pretty sick looking wave for sure
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pretty sick looking wave for sure
I have the 1100 pound bags and the surf package bow bag, and I found that the best wave you can get actually is to reduce the surf plate deployment down to around about 45 to 50%. You would think that this would be worse than having it at 75 or 80%, but it isn't. I have found that when you use a lot of surf plate deployment it makes the wave flatter (skim style) and pushes the convergence point for the wake further across the stern of the boat. With less deployment it makes the wave steeper (huge curl) and a ton more push. The only thing that you have to change when you use less surf plate deployment is that you have to use more wakeplate deployment to around about 45 to 50% as well, but it makes a better wave (steeper) for surf style boards.
We can also increase the speed to around about 11.5 mph.
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@mattask do you have some more information on the enzos. I'm still running the 1100s
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For sure, what would you like to know?Quote:
Originally Posted by BrokeGuy
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Mattsask, do you pack a lunch when your riding so far behind the boat? Lol. That wave is awesome!
I've got the Enzos in transit to me as we speak. What plate settings are you using and did you come up with a fill time for them? If my wave is anywhere near that it'll be money well spent!Quote:
Originally Posted by mattsask
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I think they're set at 13:40 or there abouts. I run wakeplate all the way up most of the time, but sometimes give it a little bump down. I used to use the wakeplate to lengthen the wave but I've found that increasing speed is a more effective way of lengthening the wave without losing push. I run between 11.5 and 12.5 mph depending on crew size. lately I've just slammed all the ballast totally full and favored one passenger to surf side. Surf tabs are set at 65 for port surfing and 75 for stbd. Oh and I run roughly 400# of steel in the nose. If there's less than 4 of us I shift roughly 100# of that steel near the rear bench.Quote:
Originally Posted by hscraz
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Thanks for the info I'm looking forward to trying them out for sure. I'm running 200# of steel in the bow right now so sounds like I may need a little more but I'll see how it goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattsask
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Hope you went with the 2775! 15" is the way to go!
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Originally Posted by hscraz
Crazy Idea. Has anyone just kept the 900 factory bags and added like 500-750 of lead under the bags? Would put more permanent weight, but would also save time filling and draining. Would use more fuel but hey that's what they do right?
Does anyone have a picture of the enzo bags in the boat. I'm trying to figure out how much storage im going to lose.
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All of it. Every last inch under the seats. You'll have room for a couple vests on top of each bag in the v drive compartments, but that's it.Sent from my SM-G930W8 using TapatalkQuote:
Originally Posted by BrokeGuy
I run about 300lbs of steal plates under my bags. Takes up no room at all. About 1 inch or so. Ryno lined them then put marine carpet over them soit looka like a factory floor. I love the extra wieght.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremyu04
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Great! I think I’m sold on this instead of upgrading my bags. I need some storage. Would like the Enzo bags but still debating about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by gravity
Its a great way to go. I like the flat plates better that pop bags. But i do have a couple of those also to move around easy. Go to some of the steal plants in your area and see if they have some scrape that will lay in your lokers.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremyu04
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You can order custom enzo sacs, just shorten them a little to save some storage space or fold the end over works well to, then it's adjustable. That's what I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremyu04
I got a new setup for my 18 Craz. Bow and Port ballast 100%, Starboard 93%, Middle plate 25%, Starboard plate 45.Quote:
Originally Posted by parrothd
The wave is not as pretty but at 45 it has a ton of push to keep me 230lbs and 6' 1" going! Only thing I have extra is 400 lbs lead in rear and 100lbs lead in Bow.
Could go to about 20 feet back at the end of the rope and could still recover with this. Also had 5 passengers so that helped out a bit too. Would shift the heaviest passenger to rear surf side.
I will try that out. I was running about 4000lbs of ballast, with the middle plate at 14% and the surf plate at 55 with the speed around 11.2 and the wave was really tall but did not have a ton of push.
What do you have in the bow?Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowslydder
Here is a picture of the custom Mojo bags in a Mojo, I’m not sure if the Craz has the same size bench seat. They are 1270’s and give you a bit of room for storage.
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I have the stock ballast of 3000lbs
-900s in the back
-700 center tank
-500 IBS
I have been putting 200lbs of lead in the front. With the other 300 in the back. I also have 2 350lb bags that i put in the back and on the surf side.
I ordered ENZOs yesterday and they will be here Tuesday. I am just going to fold them and I have a crate to put on the starboard side for storage. Just trying to find the right settings for max push
I run really slow speed like 10.1 to 10.5., 55%, but you need deep water, 15ft+..
I am in lake whatcom and it is crazy deep so depth is not an issue. I Just need to spend more time messing with it. You would think that this would be easier. The only thing i am still trying to grasp is this.
More speed means long wake with more push
Lower speed with more wake plate equals more push
They seem to conflict.
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Originally Posted by Snowslydder
Here is the video of me surfing with these setting and trying a 180 lol didn't work just yet.
Faster makes the wave length longer and the wave height shorter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowslydder
Slower makes the wave lenght shorter and wave height taller.
More bow weight will lengthen the wave but keep the height.
Push is a misleading term, really what you care about is the pocket shape and that it matches your ridding skill.
The surf plate will modify the steepness, steep is harder to ride but will push you more.
If you ride the board backwards{revert} when you switch to healside the fin will be in the back. Much easier to learn, just dip your hand in water.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeremyu04
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Are you trailering with the extra 600lbs of plate in the back? I want to do this and some in the bow but am worried about the extra weight on the trailer.Quote:
Originally Posted by gravity
I do trailer with the weight. Seems ok. The bow lead does make it a little harder to get on the trailer. Sometimes it is right at the roller so you have to finesse it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kxmoomba
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Perfect, I would consider led bags for the front so I can take them out too, just didn't want to have to move all of it.Quote:
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I have the steel plates and a fee bags full of tire weights to move around easy.Quote:
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Never thought of tire weights.. that I could find easy. Having a hard time finding steel plates for free hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by gravity
8 bucks for the bag at home depot and 55 lbs of free tire weights. I have 2 of these and 2 of the bigher bags and 75lbs in them. 55 is way easier to move aroumd the boat as neededhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...bad8e98b04.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...67330a8e55.jpg
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Yep! great Idea!Quote:
Originally Posted by gravity
Hey man did you get actual Enzo bags or the wakemakers custom? They are not being real helpful to me for some reason. Just trying to figure out which fittings and stuff I need to swap all this out?
Order directly from https://www.fatsac.com/ you can get custom bags made aka enzos for cheaper than wakemakers sells them. It's the same bag..Quote:
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