For sure, the convenience of having it only the push of a button away is attractive but I would want to see the effects of the gate on the wave first if I could. I already weight my boat evenly so a quick change to one side or the other for a suckgate wouldnÂ’t be a huge hassle. As far as even weight goes and using delayed convergence, I would be willing to bet that Nauti and Malibu owners still list their boats to clean up their wave.

Your ideas on adding a linkage that lowers the hinged corner as the surf tabs are lowered is bordering on genius though. If you actually figure it out IÂ’ll be the first to place an order.

Cheers

[dakota4ce]

Sorry bud, I wasnÂ’t directing my question at anyone in particular. I was just wondering after reading the thread why nobody was using a suckgate of some kind to create the delayed convergence that Is the intended effect of the 3.0 to see how well it works. For sure, the convenience of having it only the push of a button away is attractive but I would want to see the effects of the gate on the wave first if I could. I already weight my boat evenly so a quick change to one side or the other for a suckgate wouldnÂ’t be a huge hassle. As far as even weight goes and using delayed convergence, I would be willing to bet that Nauti and Malibu owners still list their boats to clean up their wave.

Your ideas on adding a linkage that lowers the hinged corner as the surf tabs are lowered is bordering on genius though. If you actually figure it out IÂ’ll be the first to place an order.

Cheers

Yaw. It makes yaw. We are looking for yaw.

Delayed convergence is a somewhat mythical concept written in a brilliant Malibu Patent.


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[parrothd]

Make a mini suckgate and stick on the side of the boat.

[Shoebox]

Yaw. It makes yaw. We are looking for yaw.

Delayed convergence is a somewhat mythical concept written in a brilliant Malibu Patent.


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Delayed convergence is what all surf gates, tabs, shapers, and listing do, in different ways. It's all the same result. A wave.

[Shoebox]

Tige 23V.
It is a short lever arm, but no issue with the actuators.
30 degrees up 14 degrees down.

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Lots of testing with placement to get it right.

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i agree Swell3 is very good, but I'd put money on GSA style being better. No way to know but to try though

Do you have a pic of it extended? I have a hard time believing you got any kind of travel with a 2.25" throw actuator. I built a similar system, and short throw wouldn't work.

[dakota4ce]

Delayed convergence is what all surf gates, tabs, shapers, and listing do, in different ways. It's all the same result. A wave.

What? Never heard of it.

Just kidding. I know this.

The small plate on 3.0 adds a yaw moment. That’s what I was clarifying.

My comment about it being mythical is because their patent uses that term, but applies to everything. It really is a brilliant patent but is far too broad. But it’s too late for that critique, though.

I am going to patent accelerated convergence and sue them.


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[dakota4ce]

Do you have a pic of it extended? I have a hard time believing you got any kind of travel with a 2.25" throw actuator. I built a similar system, and short throw wouldn't work.

He would really only need 5-7 degrees below the boat bottom—thats where all mine were best. Of course considering errors in measurement. Measuring that angle is different every time it seems.

This pic looks like you have a lot of down travel.

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[SONIC]

Do you have a pic of it extended? I have a hard time believing you got any kind of travel with a 2.25" throw actuator. I built a similar system, and short throw wouldn't work.

I'll see what I can find.
I had 30 degrees up and 14 degrees down.