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  1. #1
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    Default Why doesn't everyone do ram fill?

    Is it a patented design? Seems like a no brainer to me. Fill 2500-3000 lbs in 30 seconds and switch weight in either side in seconds. Love my Mondo, it's a big time boat in a small size, and it surfs great for a 20.5 footer but man, sucks filling bags for 12 minutes 2-3 times in a day.
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    Don't believe it's certified
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    centurion has ramfill.
    mb has gate valves.
    has shown up on a couple of boats. same basic concept just different ways to reach the same result.
    kinda surprised the new supra that I heard has hard tanks didn't install something like this. down side tho is if the gates stick open, your day is done. I have seen an mb have to load on a trailer as one of the gates stuck open and wouldn't drain. fun to watch a half-ballasted boat try to leave the water.
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    I read the Centurion has a manual switch to operate the gates in case of a software failure, not sure about MB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pat6969 View Post
    I read the Centurion has a manual switch to operate the gates in case of a software failure, not sure about MB.
    It's not a switch but they can be operated manually. Not something you would want to do over and over in a day though.
    '06 Outback - Gone but not forgotten
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    MB's that have the older version of ballast gates have a manual method that requires an allan key (stored with the ballast gate) to open and close if the primary method fails. The electric versions have been known to fail so in 2017 they went back to a manual cable actuated version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandm View Post
    centurion has ramfill.
    mb has gate valves.
    has shown up on a couple of boats. same basic concept just different ways to reach the same result.
    kinda surprised the new supra that I heard has hard tanks didn't install something like this. down side tho is if the gates stick open, your day is done. I have seen an mb have to load on a trailer as one of the gates stuck open and wouldn't drain. fun to watch a half-ballasted boat try to leave the water.
    The SL has bags under the floor for the new subfloor ballast.
    2006 Supra 20 - Sold
    2006 Supra 24 Gravity Games - Sold
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandm View Post
    centurion has ramfill.
    mb has gate valves.
    has shown up on a couple of boats. same basic concept just different ways to reach the same result.
    kinda surprised the new supra that I heard has hard tanks didn't install something like this. down side tho is if the gates stick open, your day is done. I have seen an mb have to load on a trailer as one of the gates stuck open and wouldn't drain. fun to watch a half-ballasted boat try to leave the water.
    The SL has bags under the floor for the new subfloor ballast.
    2006 Supra 20 - Sold
    2006 Supra 24 Gravity Games - Sold
    2015 Supra SE450 - Sold

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    Adding 3 more pumps is definitely on my winter project list. Waiting 14 minutes for the Enzo's to fill gets old fast

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    I tested out the fi23 back at wakefest. It is an awesome boat. However they still use pnp systems to fill bags. They use 4900 labs of ballast but only the hard tanks get quick fill. Also the fi is going to be expensive. The boat I tested was msrp at 123k. It is a huge disappointment when it came to money. Boats surfwake was monsterous though.
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