Polar Bear 2018 Video

[jmvotto]

True. Just an observation on the missing and the boats that were there .
Fi vs the Ri, sl vs the Se , x23 vs the xstar or x24

[dakota4ce]

True. Just an observation on the missing and the boats that were there .
Fi vs the Ri, sl vs the Se , x23 vs the xstar or x24

I would say there’s really not much in it for the boat manufacturers. Or the dealers that donate the boats. Therefore probably not high on the list of ways to spend time?

Just guessing again. Now that all manufacturers have incredible boats there isn’t really much to learn. Other than having a good time and surfing.


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[jmvotto]

I would say there’s really not much in it for the boat manufacturers. Or the dealers that donate the boats. Therefore probably not high on the list of ways to spend time?

Just guessing again. Now that all manufacturers have incredible boats there isn’t really much to learn. Other than having a good time and surfing.


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My conclusion all along , not a premier surf event. Just a really good time surfing and partying with your buddys and their boats boards and who ever else wants to pay to play. Sounds like a blast

[MJHSupra]

I would say there’s really not much in it for the boat manufacturers. Or the dealers that donate the boats. Therefore probably not high on the list of ways to spend time?

I was just telling someone this same thing. They will sell boats if they go or don’t go.

But I sure wish some of the other big-boys were there.

And it would be a good time, this why the event sells out so fast.


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[jmvotto]

I would love to ride your SE. all sacked and leaded out
But the title of the video is the best surf boats for 19 and i think they missed the mark by not including some of the best including the SE and putting in a MC that is discountinued

Eveyone has there preferences. But i would rather push a button for 1500 lbs than move it around the boat regardless of the GPH comparisons

[elevatedconcept]

I would love to ride your SE. all sacked and leaded out
But the title of the video is the best surf boats for 19 and i think they missed the mark by not including some of the best including the SE and putting in a MC that is discountinued

Eveyone has there preferences. But i would rather push a button for 1500 lbs than move it around the boat regardless of the GPH comparisons

We dont move anything around the 1k stays in all the time, in the same spot.

You may not care about the GPH but I cant for the life of me see how a boat that burns an avg of double the fuel a trip is tolerable or accepted. Go to powell and boat for a week. My crew surfs for 6-8 hours a day.... that's around 48 gallons vs around 90 gallons. Thats 120 plus a day difference in fuel. Do this for 7 days and you can see where I am going.

Locally we surf 3 days a week, 4 hour at a time. You say regardless of fuel burn you would rather push a button. I say take a harder look at the numbers.

[jmvotto]

Now its a gph issue ? maybe we should talk resale value if your worried about your bottom line

Your comments are misplaced
The main coments were about the PB18 missing the mark on the best surf boats out there . They missed


As a dealer i assume your running demos So running gas laps is important

Gas station is 1 mile from my lake house on the water .
so i would love to ride as much as you all do but family time and water time on our other boat is just as important to me on the lake .

[elevatedconcept]

Now its a gph issue ? maybe we should talk resale value if your worried about your bottom line

Your comments are misplaced
The main coments were about the PB18 missing the mark on the best surf boats out there . They missed


As a dealer i assume your running demos So running gas laps is important

Gas station is 1 mile from my lake house on the water .
so i would love to ride as much as you all do but family time and water time on our other boat is just as important to me on the lake .

My comments arent misplaced at all. My point was that its all a give and take and that no boat has it all. Its big picture. Resale? You have me there, dont know how that correlates or where you even are going with that but I digress.

You seem to really like Malibu and thats awesome, its why I used them as an example. FYI its a killer machine IMO.

You seemed to think that my 1k in lead + PNP is a lot so I explained to you the reasoning why . You said you would rather push a button then move weight around which I clarified in saying that we actually dont move weight, ever, at any time, since it originally went in the boat. Just was trying to get the details straight is all.

In your opinion you would rather push a bottom and drag a weighting device that simulates 1500lbs of weight at the expense of double the fuel... Instead of what? Adding some lead at the beginning? Running some PNP Bags?. To supra/moomba and most other MFG for that matter, the fuel burn is more important then needing to add 1k lbs of lead in the boat.

If you want to talk about on water time lets do it. I think on water time is exactly what supra and other MFG have as a top priority. How much time are malibu/ axis owners wasting having to get fuel once a day in their big boats and every half day in the smaller stuff? I guess its all about perspective. Even with living on a lake, I know how much time it takes to drop ballast, motor to the dock, get fuel and then go back out, re setup and start again.

"Also, not trying to be a Debbie downer , but if a mfg. cant throw a killer wave with factory ballast and 1000 lb of lead , then the hull and surf system should be redesigned. I have not seen so much lead entered into a surf equation as this Polar bear event"

My counter to that before and ill repeat is and I quote "Id rather run some lead then burn 15-17GPH with all things considered".

You say "If a mfg cant throw a killer wave with factory ballast and 1k lbs of lead then the hull design and surf system should be redesigned"

I say, if a mfg cant get a good wave without dropping a gas guzzling foil that simulates 1500lbs of downforce at the expense of 15 Gph then maybe it too should explore a hull design or ballast change.

All perspective right?

Thats really what I was after. Ill chalk it up to me doing a shitty explaining my thoughts.