Flow 3.0 - Is it good?

[SONIC]

You’re right, it’s all geometry. So you’re going to change the mounting point of the GSA tab to be much closer to the hinge. Like, borderline right next to the hinge. At that point it’s not a GSA tab, it’s a home made tab that is like GSA. That’s a bit different than what we were talking about. Which was converting a SC boat to GSA tabs. You’re starting from scratch with one off stuff out of your shop.

I personally would be very concerned about auto leveling—deploying that giant tab into the water stream at 25mph. That’s a shit ton of force on the mounting screws.

I say get to getting! It would be neat to see.

Show us what you did before?


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If you reread my post that got you all hot and bothered you'll see I said GSA Style tab Hence why I said you used stock parts.

On my tige I used them for launch mode and I did use them to level on occasion but I agree its a lot of force on the screws at that point. That being said they didn't fail.

[dakota4ce]

I would suspect your mounting brackets might have to have to look a little something like the Swell 3.0 brackets look which move the top mount of the actuator out and away from the boat—in order to get the range of movement you need.

Anyway, good luck!


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[SONIC]

I would suspect your mounting brackets might have to have to look a little something like the Swell 3.0 brackets look which move the top mount of the actuator out and away from the boat—in order to get the range of movement you need.

Anyway, good luck!


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I agree, I really like the approach SC took there, it's really clever and is much better for the actuators long term IMO.
I would likely clone the Swell bracketry and replace the swell tab with the GSA style tab and then figure out the actuator throw for placement of the attachment point to the tab.

Just depends on how bored I get this winter!

[dakota4ce]

If you reread my post that got you all hot and bothered you'll see I said GSA Style tab Hence why I said you used stock parts.

On my tige I used them for launch mode and I did use them to level on occasion but I agree its a lot of force on the screws at that point. That being said they didn't fail.

Yeah I guess you got me really good there with the word “style.” To me the spirit of the conversation is really about being able to put GSA tabs on a swell or flow boat. That for me really is the only practical way to discuss this, because I do not have a fabrication shop or the time to spend figuring it all out. Nor does most everyone else—except of course you. Remaking the entire system to be one-off custom opens up the realm of what’s possible without a doubt. But nobody besides you will be able to get it done. I am a stock parts guy. Mostly anyway.

Good luck! For the rest of us, GSA tabs on a Skier’s choice boat are pretty much a pipe dream.


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[jnr4817]

You permanently bend both tabs to match the flow 3.0. When not in surf mode how much actual drag will be placed on the tabs? If there is a small amount of stage placed on the tabs will it be much and eventually wear out the connection to the boat. I’d try a none permanent solution.

[z28ke]

Y’all got me thinking about the possibility of converting 2.0 to 3.0, seems like a reverse lever system could work....

Thinking out loud here: One end mounted to the transom, fixed pivot point mounted to the regular tab, other end mounted on the “flap” at the end of the tab. As the regular tab goes down and away from the transom, it would extend the flap. The amount of “throw” achieved could be altered by using different length arms between the moving pivots and the fixed pivot.

[jnr4817]

Y’all got me thinking about the possibility of converting 2.0 to 3.0, seems like a reverse lever system could work....

Thinking out loud here: One end mounted to the transom, fixed pivot point mounted to the regular tab, other end mounted on the “flap” at the end of the tab. As the regular tab goes down and away from the transom, it would extend the flap. The amount of “throw” achieved could be altered by using different length arms between the moving pivots and the fixed pivot.

I'd be willing to try, as long as its not permanent.

[Tommy2slow]

Am I missing something here? If delayed convergence is what you’re after why not try a hillbilly homemade suckgate out and see if it improves your wave. If Flow 3.0 is such a game changer ( I’m not so sure it is) someone will do the R&D for you and then just buy the product with all the bugs already worked out..just sayin

[z28ke]

Am I missing something here? If delayed convergence is what you’re after why not try a hillbilly homemade suckgate out and see if it improves your wave. If Flow 3.0 is such a game changer ( I’m not so sure it is) someone will do the R&D for you and then just buy the product with all the bugs already worked out..just sayin

I’m with you, a baby suckgate would simulate the same “crab” effect of the 3.0 wing with the 2.0 tab deployed. I’m not putting my time and energy into it making a 2.0 to 3.0 conversion, I just saw working out the mechanics of it without an additional actuator as a fun challenge to discuss.

[dakota4ce]

Am I missing something here? If delayed convergence is what you’re after why not try a hillbilly homemade suckgate out and see if it improves your wave. If Flow 3.0 is such a game changer ( I’m not so sure it is) someone will do the R&D for you and then just buy the product with all the bugs already worked out..just sayin

I don't think its a game changer. It just allows clean waves on each side without dicking around with ballast or going for more list angle. Fill everything, have clean wave no matter what side you choose because of the yaw it adds. That is it. Convenience.

And it works. Well. True level weighted clean side switching.