2021 Mojo

[RC_Hinojosa]

He’s got well over $1million in it. Think we could surf behind that? He can make it throw a wave about 10’ tall.



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Pretty sure we could surf it but catching random whiffs of lobster bait might be a killjoy. [emoji23]

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[sandm]

Think we could surf behind that? He can make it throw a wave about 10’ tall.


knowing how hard it is to get 500lbs.. wonder how long it would take one of the lead ballast companies to ship 5000lbs of ballast via usps to that bad boy??? :p

[Josh828]

knowing how hard it is to get 500lbs.. wonder how long it would take one of the lead ballast companies to ship 5000lbs of ballast via usps to that bad boy??? :p

What is a live well other than a very large ballast tank haha already built in subfloor ballast

[cucv]

In the 90's I worked at a JetSki rental shop on the ocean. When we didn't have customers we would use the jetskis to tow each other in on surfboards behind large fishing and lobster boats. It was amazing how far back from the boat you could be and ride a huge wave. There was a port 10 miles north and we would shoot up on the jetskis and jump freighter wakes. We always want to try surfing them but the 20 mile round trip carrying a board on the jetski kept us from doing it.

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[2in2out]

Pretty sure we could surf it but catching random whiffs of lobster bait might be a killjoy. [emoji23]

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knowing how hard it is to get 500lbs.. wonder how long it would take one of the lead ballast companies to ship 5000lbs of ballast via usps to that bad boy??? :p


What is a live well other than a very large ballast tank haha already built in subfloor ballast

I'm sure it has an ice maker to help keep the beers cold.

[larry_arizona]

Was on a 44 foot tiara past summer fishing and it put out an awesome wave. We limited out and just hung out, capt said he would have let us surf if my son had his board. Wide wake


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[sandm]

Was on a 44 foot tiara past summer fishing and it put out an awesome wave. We limited out and just hung out, capt said he would have let us surf if my son had his board. Wide wake


we tried a 45ft formula cruiser a few years ago in green bay. it's not as easy as a wakeboat. wore my arms right out trying to hang on surfing the second wave back while the boat tried to pull me up. buddy was able to get up and drop the rope for a sec but it's not easy and honestly wasn't that much fun.

but I can say I've tried :)

[Ranita]

100"
New mojo in 2022 - 2023.
Not 2021

[Josh828]

Well guys I think I have found possibly my first regret with the boat. Watched a youtube video last night of a red and sliver flake 21 mojo with the exact interior as mine. (Tan/tan/chocolate accent)
The red on the interior looks amazing however... all the lighting on the boat is blue. On the blue demo boat the blue lighting looked great.. Now realizing my red boat is going to have only blue lighting I believe...

Im guessing the boat will not be wired with extra wires for rgb?
Anyone have any guesses about swapping out every single led on the boat for red?

[j.mo]

Well guys I think I have found possibly my first regret with the boat. Watched a youtube video last night of a red and sliver flake 21 mojo with the exact interior as mine. (Tan/tan/chocolate accent)
The red on the interior looks amazing however... all the lighting on the boat is blue. On the blue demo boat the blue lighting looked great.. Now realizing my red boat is going to have only blue lighting I believe...

Im guessing the boat will not be wired with extra wires for rgb?
Anyone have any guesses about swapping out every single led on the boat for red?

My last boat was Led’d up like a disco club.
What a waste of time that was [emoji23][emoji1787]
Used those lights more testing them than I ever did on the water.
I think you’ll be just fine unless you have a lake house and do a lot of nighttime booze cruises


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[russellsmojo]

Well guys I think I have found possibly my first regret with the boat. Watched a youtube video last night of a red and sliver flake 21 mojo with the exact interior as mine. (Tan/tan/chocolate accent)
The red on the interior looks amazing however... all the lighting on the boat is blue. On the blue demo boat the blue lighting looked great.. Now realizing my red boat is going to have only blue lighting I believe...

Im guessing the boat will not be wired with extra wires for rgb?
Anyone have any guesses about swapping out every single led on the boat for red?

Pretty sure this is fixed by swapping some wires at each light. At the light take the wire hooked to blue and move to red. Leave common the same. Have to do every light.


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[Josh828]

Pretty sure this is fixed by swapping some wires at each light. At the light take the wire hooked to blue and move to red. Leave common the same. Have to do every light.


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Thats what I was just reading the lights are already rbg however the wiring is just wrong, I'm an electrician so no worries there I just hate pulling new wire haha

Now just gotta find out about the cup holders and few other ones

Also plenty of late night adventures so might be worth it! Other than the candle light from blue is so much better than red but

[Slack]

Hi guys, just decided to purchase a 2021 mojo last night. Will be wanting tips for best surf wave setup others might have found. Thanks in advance.29467

[larry_arizona]

Hi guys, just decided to purchase a 2021 mojo last night. Will be wanting tips for best surf wave setup others might have found. Thanks in advance.29467

Welcome and congrats. Nice color combo and those 18’s look sweet.


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[TXSurf4]

Hi guys, just decided to purchase a 2021 mojo last night. Will be wanting tips for best surf wave setup others might have found. Thanks in advance.29467

Congrats!!! Good color combo!!

[stevo]

Well new to the group I have





29472 a 2021 mojo on order should be currently being built it’s a big upgrade from my v220 it was a March build spot hopefully there running on time

[larry_arizona]

Well new to the group I have





29472 a 2021 mojo on order should be currently being built it’s a big upgrade from my v220 it was a March build spot hopefully there running on time

Welcome and Congrats, despite being upside down, that is a good looking well optioned mojo build.


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[Guppydriver]

Hi guys, just decided to purchase a 2021 mojo last night. Will be wanting tips for best surf wave setup others might have found. Thanks in advance.29467

Gorgeous Boat!

Congrats! Post often!

[Woody929]

Crawling around the bow of mine now. Looking at all of the space now that the bow sack is sub floor. I say “there’s so much more room”.

Then we both say “there’s so much more room for activities “
Nothing like random Step Brothers quotes


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[russellsmojo]

Hi guys, just decided to purchase a 2021 mojo last night. Will be wanting tips for best surf wave setup others might have found. Thanks in advance.29467

Nice boat! Someone had this boat in stock?


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[2in2out]

Well new to the group I have





29472 a 2021 mojo on order should be currently being built it’s a big upgrade from my v220 it was a March build spot hopefully there running on time

Love the color scheme. The First SA we were interested in had a similar scheme. Loved the orange/black/ white combo.

[stevo]

Thanks! it was right side up on my phone I decided to eat the cost on all the options I just preferred the look of the pro tower here is the interior I was originally going brown but decided on this scheme suppose to be here early April I was originally going to buy a zs232 but after getting in both just preferred this one layout fully optioned they were very close in price 29474

[stevo]

Thanks yeah I decided to go 2 tone red and black and keep it simple the waiting sucks lol but I love the fire red metallic awesome Supra I almost bought a sl but decided to go new after crawling around the mojo they had at the dealer hopefully I made the right choice

[Isaguel]

Congrats, great looking boat. The attachment for the interior picture does not work. April delivery is not bad, I'm surprised its that quick.

[stevo]

29479I ordered it in Jan and they said may and someone cancelled and they called and asked if I wanted to move up

[Bigs28]

Ummm........ yes

[blay127]

We got to unwrap today! So pumped!

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[arsnlgunnr]

We got to unwrap today! So pumped!

Looks great! Congrats!


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[Guppydriver]

We got to unwrap today! So pumped!

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Congrats!!! That's a gorgeous Mojo...

[Isaguel]

That's a beauty!. Congrats. That must be the midnight blue metal flake? Cool to see all these new Mojo's starting to roll out.

[larry_arizona]

Gotta say midnight blue and pacific is a hottttt combo.

Mojo is a going to be a top seller next year.


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[Guppydriver]

I love the tower accents a lot of you guys seem to be doing. Really adds an upscale feel!

[blay127]

Yes it’s midnight blue flake on pacific blue accent and deck. The pacific blue tower accents do look great, and they should for $800. Hard pill to swallow for that but it really ties it all together

[korey]

We got to unwrap today! So pumped!



Congrats, that's a beauty! That's pretty much the boat I'd order today if I were doing it! I'd give Oxford Blue a second look for myself.

[mgswake]

Congrats, should be an awesome summer on that boat!!!

My eyes are having trouble, the section of hull over the Moomba lettering is that midnight blue? On my screen it looks black. May be my screen, eyes, or both.

[Josh828]

Congrats, should be an awesome summer on that boat!!!

My eyes are having trouble, the section of hull over the Moomba lettering is that midnight blue? On my screen it looks black. May be my screen, eyes, or both.

I think it's because it's under the cover. I think as soon as the sun light hits it will pop the blue out!

[blay127]

Congrats, should be an awesome summer on that boat!!!

My eyes are having trouble, the section of hull over the Moomba lettering is that midnight blue? On my screen it looks black. May be my screen, eyes, or both.

thanks! yes it was sort of overcast that morning and also under a cover so it did look dark in person also. Cant wait to see it on the water and in the sun.

[Riddler]

Great looking boat.

I really like how the "Moomba" logo is backlit on the tower appearance upgrade.

[Dk001m]

Can any of the new mojo owners give a comparison to a 2017-20 23LSV?

We’re in line for a mojo with a delivery date in July, and cross shopping against a low hour LSV available now for about 30k more. Both well equipped, and our biggest priorities are surf and social hosting with kids and friends.

To me, mojo offers more modern interior design apart from the helm (walkthrough, seadeck instead of carpet on this one, observer cutout), greater subfloor ballast, more freeboard for our rough lake, our choice of colors.

Lsv offers classic good looks, modern helm, good surf setup (gates plus wedge plus PnP), more creature comforts (bigger Bimini, swim step, probably quieter), a somewhat nicer interior, faster delivery, and the Moorage and service location are the same. Higher initial cost drives extra +3k in one-time taxes, $300/yr in interest and $150/yr in reg, but depreciation probably similar due to age difference (maybe $7k but who knows).

I’ve sat in but not ridden behind the mojo, so unsure how they compare in surf wave, noise levels, radio quality, and ride. Curious on the group’s thoughts.

[MJHSupra]

Can any of the new mojo owners give a comparison to a 2017-20 23LSV?

We’re in line for a mojo with a delivery date in July, and cross shopping against a low hour LSV available now for about 30k more. Both well equipped, and our biggest priorities are surf and social hosting with kids and friends.

To me, mojo offers more modern interior design apart from the helm (walkthrough, seadeck instead of carpet on this one, observer cutout), greater subfloor ballast, more freeboard for our rough lake, our choice of colors.

Lsv offers classic good looks, modern helm, good surf setup (gates plus wedge plus PnP), more creature comforts (bigger Bimini, swim step, probably quieter), a somewhat nicer interior, faster delivery, and the Moorage and service location are the same. Higher initial cost drives extra +3k in one-time taxes, $300/yr in interest and $150/yr in reg, but depreciation probably similar due to age difference (maybe $7k but who knows).

I’ve sat in but not ridden behind the mojo, so unsure how they compare in surf wave, noise levels, radio quality, and ride. Curious on the group’s thoughts.

Usually people will compare Malibu to Supra, and Axis to Moomba. You will not find too many 2021 Mojo people out there b/c it was released so late in 2020 - as you probably know.

I'm a fan of both of those boat models. I think when you are just cruising in the lake you will find the rides to be similar. They do not have the deeper Vs like other boat makers (Cent or MC), that is where you can feel a difference if you have rough conditions.

The BUs in previous years did not need as much ballast as a Supra or Moomba, but you will have higher fuel consumption b/c of the wedge. All the BU boats I have been on had the PnP and for a new boater, they were really easy to setup with just the gate and wedge deployed.

The 2021 Mojo I was on last Nov had 500#s of lead and 7-8 people. You can see the surf wave on the Wake9 video. It was nice. No issues getting on plane or sluggish out of the hole. They boat really took off when loaded up.

I cannot comment on noise b/c when I'm on a boat I really do not pay attention to that. I've been a cig boat fan for years, so if a boat had a little noise, no biggie to me.

Depending on how long you planned on keeping the boat, I would factor in the warranty length. Things go wrong with all boats and all boat makers. Nice to have a warranty and good dealer to support you and keep you on the water ALL summer.

You are in a win-win situation.

[larry_arizona]

Bu is far more luxury and plushness for the $30k price delta.

Never been on a bu other than at a boat show, but understand they are hard to drive when surfing due to bow rise and the drag of the wedge.

It really boils down to your budget.

As mentioned Bu is a luxury brand, moomba a budget to mid level brand.


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[Dk001m]

Usually people will compare Malibu to Supra, and Axis to Moomba. You will not find too many 2021 Mojo people out there b/c it was released so late in 2020 - as you probably know.

I'm a fan of both of those boat models. I think when you are just cruising in the lake you will find the rides to be similar. They do not have the deeper Vs like other boat makers (Cent or MC), that is where you can feel a difference if you have rough conditions.

The BUs in previous years did not need as much ballast as a Supra or Moomba, but you will have higher fuel consumption b/c of the wedge. All the BU boats I have been on had the PnP and for a new boater, they were really easy to setup with just the gate and wedge deployed.

The 2021 Mojo I was on last Nov had 500#s of lead and 7-8 people. You can see the surf wave on the Wake9 video. It was nice. No issues getting on plane or sluggish out of the hole. They boat really took off when loaded up.

I cannot comment on noise b/c when I'm on a boat I really do not pay attention to that. I've been a cig boat fan for years, so if a boat had a little noise, no biggie to me.

Depending on how long you planned on keeping the boat, I would factor in the warranty length. Things go wrong with all boats and all boat makers. Nice to have a warranty and good dealer to support you and keep you on the water ALL summer.

You are in a win-win situation.

Thanks a lot for the fast reply. Totally understand that experience with the mojo is thin right now, so happy to have found someone who’s been in one. I’d been waiting for that wake9 video and it made me feel really good about going mojo. Good to know about the wave and rough water performance.

We’ve been renting time on an 2018 a24 for the past year. Great wave and love the interior room. Looked at a ‘21 T23, but decided on the mojo due to vastly nicer interior.

I took a demo on a ‘21 LSV and it was shockingly nice inside, but thereÂ’s a chance we’ll have to move within 3 years and I’m concerned about a first year bill of 15k in taxes and 25k in depreciation, which wouldnÂ’t be as big a deal over a longer ownership period. Was hoping the ‘19 LSV would be similar, but felt quite a bit more basic and to my untrained eye not worlds different from the mojo (which I also really liked). Hoping that others with more experience can weigh in on whether the upgrade offers enough extra value to be is *worth* it.

I landed in a similar place that these are both great boats, and might come down to non-product factors like whether IÂ’m willing to wait until July.

[Bigs28]

Can anyone confirm what the fuel requirements are for the mojo? Does it need premium or anything?

[arsnlgunnr]

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[arsnlgunnr]

Can anyone confirm what the fuel requirements are for the mojo? Does it need premium or anything?

Here ya go, page 9:
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[Bigs28]

Thank you. I appreciate it

[blay127]

Nice text to get on a Friday afternoon

Woohoo!!! Anxious to see yours as we had similar designs.

Congrats!!

[Vati' Gang]

Might not be helpful for your direct comparison, but we spent a lot of time in the fall testing driving a couple boats. We are now previous Malibu owners and have gone with a new Supra SA over an LSV.

We are not fans of the Malibu surf system, it sucks gas and runs the engine at a much higher RPM than any other brand. From experience owning and testing typical RPM range on Malibu's when surfing is 4400+ (+ or - depending on wedge placement). In addition the surf gate is almost useless; with anything other than a minimal crew it prevents the boat from hitting your surf speed, we had it set to the lift setting 85% of the time.

Malibu also has consistent quality control issues for what comes out of the factory (Just spend some time on the forum) and does not reflect its look in our opinion.

[Isaguel]

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What a tease, that's just evil.

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[Isaguel]

Arsnignnr, Love the boat. That thing is really loaded, Flow 3.0, pro tower, FAE, 7" screen. Colors are great too. Love it.

[blay127]

HOT! Congrats man! Pro tower looks great on there

[arsnlgunnr]

Arsnignnr, Love the boat. That thing is really loaded, Flow 3.0, pro tower, FAE, 7" screen. Colors are great too. Love it.

Thanks! Really happy with how it turned out. REV 10s and swivel Triton racks still need to be installed.


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[arsnlgunnr]

HOT! Congrats man! Pro tower looks great on there

Thanks! The pac blue really pops in the sun. Looking forward to pics of your midnight blue flake on the water!


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[Riddler]

Sweet ride!

Congrats!

See yours, and my Mondo, it would seem color matching the trailer to the accent color is a great way to go.

[russellsmojo]

Great color combo! Does the pro tower have accents that fold out for the canopy? Curious how that works?


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[larry_arizona]

Pacific blue is popular this year, just a fun color and looks even better on the water. Pro tower really gives an up level feel.

Your combo exterior and interior is well done!!!


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[Dank]

Gorgeous boat man! Still haven't seen one in person..

Is there enough space underneath that passenger foot rest to stow away a small cooler?

Really gorgeous! Congrats!

[arsnlgunnr]

Gorgeous boat man! Still haven't seen one in person..

Is there enough space underneath that passenger foot rest to stow away a small cooler?

Really gorgeous! Congrats!

Thanks! Yeah a small to medium size soft sided cooler will tuck in there


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[Komojo_Dragon]

Looks great! Ordered mine from Southtown also, expected delivery in May!

[Josh828]

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I see my cheap racks and rev10s any guesses what the middle box is? (I was thinking boat cover)

[arsnlgunnr]

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I see my cheap racks and rev10s any guesses what the middle box is? (I was thinking boat cover)

Yep, that’s the cover.


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[larry_arizona]

Love the new mojo, sweet color combo and yes that box is your cover


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Nothing you cant find out on this forum haha
But also I believe so far I’m about the only red 21 mojo so far, did see one in Atlanta with the same colors but silver flake as the main color

[blay127]

whew that red and tan interior looks great! congrats!

[blay127]

In the sun and on the water where she belongs. Yeah the water is brown but thats Texas.

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[Josh828]

In the sun and on the water where she belongs. Yeah the water is brown but thats Texas.

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That was almost the exact color combo I was going with until the last second and gotta say I love it haha
I think its going to be the most popular choice for the mojo and its kinda odd color layouts

[rdlangston13]

In the sun and on the water where she belongs. Yeah the water is brown but thats Texas.

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Is that april plaza?

[blay127]

Is that april plaza?

yup, sure enough

[Isaguel]

Awesome looking Mojo's. Congrats guys. Post some wave pics and reviews.

[Bigs28]

What was your estimated completion date and actual? Ive been told mine is a may completion.

[Josh828]

What was your estimated completion date and actual? Ive been told mine is a may completion.

My build date was march 29th and sure enough it came out of gel coat that day! April 2nd it was pretty much done. So started on a Monday finished on a Friday.
Took about a week for the horn to come in and boat was picked up and brought to my dealer April 14th.

They started rigging it April 20th and should have it done by Saturday hopefully.

[Dank]

My build date was march 29th and sure enough it came out of gel coat that day! April 2nd it was pretty much done. So started on a Monday finished on a Friday.
Took about a week for the horn to come in and boat was picked up and brought to my dealer April 14th.

They started rigging it April 20th and should have it done by Saturday hopefully.

Our build date was April 13th, should have been done 4/20. Very anxious to see how long before we get it. .... hopefully it's not one of the ones stuck at the end of the process (like the earlier post talked about during factory tour). Fingers crossed.

[arsnlgunnr]

In the sun and on the water where she belongs. Yeah the water is brown but thats Texas.

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[TXSurf4]

Is that april plaza?

Definitely my favorite launch on Conroe!! Parking lot can get a little crazy but it is very well protected and easy to load/unload at.

[Bigs28]

My original completion date was sometime in May. Today i was told it's now June 1st. :( then who knows how long it will take to get to south Florida.

[Josh828]

I only got a start date, which I confused for the completion date but no worries. Not sure if this weekend is even going to workout for pick up so might be may 1st who knows

But they did lake test the boat today so I think they will shine it up and it’s ready
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[Guppydriver]

I only got a start date, which I confused for the completion date but no worries. Not sure if this weekend is even going to workout for pick up so might be may 1st who knows

But they did lake test the boat today so I think they will shine it up and it’s ready
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Beautiful Boat! It's like Christmas everyday on the Moomba Forums!

[Josh828]

Beautiful Boat! It's like Christmas everyday on the Moomba Forums!

Just waiting to see yours now it seems haha


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[ToddP1616]

Just got this picture from dealer. Excited to see it un-wrapped.
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[larry_arizona]

Just got this picture from dealer. Excited to see it un-wrapped.
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[got2skigrl]

My original completion date was sometime in May. Today i was told it's now June 1st. :( then who knows how long it will take to get to south Florida.

I just had the same conversation with my dealer. We were supposed to have the boat in May, it has been pushed back to a June 14th delivery, assuming no more delays. :mad:

[Guppydriver]

Take it off take it off take it off


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Stick some singles underneath the cover! It helps!

[larry_arizona]

Stick some singles underneath the cover! It helps!

Singles are no longer welcome at da club.......you might get sucker punched for less that 5’s.


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[Dank]

Just got word today - "completed" and "shipped"!!

It's, not on the road yet, but once it is ...they should have it a few days later! Getting closer!

Super stoked!!!

[larry_arizona]

Just got word today - "completed" and "shipped"!!

It's, not on the road yet, but once it is ...they should have it a few days later! Getting closer!

Super stoked!!!

Definitely like a kid waiting for Xmas. [emoji106][emoji106]


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[Josh828]

Got down to check mine out and the sound system really bumps inside a building lol https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210424/5dd3a237995e47700505531e909c70a5.jpg

[j.mo]

Got down to check mine out and the sound system really bumps inside a building lol https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210424/5dd3a237995e47700505531e909c70a5.jpg

Good call throwing the WS in. Turn key!

That thing is sweet man! Glad you made the right choice!!


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[HFarr]

Super nice looking!

[ToddP1616]

Got a sneak peek picture from my dealer (I’ll get more Monday when it’s finished) 29616

[Josh828]

Thanks I cheaped out a lot my audio was important, and is that the midnight blue flake?


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[ToddP1616]

[QUOTE=Josh828;366709]Thanks I cheaped out a lot my audio was important, and is that the midnight blue flake?

Yes, it’s the midnight blue flake, dark graphite, and captains blue.

[ToddP1616]

I’m supposed to pick mine up on Friday. Can’t wait. 29623

[ToddP1616]

Inside29624

[larry_arizona]

You will love the midnight blue, silver, gold, 3 blues and a slight amount of red flakes.

You made a really nice color combo build.


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[ToddP1616]

You will love the midnight blue, silver, gold, 3 blues and a slight amount of red flakes.

You made a really nice color combo build.


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Thanks. Everyone I talk to has loved that midnight blue flake, so can’t wait to see it in the sun out on the lake.

[Isaguel]

I’m supposed to pick mine up on Friday. Can’t wait. 29623

Ooooh, that's nice. Pro-tower, triton racks, 7 in screen. Great color and feature combo. I'm in the camp of those that think getting those extra features, although higher cost up front, preserves a lot of resale value by increasing desirability. Love the boat man. Enjoy.

[Josh828]

Picked up my boat yesterday, tried to do a little surfing but it was only myself and a friend and couldn’t get any push out of it at all. Today going back out and have invited quite a lot of ballast to tag along haha

But I can’t seem search on the app as well but I want my pitch at like 8.5-9? And my roll at what?

Anyone have a decent setup on the mojo yet?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210502/a5def121ddbaffe6a0c56cb13267170a.jpg


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[russellsmojo]

Picked up my boat yesterday, tried to do a little surfing but it was only myself and a friend and couldn’t get any push out of it at all. Today going back out and have invited quite a lot of ballast to tag along haha

But I can’t seem search on the app as well but I want my pitch at like 8.5-9? And my roll at what?

Anyone have a decent setup on the mojo yet?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210502/a5def121ddbaffe6a0c56cb13267170a.jpg


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I figured that boat would surf pretty good factory. Heavy and lots of ballast. Kind of surprised! Beautiful boat!


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[Chuds]

Wake 9's settings are around the 6:55 mark and he had 1k in lead and a reasonable crew so likely need to have some extra weight on light crew days as you noted and probably a bit more weight on decent crew days as he did in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_JmlJhCkNM


Goofy

Pitch ~ 9.5
Roll ~ 4

Regular
Pitch ~ 9.5
Roll ~-1 to-2

[brad460]

How is this possible- Brand new wakesurf boat doesn’t make a good enough wake to surf? Now everyone will tell you to add lead?

Doesn’t it have 4000lbs ballast stock?

Are these new boats that sensitive to setup?

Use to surf our 04 Moomba LSV with one 750lb bag in the back corner..I am expecting our new Max to have twice the size wave.

[htfit]

How is this possible- Brand new wakesurf boat doesn’t make a good enough wake to surf? Now everyone will tell you to add lead?

Doesn’t it have 4000lbs ballast stock?

Are these new boats that sensitive to setup?

Use to surf our 04 Moomba LSV with one 750lb bag in the back corner..I am expecting our new Max to have twice the size wave.I understand how you feel, I had a 2003 lsv that always produced a great consistent wake with about 1800lbs of ballast but someone explained it on here a while back.

When you add 2k of ballast to the older boats you reach 100%+ of the boats potential to weigh it down. They have a max rating of something like 11 passengers or 1,500lbs. I know I was pretty close to the rub rails with 650lbs in each locker and center ballast.

Well in the newer boats it takes A LOT more weight to reach the boats full displacement potential.

In the Max the displacement potential is 5900lbs (including gear and passengers) so you need a lot more weight to sink it in the water. The wave will defineltely be bigger on the max but I hate to say your probably going to need more then the stock 4000lbs. It really starts to come alive with 5,000lbs+.

Hope that makes sense, I am sure someone else can examine it better than me.

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[Josh828]

So the difference of the wake was incredible adding 4 more guys (6 guys 170-240) then saw some cute girls on a jet ski and brought along all 3 of them (reallllly liking this boat)

Used auto wake today and actually really liked it, watched the wake9 video again and used his settings. Didn’t realize riding portside should have been negative roll and kept trying to get it plus 1 but when I had the pitch at 9.5 it was beautiful

Still lacks some push and the actual width of the wave seems small the pocket wants to be just behind the boat but I think the potential is definitely there just didn’t have time to play with it more

Also yesterday we were having fun switching sides while surfing and the goofy side actually looked better however with auto wake on today it absolutely would not make a wave on the goofy side I’m sure I was doing something wrong.. this is my first boat and first V drive experience really but so far I’m loving it

[Bigs28]

What speed were you going?

[larry_arizona]

How is this possible- Brand new wakesurf boat doesn’t make a good enough wake to surf? Now everyone will tell you to add lead?

Doesn’t it have 4000lbs ballast stock?

Are these new boats that sensitive to setup?

Use to surf our 04 Moomba LSV with one 750lb bag in the back corner..I am expecting our new Max to have twice the size wave.

It’s not only possible. It’s true. Most boats need a decent crew load or lead. Hard to get a surf boat to produce a killer wave with 1-2 crew on board.

No replacement for displacement and the bigger the boat, the more mass required to displace.

Take for example a max vs SA same size hulls.

Max is 4500# with 4000# ballast
SA is 5800# with 3500# ballast

Out of the box, that is 800# difference in displacement. Assuming an SA can surf good with a light crew out of the box, the max would need 800# of crew or lead to compete.

Most would add 300-500# more lead to an SA.


However, I am sure the OP with practice and understanding will improve his stock wake immensely with time. But lead or crew will only help the wave.

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[Josh828]

What speed were you going?

Anywhere from 10.5-11.5 mph,

Really thinking of how I could add ballast because my truck didn't love the steep grades on the drive home haha
Then again I think just 300lbs of lead would really help and would the truck even notice 300 more lbs???

This weekend was just the test weekend and I would only surf in short burst to not run the engine at a certain rpm for very long but soon I will have quite a large crew regularly and be on my normal smaller mountain lakes with deep glassy coves haha

[sleek98]

Does anyone know the allocation of the 4000# of weight between the rear bags and the bow bag? I am looking to see if its worth changing out the rear bags? I have 500# of lead and still needing to get the nose up higher to hit the 9.5*, or I need to let most of the water out in the bow.

My problem is my crew is usually my 140# wife, and 95# worth of kids. I think I need another 500# but if I can do it with water now instead of more lead I would like to go that route.

[Josh828]

This is a total guess but based off eyeing the bags I would guess the rear bags are #1500 each and the front bag is #1000 for the total #4000..

However where are you putting your #500 of lead?

I was moving a person to the bow and one to the observer seat to get the bow down to 9.5*

[sleek98]

I need to move it all to behind the driver under the bench, but it was 300# under the port rear seat and 200# under the Stbd rear seat. My bags after my third run were down to 50% front, 40% port and 100% stbd. I started with 75% Front and port and 100% stbd. The wake looked good at first and got worse and worse the longer I went. Complete noob, but I had it looking decent for my wife. Then I hopped in and it went to shit while I let autowake do its thing.

I am wondering if my autowake needs calibrating, I took deliver in November and the dealer never put it in the water. I just started messing with it this weekend but from talking with others I need more people or more lead or autowake will just keep dumping everything. My wife did say the only thing she looked at was the actual gauge keep dropping everytime she looked at it.

[Josh828]

Hmm I wonder if it does need calibrating, I actually had better luck with auto wake then I did myself however my front stayed 100% and my port only lowered to around 80%-90%.

I would even think about putting your lead at the very rear under your ballast bags ( if this won't interfere i'm new) I

Also if you notice your port bag draining that much time to move lead over to the stbd.
I think the trick with weighing the boat down properly is have as much weight as possible while having all the bags at 100%. If you notice a bag draining move your lead to the opposite side. Or farther back/forward for the bow bag.

[sleek98]

That is my plan. I am going to swap it all over to the stbd side, my thought it the port side will have to fill to make up for the 600# swing in weight, then the front will have to fill to make up for the rear taking on extra weight.

[cozilla]

Hey sleek98 we were talking over on jetboaters but also you can download an inclinometer app on your phone, set it on the floor between the driver's seat and the ob seat and see how the autowake readings compare to the apps readings. That might tell you if your autowake needs to be calibrated.

[sleek98]

Thanks, I was just wondering if there was an app I could use to check. I am watching the videos Haknslash posted and I want to check the system to the app.

[mojoylw]

Just got word my mojo is at the dealership today!
Delivery is next week [emoji1][emoji1]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210514/6fcd2bd97b2115582e35e05b636de8ca.jpg
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[Bigs28]

That looks very similar to my build. Congrats

[Josh828]

Very nice! Glad you got yours right now is the perfect time!


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[russellsmojo]

Well done! Beautiful boat!


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[arsnlgunnr]

Just got word my mojo is at the dealership today!

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Congrats! Nice colors [emoji57]


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[Guppydriver]

Just got word my mojo is at the dealership today!
Delivery is next week [emoji1][emoji1]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210514/6fcd2bd97b2115582e35e05b636de8ca.jpg
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That's freaking gorgeous! Reminds me of @larryarizona's Supra a little. Post some pics on the water when you get a chance.

[stevo]

Just showed up at the dealer stoked29720

[Bigs28]

Triple axle. Craziness. Can't wait to see the rest

[Josh828]

I didn't even realize triple axle was an option on a mojo! looks sick

[stevo]

its not a online option I tow a lot and plan on adding lead if you have your dealer email boatmate they can do it for a extra charge I went with 15 rims instead of 14 color matched it was 1500 more to me worth it triples are smoother on highway they said if I wanted 18 inch rims it would be 2500 I prefer 15 more meat ond easier to get tires still waiting for pics when it is uwrapped picking it up fri

[Guppydriver]

its not a online option I tow a lot and plan on adding lead if you have your dealer email boatmate they can do it for a extra charge I went with 15 rims instead of 14 color matched it was 1500 more to me worth it triples are smoother on highway they said if I wanted 18 inch rims it would be 2500 I prefer 15 more meat ond easier to get tires still waiting for pics when it is uwrapped picking it up fri

$1500 up charge for a third axle is a great deal. That thing is going to have some serious ramp appeal as well. Post more pics when you get a chance

Congrats on such an awesome boat!

[stevo]

29722 Here are some pics from dealer

[stevo]

297232972429725 unwrapped today thank boat country in ripon

[mojoylw]

Got the boat this weekend and onto the lift.

Also just picked up 1600lbs of bags to dial in the wave when we have a small crew(cant do lead as im already pushing the lift capacity)https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210525/8c76b5cd6d96b9b634b197d8632e0483.jpg


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[mojoylw]

297232972429725 unwrapped today thank boat country in ripon

Love that combo!


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[HFarr]

That is a sweet setup. Lift too! Looking back through the past post's here josh your interior is exactly like mine. Right down to the speakers!

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[Josh828]

What kinda bags did you get? Been thinking about getting some as well can’t decide which or where however


And red and tan is good combo! Glad I didn’t go with more brown however because it gets hotttt


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[mojoylw]

What kinda bags did you get? Been thinking about getting some as well can’t decide which or where however


And red and tan is good combo! Glad I didn’t go with more brown however because it gets hotttt


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I just got a 750 fat sac and 2 400s

Plan is to put the 750 on the floor in the back a 400 under the bow cushion and a 400 on the surf side seats.


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[Josh828]

I just got a 750 fat sac and 2 400s

Plan is to put the 750 on the floor in the back a 400 under the bow cushion and a 400 on the surf side seats.


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Would love to see how that will work out! I would really like something in the front because half the time no one wants to sit up front especially alone if I have a smaller crew haha

[sleek98]

I am going to pull out the rear bags this weekend, blow them up with air and measure them to see if I can have wakemakers custom make a bag which will be another 12-14" taller on the rear bags. I am guessing that will add 300-400# per side. I would need to take out the rear bins to use all the room. I would like to keep as much weight as I can integrated in with the G6 pumps since they are so fast to fill up.

Its usually just myself, wife and 2 kids so I only have 250# in the boat when I am surfing. We have 500# of lead but I think we need another 750#. If I can get another 600-800# out of the rear bags I would be happy with picking up another 100# of lead to get me to 1,500# total.

[cozilla]

@sleek98 keep us posted on what Wakemakers says. I would like to do the same. I dont have the rear bins so not concerned about that but to be able to have more water weight instead of a bunch of lead would be great. I have 500#s as well but would like to use that to dial it in with the extra water weight. I still think that those Makai bags might work but I'm not an expert haha.

[sleek98]

@sleek98 keep us posted on what Wakemakers says. I would like to do the same. I dont have the rear bins so not concerned about that but to be able to have more water weight instead of a bunch of lead would be great. I have 500#s as well but would like to use that to dial it in with the extra water weight. I still think that those Makai bags might work but I'm not an expert haha.

The Makai bags I believe are just the rear lockers as they run a separate midship bag as well. I am not 100% certain on that but from what I have read they keep the stock midship with the wake makers kit. Our Mojo bags are 1 bag that looks like a giant L. It would be possible to run 2 separate off the shelf bags, but then you are buying 4 bags vs 2, as well as an extra connectors , nipples, hose etc. Doing some rough math on their custom bag builder I think we can get 1,800-1,850# on each side . I believe they are 1,400-1,500 pound bags stock I will know more this weekend when I get them out.. Looks like the 2 custom bags will run 1,200-1,250 with fittings.

If you get the 1345 makai rear bags (620) then get a 350-400# midship bags (250-400 depending on what the size ends up being) plus 200-250 in fittings and hoses. That gets you to 1,100 on the low end and 1,250 on the high end. But I still think you will end up 100# short on each side.

I ordered the bins but ill be honest I likely will take them out as right now I have only been using them to keep ropes and I can move them somewhere else.

[cozilla]

I didn't realize the Makai uses two separate bags. That make sense then. Looking forward to what you come up with.

[sleek98]

I am curious to see what we can get. If you want to go full crazy you might be able to take out the false floor in the midship seats to get another 250-300# on each side, but that might be a bit extreme.

[cozilla]

Yea I am with you. I need to keep my under seat storage or my wife might kill me lol.

[mojoylw]

Picked up my boat yesterday, tried to do a little surfing but it was only myself and a friend and couldn’t get any push out of it at all. Today going back out and have invited quite a lot of ballast to tag along haha

But I can’t seem search on the app as well but I want my pitch at like 8.5-9? And my roll at what?

Anyone have a decent setup on the mojo yet?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210502/a5def121ddbaffe6a0c56cb13267170a.jpg


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I just noticed you have the same truck as me too LOL

do you have electric brakes on your trailer? i picked up my trailer yesterday and the lights and everything worked but i didn't have any trailer brakes

[cozilla]

If anyone keeps their Mojo on an uncovered slip, I had my cover modified to add skirts and a transom cover that attaches to the cover. My boat is all black so saves the hull from getting beat up by the sun all day.
29728

[RC_Hinojosa]

I am going to pull out the rear bags this weekend, blow them up with air and measure them to see if I can have wakemakers custom make a bag which will be another 12-14" taller on the rear bags. I am guessing that will add 300-400# per side. I would need to take out the rear bins to use all the room. I would like to keep as much weight as I can integrated in with the G6 pumps since they are so fast to fill up.

Its usually just myself, wife and 2 kids so I only have 250# in the boat when I am surfing. We have 500# of lead but I think we need another 750#. If I can get another 600-800# out of the rear bags I would be happy with picking up another 100# of lead to get me to 1,500# total.

This might be premature...maybe speak with Wakemakers first before ordering custom.

With the Mojo being a late release, I wouldn't be surprised if the exact fit bags aren't available for it yet....

After everyone started stuffing Enzo bags in anything but an Enzo, Wakemakers now does a laser scan for their "Exact Fit" bags.

Is that with or without bins...I dunno. It'd be nice if they are sized without the bins.

Give'em a call and let us know.



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[Hayden]

I am going to pull out the rear bags this weekend, blow them up with air and measure them to see if I can have wakemakers custom make a bag which will be another 12-14" taller on the rear bags. I am guessing that will add 300-400# per side. I would need to take out the rear bins to use all the room. I would like to keep as much weight as I can integrated in with the G6 pumps since they are so fast to fill up.

Its usually just myself, wife and 2 kids so I only have 250# in the boat when I am surfing. We have 500# of lead but I think we need another 750#. If I can get another 600-800# out of the rear bags I would be happy with picking up another 100# of lead to get me to 1,500# total.

I'm in a similar situation. Don't have the rear bins and am looking to add more ballast. The spec sheet shows 2500# of nameplate extra weight capacity (people/fuel/cargo). With 70 gals of fuel you're adding approximately 420#, plus, say, 300# of spotter/driver weight, and 100# of cargo (life jackets/misc), I figure we're around 900#, so I'd be looking to add 1600# of ballast to max it out. I am planning to use the space under the side seats and plumb those bags into the main rear bags as well as updating the two main rear bags to their (binless) potential.

I emailed wakemakers 2 months back asking if they had had a chance to do the exact-fit scanning of the 2021 mojo but at that time they had not.

I'm going out this weekend to start my burn in but will also be brainstorming bag arrangement. Keep posting up any notable details of your install, we all help each other by sharing any problems/solutions we come across.

[RC_Hinojosa]

I'm in a similar situation. Don't have the rear bins and am looking to add more ballast. The spec sheet shows 2500# of nameplate extra weight capacity (people/fuel/cargo). With 70 gals of fuel you're adding approximately 420#, plus, say, 300# of spotter/driver weight, and 100# of cargo (life jackets/misc), I figure we're around 900#, so I'd be looking to add 1600# of ballast to max it out. I am planning to use the space under the side seats and plumb those bags into the main rear bags as well as updating the two main rear bags to their (binless) potential.

I emailed wakemakers 2 months back asking if they had had a chance to do the exact-fit scanning of the 2021 mojo but at that time they had not.

I'm going out this weekend to start my burn in but will also be brainstorming bag arrangement. Keep posting up any notable details of your install, we all help each other by sharing any problems/solutions we come across.If there is anyone in the Bend, Oregon area with a '21 Mojo....do everyone else a solid and let Wakemakers scan your boat.

With no inventory and limited deliveries, they probably haven't even touched one yet.

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[Josh828]

I just noticed you have the same truck as me too LOL

do you have electric brakes on your trailer? i picked up my trailer yesterday and the lights and everything worked but i didn't have any trailer brakes

Didn't get the electric brakes, just the surge breaks! Works really well doesn't push my truck hardly at all unless coming to a quick low speed stop.

[Josh828]

Also instead of buying an entire one piece new bag. Ive thought about stacking a square bag on top of my rear bags? Is this a terrible idea?

[sleek98]

This might be premature...maybe speak with Wakemakers first before ordering custom.

With the Mojo being a late release, I wouldn't be surprised if the exact fit bags aren't available for it yet....

After everyone started stuffing Enzo bags in anything but an Enzo, Wakemakers now does a laser scan for their "Exact Fit" bags.

Is that with or without bins...I dunno. It'd be nice if they are sized without the bins.

Give'em a call and let us know.


I called them early April and they had not seen one yet. I hope they have gotten one in by now, but Ill take my measurements this weekend and give them a call next week once I see how much of an improvement there can be. There is not much if any improvement to be made with the bins. There is just enough room to get my hand up under the bin to unscrew the air valve, maybe 4"


I'm in a similar situation. Don't have the rear bins and am looking to add more ballast. The spec sheet shows 2500# of nameplate extra weight capacity (people/fuel/cargo). With 70 gals of fuel you're adding approximately 420#, plus, say, 300# of spotter/driver weight, and 100# of cargo (life jackets/misc), I figure we're around 900#, so I'd be looking to add 1600# of ballast to max it out. I am planning to use the space under the side seats and plumb those bags into the main rear bags as well as updating the two main rear bags to their (binless) potential.

I emailed wakemakers 2 months back asking if they had had a chance to do the exact-fit scanning of the 2021 mojo but at that time they had not.

I'm going out this weekend to start my burn in but will also be brainstorming bag arrangement. Keep posting up any notable details of your install, we all help each other by sharing any problems/solutions we come across.

There is not a ton of room on top of the false floor, 6-8" maybe by the time you factor in fittings. There is an access cover and a plug not to far off of the cover that you could plumb a line into the front of the arm on the rear bags, then vent it off the top rear. You can gain a couple hundred pounds there, but if your going through that I would see if you cant take the subfloor out and run a custom rear bag in the 2k range, I havent had a chance to look to see if its easily removeable.


Also instead of buying an entire one piece new bag. Ive thought about stacking a square bag on top of my rear bags? Is this a terrible idea?

I need to measure where the plugs are as that was another idea that crossed my mind. I was worried about putting 450# directly on top of the connectors if you were wanting to "stack" the bags using connectors on the top of the stock bag and the bottom of the additional bag, I guess you could put a piece of 1.5" foam in between them to take some of the pressure off.

You would gain 225-250# each side if you have to leave one of the top plugs uncovered to plumb in the additional bag, I will double check the measurement of where the top plugs are this weekend. Cost per pound that might be the best way to go as 2 smaller custom bags would be 400-500 with fittings and you would gain 500ish# in the back of the boat.

They do have a stock 30x25x15 bag that may fit depending on where the ports are located, but that still leaves the issue of 450# of weight sitting on the connectors and hoses pushing down on the factory sac. That method would be around 400 worth of supplies to get it in.

If you end up putting an additional 500-800 in the back locker of the boat your going to need to put 300-500 additional weight in the bow to drop it back down. I have 100 under each rear bag right now. when I had 150 under each bag I had to move 100 to the front to get my pitch down. I have 500 in lead so I would like to get as much as I can in the rear then move my lead up front.

[Josh828]

Yeah the boat is weighted very well how it is but any additional weight in the rear will directly need weight in the front as well however the bow there is plenty of room.
Although I love the idea of everything being plumbed in I was debating on throwing a pump over board to fill the extra bags. Don’t have to worry about connectors quite as much

But something completely plumbed would be amazing


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[Bigs28]

Leadwake.com said they are doing a memorial day sale. Hope it's good enough for me to order another 500lbs. I currently have 500 and my mojo is supposed to be complete next week.

[sleek98]

I would compare it to wakelife.co there is no m on the end. Final15 gets
You 500# shipped for low 400.

[Bigs28]

Already have 500 in the cart on wakelife but it's 486 with their spring sale code. Final15 doesn't work. Just waiting to see if a memorial day sale is any cheaper

[HFarr]

If anyone keeps their Mojo on an uncovered slip, I had my cover modified to add skirts and a transom cover that attaches to the cover. My boat is all black so saves the hull from getting beat up by the sun all day.
29728That just looks wicked with the side covers! I like it!

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[BillyJack]

I've been trying to dial in the wave on our 2021 Mojo and haven't had much success. I have a friend that has a 2021 Axis A24 and the wave is huge, long and very repeatable. It's so fun and easy to surf....it has so much push my back leg tires from. I want my Mojo to produce something close to A24 and just haven't been able to make it happen yet. We run a crew of 4 with 1300 lbs of lead ballast bags...300 under each rear bag, 250 port side midship, 250 starboard side midship, and 200 in the bow. The wave has about 40% of the push of the A24 wave, seems a little short, it's difficult to generate speed, and it's hard to recover if you make a mistake. At this point we meet up, anchor my boat, and surf his A24....no one wants to surf my Mojo. Having a little buyers remorse BUT haven't give up yet. The dealer agreed to upgrade the rear bags as part of the the purchase so I am very interested in the rear bag measurements and availability of the bags. The dealer said the upgraded bags should add an additional 250 to 300 lbs to each rear bag. I'm hoping this significantly improves my wave but I am skeptical.

Oh and my plate settings I've tinkered with the center plate between 0 and 20 and surf plate (regular surfer) between 35 and 60.

I feel like I should be getting a comparable wave to the A24 and it's so far off right now. Any shared experiences and advice would appreciated.

[Bigs28]

Can you share some more info? What were your pitch and roll settings? Where did you put all the lead. Where your bags full or did auto wake dump a bunch of water based on lead placement? Pictures?

[Josh828]

I've been trying to dial in the wave on our 2021 Mojo and haven't had much success. I have a friend that has a 2021 Axis A24 and the wave is huge, long and very repeatable. It's so fun and easy to surf....it has so much push my back leg tires from. I want my Mojo to produce something close to A24 and just haven't been able to make it happen yet. We run a crew of 4 with 1300 lbs of lead ballast bags...300 under each rear bag, 250 port side midship, 250 starboard side midship, and 200 in the bow. The wave has about 40% of the push of the A24 wave, seems a little short, it's difficult to generate speed, and it's hard to recover if you make a mistake. At this point we meet up, anchor my boat, and surf his A24....no one wants to surf my Mojo. Having a little buyers remorse BUT haven't give up yet. The dealer agreed to upgrade the rear bags as part of the the purchase so I am very interested in the rear bag measurements and availability of the bags. The dealer said the upgraded bags should add an additional 250 to 300 lbs to each rear bag. I'm hoping this significantly improves my wave but I am skeptical.

Oh and my plate settings I've tinkered with the center plate between 0 and 20 and surf plate (regular surfer) between 35 and 60.

I feel like I should be getting a comparable wave to the A24 and it's so far off right now. Any shared experiences and advice would appreciated.

Im in the same boat, all my friends are on Malibu or axis. Wave is incredible with no one even In the boat.
My wave is really getting there completely stock but need about 10 people in the boat.
1. Fill all your ballast. 2. Kick one of your ballast on with the manual switch. 3. Set center plate to zero and surf plate to 100. 4. Get up to speed. 5. Go to auto wake screen (Having ballast manually on will not let auto wake do its thing) but you can check your pitch and roll. 6. Adjust lead around to get the correct pitch. I would try to move passengers for roll. 7. Start playing with the speed (10.8 for me) and surf tab to get the wave to clean up. (70 for me)

I actually ride goofy and had to turn the speed up to 11.5 to get the wave to form on the goofy side
Also disclaimer in case some of this is wrong.. I'm just learning how to even wake surf and this is my first ever boat

[larry_arizona]

Need some pitch and roll numbers to help.

Hopefully you are not trying copy pitch and roll of a axis or MaliBU.


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[sleek98]

I've been trying to dial in the wave on our 2021 Mojo and haven't had much success. I have a friend that has a 2021 Axis A24 and the wave is huge, long and very repeatable. It's so fun and easy to surf....it has so much push my back leg tires from. I want my Mojo to produce something close to A24 and just haven't been able to make it happen yet. We run a crew of 4 with 1300 lbs of lead ballast bags...300 under each rear bag, 250 port side midship, 250 starboard side midship, and 200 in the bow. The wave has about 40% of the push of the A24 wave, seems a little short, it's difficult to generate speed, and it's hard to recover if you make a mistake. At this point we meet up, anchor my boat, and surf his A24....no one wants to surf my Mojo. Having a little buyers remorse BUT haven't give up yet. The dealer agreed to upgrade the rear bags as part of the the purchase so I am very interested in the rear bag measurements and availability of the bags. The dealer said the upgraded bags should add an additional 250 to 300 lbs to each rear bag. I'm hoping this significantly improves my wave but I am skeptical.

Oh and my plate settings I've tinkered with the center plate between 0 and 20 and surf plate (regular surfer) between 35 and 60.

I feel like I should be getting a comparable wave to the A24 and it's so far off right now. Any shared experiences and advice would appreciated.

With your lead placement, I am guessing your pitch is over 10 maybe closer to 11*, unless you had 3 people in the bow. With 600# in the far back, 500 just behind the tower you need more than 200 in the bow to bring it back down. Plus if all 3 people were in the back that would push you even higher.

I was shooing for 9* pitch but I think I am going to try to drop it back closer to 8* next time out. Factory settings were 8* and -3 roll. Where were you at?

[BillyJack]

I don't use AutoWake. I fill everything 100% full and try to adjust the pitch and roll moving people or bags. I didn't check the pitch and roll last time out but when I have checked it in the past it has been a bit high in the 9.5 to 11.0 degree range depending on where people are sitting and Roll is -1 to -3 degrees. It's just super frustrating....the Axis is so easy, fill ballast, turn on the surf gate, set the cruise and hit the throttle and it always produces a fun wave no matter where people choose to sit. The surf tab system on our Mojo is finicky, inconsistent, and definitely not repeatable.

Have you been able to produce a wave that's anywhere close to your friends Malibu/Axis?

[larry_arizona]

Curious why you don’t use autowake? At minimum use it to tell you exactly what Moomba recommends for pitch and roll then tweak from there.

Always amazed at how owners just poo poo it without understanding it.

Autowake is an awesome tool once you understand what it’s telling you.

But at least fill 100% then turn on autowake and see the pitch and roll targets it wants.

Also no matter what, get the wakeplate under 25%

Just don’t let your Malibu buddies get in your ear about what works on their boats. Moomba boats pitch and roll are nothing like the nose high Malibu’s.

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[sleek98]

I don't use AutoWake. I fill everything 100% full and try to adjust the pitch and roll moving people or bags. I didn't check the pitch and roll last time out but when I have checked it in the past it has been a bit high in the 9.5 to 11.0 degree range depending on where people are sitting and Roll is -1 to -3 degrees. It's just super frustrating....the Axis is so easy, fill ballast, turn on the surf gate, set the cruise and hit the throttle and it always produces a fun wave no matter where people choose to sit. The surf tab system on our Mojo is finicky, inconsistent, and definitely not repeatable.

Have you been able to produce a wave that's anywhere close to your friends Malibu/Axis?

I think you need to bring the nose down as I have been told the Moombas use the whole hull to make the wake vs just the ass end of the boat. I would move 100 out of each rear locker and throw it up in the bow and see how it feels. The factory setting is 8* so I would shoot for there and adjust up to your liking.

[Josh828]

Unfortunately I don’t have a good picture of my wave since I figured it out however I’ll try to get one to compare. I believe my wave is the same height and way longer than a 2019 Malibu 23lsv however this wave had incredible push and was super easy to ride. Again stock ballast just a large crew is my set up. Flow 2.0. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210527/9b52775c89ffc79506baac25696c0b4a.jpg

[sleek98]

What pitch and roll did you end up with Josh? and how many people?

[Josh828]

What pitch and roll did you end up with Josh? and how many people?

9.5-10.5 pitch -1 roll regular 3 roll goofy
10 people in the boat


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[sleek98]

9.5-10.5 pitch -1 roll regular 3 roll goofy
10 people in the boat


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Thanks, I guess the nose being that high doesnt hurt as much as I thought it would.

[Josh828]

Thanks, I guess the nose being that high doesnt hurt as much as I thought it would.

I thought 9.5 was the goal actually, and constantly hearing we need to get the nose up from everyone who thinks they know something smh
That picture is the 19 Malibu 23lsv btw

[Prospersigman]

I like pitch 9 roll 1 to-1 for regular, my wave is consistent and I know what its going to do everytime. I turn on Autowake to check my pitch and roll once everything is loaded up and I am at surf speed. I move people to maintain my pitch and roll since I fill everything 100% with 850lbs of lead in the boat.

[sleek98]

I thought 9.5 was the goal actually, and constantly hearing we need to get the nose up from everyone who thinks they know something smh
That picture is the 19 Malibu 23lsv btw

Factory setting shoots for 8. Wake9 said he shoots for 9.5 for more push due to his weight, but also says it shortens it up when you go that high. I was shooting for 9 my last time out.

[stevo]

29730 Almost got all the stereo in

[larry_arizona]

29730 Almost got all the stereo in

Love the color match, those will rock


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[HFarr]

What?! What did you say?! What?! LOL! Get used to that. 4 of those 10's on the Tower are going to really put the decibels out thar! You should play some Top Gun sound tracks as you do a fly by on somebody's dock!!

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[Josh828]

What?! What did you say?! What?! LOL! Get used to that. 4 of those 10's on the Tower are going to really put the decibels out thar! You should play some Top Gun sound tracks as you do a fly by on somebody's dock!!

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I have 2 and everyone hates them. I think they sound great blasting from the captains chair. Everyone in the back apparently had hearing damage
I would almost turn two forwards but 4 in a row look sweet


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[Josh828]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210528/82adc8975f4f09c3762e3be827850e38.jpg
My tint/detail/vinyl guy hooked me up before the weekend, worked on it till almost 8 last night but only charged me $325 which I thought was very fair

[mojoylw]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210528/82adc8975f4f09c3762e3be827850e38.jpg
My tint/detail/vinyl guy hooked me up before the weekend, worked on it till almost 8 last night but only charged me $325 which I thought was very fair

That is a great price, up in Canada I’m getting quoted around the 1500 mark


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[cozilla]

Josh what did you go with for the tint? Looks like 5%. I need to get this done on my all black Mojo soon.

[korey]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210528/82adc8975f4f09c3762e3be827850e38.jpg
My tint/detail/vinyl guy hooked me up before the weekend, worked on it till almost 8 last night but only charged me $325 which I thought was very fair

Damn that's a good looking ride. And I usually don't like red boats!

[Josh828]

Yeah this guy is my go to for years he will probably come out on the boat at some point so might reflect the price, but yes 5%, only tint I use haha wrapped the whole truck in it expect for 50% on the windshield.
And it really brought the red and black all together the clear glass wasn’t doing the red any favors

[HFarr]

That really does look sharp. I may have to follow your lead on that one.

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[Josh828]

That really does look sharp. I may have to follow your lead on that one.

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I’ll grab some pics of the inside looking out tomorrow should be out for a night ride at some point this weekend that will be the real test


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[Folsom-local]

Hi guys. I am excited for my Mojo to arrive. It is supposed to spray in June. It will be the popular Pacific Blue similar to the recent posts/builds on this thread. The blue on the interior looks so good!

My question relates to bow steps. My dealer said they are not an option for the Mojo trailer. Has anyone added bow steps to their boat mate trailer with the Mojo? I would love this option for solo launching.

[mgswake]

Hi guys. I am excited for my Mojo to arrive. It is supposed to spray in June. It will be the popular Pacific Blue similar to the recent posts/builds on this thread. The blue on the interior looks so good!

My question relates to bow steps. My dealer said they are not an option for the Mojo trailer. Has anyone added bow steps to their boat mate trailer with the Mojo? I would love this option for solo launching.

Someone posted on Facebook, these are the steps they used. https://easystepsystem.com/

Check the Facebook group if you are on there.

[HFarr]

On May 21st. Search for the topic Adding Bow Steps. Lots of information there. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210529/04ea2c5a462c403e4adcf15b48098dda.jpg

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[sleek98]

Pulled the rear bag and did some measurements. It appears the rear bags are 1,250# each and the front would then be 1,500# to make up the 4,000 total.

Dimensions were 22 high 36 long and 20 wide body and 61 long 20 wide and 9 high on the arm that goes up under the midship subfloor.

You can add approx 9-10” of height if you take out the rear bin and leave a vent hose on the top. I assumed the bag was 24” wide earlier when I was hoping for 350-400# per side. However you are only adding 200-250 per side if maxed out every inch of height. These would run you 1,300 with fittings etc, this doesn’t seem cost effective to me. You would be better off running lead for the 500#

If you wanted to just add a small bag on top of the current bag it would gain you 165-175# each side and to me is not worth the cost of $600.

If you throw another midship bag on top of the floor under the seats you can squeeze an instock 60x20x8 bag in there. However there is a seat support that runs right down the middle of the bag and it is 8.125” off the floor on mine so I would want to put some type of foam or rubber guard on it so it didn’t cut the bag. By doing that you could add 400# on each side for 159 each bag. Or do a custom bag that is that would add 325-350# it would run 260 each bag but you wouldn’t have to worry about the seat support rubbing the bag, or you just don’t fill the 8” bag completely full.

Cost wise I think adding the midship bag is the best route as you can add 750-800# for under $400. You could even plumb it in using the top of the rear bag or there are ports on the front of the arms under the subfloor that you can tie into. Downside is you lose that storage when surfing, I currently have 150# of lead there so I already have lost lost some storage there.

I am a little sad the rear can’t get you 350-400# per side but glad the factory used as much space as they did.

If you instead wanted to do a bag on the floor you could be as cheap as $175 for a bag and pump that would get you the same 800#

[BillyJack]

I sent skiers choice an email a couple of months ago regarding the size of the stock bag. Their response was "The standard rear bags for the 2021 Mojo weigh approximately 1350 lbs each. The dimensions are 103"x21.5"x24"." This doesn't make a lot sense since the we know the bags run underneath the seats. They also mentioned if you designed a custom bag and filled the rear locker completely you could get between 250lbs and 300lbs extra on each side.

[BillyJack]

1350 lbs equates to 162 gallons of water which required 37,474 cubic inches of volume.

[boating406]

Hi guys. I am excited for my Mojo to arrive. It is supposed to spray in June. It will be the popular Pacific Blue similar to the recent posts/builds on this thread. The blue on the interior looks so good!

My question relates to bow steps. My dealer said they are not an option for the Mojo trailer. Has anyone added bow steps to their boat mate trailer with the Mojo? I would love this option for solo launching.

I was worried about not having the steps but I dropped my truck tailgate and it worked great to step in to the boat.


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[sleek98]

I agree if you don’t use a top vent line you could get another 2 inches and you would be close to 300 each side. The cost to me is not worth it. Cheaper to get 600# of lead to throw back there.

[Hayden]

Sleek do you have your calcs on a spreadsheet or Google doc you can share? Im just about finished my 10hour burn in and I'll post some vids/pics tomorrow but I feel like there was way more space than 9" when I filled mine.

[sleek98]

Sleek do you have your calcs on a spreadsheet or Google doc you can share? Im just about finished my 10hour burn in and I'll post some vids/pics tomorrow but I feel like there was way more space than 9" when I filled mine.

No I don’t have it in a spread sheet. I did the measurements with the bag full. The bag is 1-2” below the rear tray, however there is a 1.5” lip that the bins sit in. The tray is 10” deep so that’s why I am thinking you will only get 9” before you hit the bottom lip. Could you get another 2”, likely however it wouldnt be the full 20” wide and I would be afraid of it rubbing through the bag on the lip.

We have 16 hours now. 500# of lead and 950# of people made an amazing wave today.

I reset the gauges as it was -.9 pitch and -3.4 roll while empty sitting on the water when it should have been 0/0. When I reset it the wave looked much better when I was hitting 9 pitch and -2 to -3 roll. It let my wife drop the rope now.

[sleek98]

So I am out on the water ans brought a tape measure to double check. I was wrong. You can get 15” easy. So that would be 400# a side. I’m going to try to get other bags to put back here.

[Hayden]

Here is a link to some short vids/pics I made showing pinch points and available space left on top (assuming you don't use bins). I don't quite understand why they made pinch/abrasion points for ballast bags like this. I would have expected smoother transitions between compartments.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ChBm7NqVY4fbjLUj9

I am going to try calling Wakemakers again tomorrow and see whether they've made any progress on scanning a 2021 Mojo. Ideally, I would get a bag made that in addition to filling up that 15" bin space, would also have a second leg that would fill in under the mid ship seating. 90% of our boat time is surfing so, if they can't make that, then I'll just grab new bags that will be permanently filled (for both mid ship and bow). Maybe plumb them in proper as a winter project. Hoping to keep my lead weight as minimal as possible (#500 or less).

Also noticed that the 2021 Mojo user manual states that the weight of fuel is accounted for in the boat weight already...we don't need to factor it in, (for my 2005 LSV it was excluded from boat weight). So that allows another #400 ballast to be added in.

[mojoylw]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210601/9e86eb858b8b91f356371e6d1c775856.jpg



https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210601/411c118a8ba39389fe4466da596637ee.jpg

Played around with the fat sacs a bit tonight, and got the surd dialed in. Can’t figure out how to post a video, but i got it cleaned up after messing with the settings.

I know this setup isn’t ideal for everyone, but when its me and my girlfriend going for a quick surf at night its perfect.

[sleek98]

That looks awesome. 750 sac in the middle and 2 400s? That’s about right weight wise. What was your pitch and roll?

[Prospersigman]

Why does the boat look like it is listed so much? What were your pitch and roll numbers? The beauty of the new Moombas and Supras is that you don't have to list the boat to produce a great wave. Maybe it is how the pictures were taken but it looks like you have that boat listed way over on the surf side.

[HFarr]

Did you say surf at night? Can you do that there?

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[mojoylw]

My best surf the pitch and roll was 9.0 and -1.5

surf plate at 40 Smart plate 15 at 10.8mph


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[Hayden]

I know this setup isn’t ideal for everyone, but when its me and my girlfriend going for a quick surf at night its perfect.

This is something I noticed as well - we only had 1 driver (180 lbs) and 1 child (70 lbs) and me (170 lbs) surfing. Only stock ballast (4000 lbs). We recalibrated the inclinometer and did about 2 hours of testing using autowake by itself and then contrasting that to manually filling the bags to 100%, having autowake off and just adjusting the plates manually. The "autowake on" wave was glorious, perfect face, a beauty to behold but it hardly had any push and was, for all intents, unsurfable. It also drained bow bag to 50% and non-surf side bag to 75% to achieve its pitch/roll numbers. The autowake off, all bags forced to 100% wave, had good push and I would say was very similar to my old 2005 LSV wave in many respects, totally surfable but no where near as clean.

It's said almost daily on this forum, "Moomba's need more weight" but I gotta say, I thought it would be easier to ride autowake stock with such a light crew.


Just some initial impressions. I've watched the 3 vid's on it from Moomba and read all of the stuff that Goose posted on it but like I said - beginner Autowake guy at the helm here, still learning the system.

(Protip - stuff the boat cover in between the v-drive hatch and back seat to add some cheap sound dampening!)

[SONIC]

Just grab a tape measure and measure the space you want the bag to fit into. No need to wait for wakemakers to scan one (they probably use a tape measure too).
There are also cheaper options for custom bags from flyhigh.

[sleek98]

Just grab a tape measure and measure the space you want the bag to fit into. No need to wait for wakemakers to scan one (they probably use a tape measure too).
There are also cheaper options for custom bags from flyhigh.

Have a link? I found https://www.fatsac.com/custom that make custom sacs, but if there is a third option I would like to reach out to them as well.

[SONIC]

MLA on here can get them for you, I got mine for my last boat full custom from him.

[RC_Hinojosa]

Just grab a tape measure and measure the space you want the bag to fit into. No need to wait for wakemakers to scan one (they probably use a tape measure too).


....they use a LiDAR scanner for the exact fit bags.

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[SONIC]

Seems very unnecessary but they charge enough to justify the expense :D

[sleek98]

MLA on here can get them for you, I got mine for my last boat full custom from him.

Thanks,

I will shoot him a PM. I sent off a quote form to Fatsac with my measurements, but the designer is on vacation so hopefully I will hear something next week.

[mojoylw]

7-10pm on weeknight is perfect time, water is like glass, not many people on the lake and here in kelowna it was 26 Celsius(80f) at 8pm last night

[HFarr]

7-10pm on weeknight is perfect time, water is like glass, not many people on the lake and here in kelowna it was 26 Celsius(80f) at 8pm last nightOkay. Now I see. You are in part of the region where the daylight never really leaves this time of year! Awesome.

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[Dank]

Ok... so now for the real question... does anyone know how to set the freaking clock on this thing? I've checked every menu under the sun! ��

[Dank]

Also.. Not having ANY success with autowake..

Trying to mirror the wake 9 pitch and roll settings (9 and -1.5) and it's dumping ballast non surf side and front like crazy.. like front is down to 50%.. results in a very pretty wave with zero push... beyond frustrated with it.

Yes, additional lead, yes, had a big crew.

Coming from a 18' Max that had an awesome wave and no autowake. If we could at least get it that good I'd be happy. I know it needs to be dialed in.. but so far no bueno. Getting seriously concerned.

All advanced, experienced surfers, we know what we are taking about .. so it's not beginners saying "no push"...

I guess next time we'll go old school and try without autowake and just go from there.

Is anyone having success with it at all on the mojo?? :mad:

[Bigs28]

If it's dumping from the bow then move your lead to the rear.

My mojo was originally supposed to be completed may, then June 1st, now today im told June 8th. Im more nervous then excited from all the poor reviews.

[dakota4ce]

Fill everything 100%, and have 1000# of lead. Day one. Move the lead until you’re running 9.5 nose up, and enough list to clean it up at 11.4 and wakeplate zero with the surf plate on 60-70.

We need to see a good wave out of someone soon!


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[BillyJack]

I have been frustrated with my 2021 Mojo surf wave since picking it up in March. The past weekend we had a break through that I probably should have noticed early but I'm a newbie and just didn't have the knowledge. The ballast bags had ALOT of air in them and I had not vented them so I was not getting anywhere close to full 4000 lbs of ballast. Looking back on it this was very obvious as the motor really wasn't working as hard as it should have been. So I vented the bags, ran the pumps until they shut off, the fill timer for the pumps was not long enough, so I turned the pumps off and back on to keep filling the bags (did this several times as the pumps kept shutting off for some reason) until they where really firm and full of water and overflowed out the sides of the boat.
So now with a full ballast load, about 550lbs of people in the boat, and 1300 lbs of lead (250lbs under each rear bag, 250lbs just under seat just underneath the tower on each side, and 300lbs evenly distributed in the bow. Surfed on the port side with wake plate between 0 and 20 and surf tab at 40 with speed set at 11.2 mph the wave had a pushy pocket in the front of the wave, was sorta dead in the middle of the wave, and had another pushy pocket in the back of the wave which was nice to help recover (even with my lack of surfing skill). The wave was very surfable and fun and with adding another 500 to 600 lbs of ballast with the custom rear bags I think the wave will be fantastic....close to the amazing A24 and Supreme 232 surf waves that I've surfed.

[BillyJack]

Also...no AutoWake. I set everything manually.

[RC_Hinojosa]

Also.. Not having ANY success with autowake..

Trying to mirror the wake 9 pitch and roll settings (9 and -1.5) and it's dumping ballast non surf side and front like crazy.. like front is down to 50%.. results in a very pretty wave with zero push... beyond frustrated with it.

Yes, additional lead, yes, had a big crew.

Coming from a 18' Max that had an awesome wave and no autowake. If we could at least get it that good I'd be happy. I know it needs to be dialed in.. but so far no bueno. Getting seriously concerned.

All advanced, experienced surfers, we know what we are taking about .. so it's not beginners saying "no push"...

I guess next time we'll go old school and try without autowake and just go from there.

Is anyone having success with it at all on the mojo?? :mad:Fill all your ballast 100%, turn on Autowake and use static mode to shift your lead till you hit your pitch and roll settings.

Turn off Autowake.

Fine tune with speed and surf tab. At this point you should be slammed and with AW off, there is no dumping of ballast.



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[Dank]

I like the sound of that approach... will try next time I'm out.



Fill all your ballast 100%, turn on Autowake and use static mode to shift your lead till you hit your pitch and roll settings.

Turn off Autowake.

Fine tune with speed and surf tab. At this point you should be slammed and with AW off, there is no dumping of ballast.



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[sleek98]

I have been frustrated with my 2021 Mojo surf wave since picking it up in March. The past weekend we had a break through that I probably should have noticed early but I'm a newbie and just didn't have the knowledge. The ballast bags had ALOT of air in them and I had not vented them so I was not getting anywhere close to full 4000 lbs of ballast. Looking back on it this was very obvious as the motor really wasn't working as hard as it should have been. So I vented the bags, ran the pumps until they shut off, the fill timer for the pumps was not long enough, so I turned the pumps off and back on to keep filling the bags (did this several times as the pumps kept shutting off for some reason) until they where really firm and full of water and overflowed out the sides of the boat.
So now with a full ballast load, about 550lbs of people in the boat, and 1300 lbs of lead (250lbs under each rear bag, 250lbs just under seat just underneath the tower on each side, and 300lbs evenly distributed in the bow. Surfed on the port side with wake plate between 0 and 20 and surf tab at 40 with speed set at 11.2 mph the wave had a pushy pocket in the front of the wave, was sorta dead in the middle of the wave, and had another pushy pocket in the back of the wave which was nice to help recover (even with my lack of surfing skill). The wave was very surfable and fun and with adding another 500 to 600 lbs of ballast with the custom rear bags I think the wave will be fantastic....close to the amazing A24 and Supreme 232 surf waves that I've surfed.

Sounds awesome. If you pull the rear panel of the locker (4 screws) you can slide the sensor up the vent tube so it won’t shut off the pumps as quick. It won’t stop the need to manually vent the bag but Atleast will stop the need to keep flipping the switch on and off.

https://i.postimg.cc/jq7wWRgH/A0078-B7-D-B7-AE-4-CC7-BFE3-0-C5-C1-B18-C3-C7.jpg (https://postimg.cc/0r92F1qj)

That’s with the sensor moved up quite a bit. It was closer to the pumps from the factory.

[Hayden]

For 2021 Mojo, (or any Moomba/Supra with the LCD's), would love to see a picture of a wave and then an accompanying picture of the settings from the LCD as a point of reference. Gives others a good idea of where you were at with tabs/wakeplate/speed/pitch/roll/amplitude/etc., all at a glance.

Specifically would be interested to see some shots of people able to get their potential and actual amplitude to 100%.

https://imgur.com/g6h9KaA.jpg

[mojoylw]

Ok... so now for the real question... does anyone know how to set the freaking clock on this thing? I've checked every menu under the sun! ��

Clock is under map settings adjust gmt to your time zone

Took me a while to find it too


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[Josh828]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210602/75286cf88a9927c7a0a394a514b7fda0.jpg
Picture looks terrible but wave is waist high at least, grabbed this picture Memorial Day as soon as we got in the water, but it was to crowded to do any surfing (I think I swamped a few people just getting a few pictures) o

[HFarr]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210602/75286cf88a9927c7a0a394a514b7fda0.jpg
Picture looks terrible but wave is waist high at least, grabbed this picture Memorial Day as soon as we got in the water, but it was to crowded to do any surfing (I think I swamped a few people just getting a few pictures) oMan! That wave looks like its a mile long!! That's awesome!

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[Dank]

Josh - we had a great looking wave like that as well.. kids (less than 100lbs) surfed it and it was good. Until the adults surfed it - not good at all.. zero push.

What were your settings?


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210602/75286cf88a9927c7a0a394a514b7fda0.jpg
Picture looks terrible but wave is waist high at least, grabbed this picture Memorial Day as soon as we got in the water, but it was to crowded to do any surfing (I think I swamped a few people just getting a few pictures) o

[Josh828]

Josh - we had a great looking wave like that as well.. kids (less than 100lbs) surfed it and it was good. Until the adults surfed it - not good at all.. zero push.

What were your settings?

I actually ride goofy side and the wave is very clean and tall, I’ve been surfing two weeks now but I can stay in the pocket easily and recover pretty well. Still holding the rope for moral support only. I also have rode several boards and I think some have a lot more float/push than others But

Pitch 9.5
Roll -1 or 3 for goofy
10.8mph or 11.5 for goofy
Wake plate zero
Tabs have been at 90 on both sides haven’t had enough time to adjust them lately
Either I’m riding or teaching people how to ride lately
My crew is always about 10-12 but no lead just stock
My lake is also 60’ deep in most places and I keep the boat full of gas. Bled the rear bags and agree tons of air! Haven’t done the front bag yet

Trying to get a reasonable crew out one evening during the week with some of my friends that already own a boat to surf and feel the push to really tune the wave in but it’s rideable for sure

[Josh828]

For 2021 Mojo, (or any Moomba/Supra with the LCD's), would love to see a picture of a wave and then an accompanying picture of the settings from the LCD as a point of reference. Gives others a good idea of where you were at with tabs/wakeplate/speed/pitch/roll/amplitude/etc., all at a glance.

Specifically would be interested to see some shots of people able to get their potential and actual amplitude to 100%.

https://imgur.com/g6h9KaA.jpg

Also mine usually will show about 1/4 way into the top section. I’ve not been using auto wake however and after a while it shows the bars all the way at the bottom as if it has given up haha


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[sleek98]

Dank have you checked your pitch and roll with nothing in the boat? I had to reset mine to zero, they were showing -.9 and -3.x when sitting in the water with no lead/people. After resetting mine it helped a bunch.

[Hayden]

Dank have you checked your pitch and roll with nothing in the boat? I had to reset mine to zero, they were showing -.9 and -3.x when sitting in the water with no lead/people. After resetting mine it helped a bunch.

I also had to do this. My roll was off by 1.5 degree, pitch by 1 degree. In the 3 part Autowake tutorial video's they walk you through how to do it, (resetting inclinometer is in the 3rd video but all are worthwhile watching).

Part 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVueG9JaD4c

Part 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sri1pLtsjtc

Part 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btq6hr04nLs

[Hayden]

If you haven't seen it, here's Goose's tips all summarized into a 16 page pdf for some light reading.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15YdphBdk-f4sHpkRfnRij2qDsWrAYBr9/view

[sleek98]

If you haven't seen it, here's Goose's tips all summarized into a 16 page pdf for some light reading.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15YdphBdk-f4sHpkRfnRij2qDsWrAYBr9/view

Great read. A lot of information in there. Biggest take away I get from that is your not going to have a great wave without a decent chunk of weight over stock. It seems to me that the people who are saying its a great wave have more than 2,000# over the stock ballast. Wake9s review had 1,000 in lead and 7 adults in the boat. assuming that is 2,200ish#. Josh said he had 10-12 people, assuming all adults and a mix of guys and girls that would be close to 1,800 to 2,000 pounds of people and gear.

Does anyone know if the flow3 works without using autowake? When I had the boat on the lift I kicked the surf side on and the surf tab deployed but I dont remember if the corner plate kicked down.

[Hayden]

Does anyone know if the flow3 works without using autowake? When I had the boat on the lift I kicked the surf side on and the surf tab deployed but I dont remember if the corner plate kicked down.

All I know about the flow3 plates is that you cannot manually control them, they are automatically adjusted by the software, at specific times, based on....reasons :p

[Bigs28]

Great read. A lot of information in there. Biggest take away I get from that is your not going to have a great wave without a decent chunk of weight over stock. It seems to me that the people who are saying its a great wave have more than 2,000# over the stock ballast. Wake9s review had 1,000 in lead and 7 adults in the boat. assuming that is 2,200ish#. Josh said he had 10-12 people, assuming all adults and a mix of guys and girls that would be close to 1,800 to 2,000 pounds of people and gear.

Does anyone know if the flow3 works without using autowake? When I had the boat on the lift I kicked the surf side on and the surf tab deployed but I dont remember if the corner plate kicked down.

Really not encouraging since my wife and 5 year old will be the only ones in the boat most of the time. The boat should surf stock with empty crew and only get better with weight. Not gonna like it if i HAVE to spend more money on lead to have a rideable surf wave.

[Josh828]

Really not encouraging since my wife and 5 year old will be the only ones in the boat most of the time. The boat should surf stock with empty crew and only get better with weight. Not gonna like it if i HAVE to spend more money on lead to have a rideable surf wave.

Trust me it’s not because with a crew of 12-14 you don’t get to surf yourself. Much less get everyone to stay still long enough to set up a wave.
Then if I do buy 1000+ lbs of lead I feel like I’ll sink the boat if I load to many people on it.. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210602/d46b3f2e93859e90c6122035c894a193.jpg

[sleek98]

Really not encouraging since my wife and 5 year old will be the only ones in the boat most of the time. The boat should surf stock with empty crew and only get better with weight. Not gonna like it if i HAVE to spend more money on lead to have a rideable surf wave.

I am a new rider, and I am sure if I had some more skill it would be rideable, but you are going to want more weight, esp after you see how it is with an extra 1k pounds. How much weight is up to you. From reading the pdf that was attached, I should have stayed near the stock settings. Go out and give it a try before ordering any. I am wondering if us changing settings too much to get to the 9 pitch and -2 roll were messing it up more than helping.

I know our sales guy (alot more skill than my wife and I) said that he thought the wave was useable with just stock ballast and 4 people in the boat.

[j.mo]

Trust me it’s not because with a crew of 12-14 you don’t get to surf yourself. Much less get everyone to stay still long enough to set up a wave.
Then if I do buy 1000+ lbs of lead I feel like I’ll sink the boat if I load to many people on it.. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210602/d46b3f2e93859e90c6122035c894a193.jpg

Ain’t no way a gaggle of 14 is coming on my boat.
6 people.


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[Hayden]

Really not encouraging since my wife and 5 year old will be the only ones in the boat most of the time. The boat should surf stock with empty crew and only get better with weight. Not gonna like it if i HAVE to spend more money on lead to have a rideable surf wave.


I know our sales guy (alot more skill than my wife and I) said that he thought the wave was useable with just stock ballast and 4 people in the boat.

Especially true if you are riding regular (port side). In my experience, there is a HUGE difference between just driver + child and then driver + 2x adult passengers. Way more of a difference than going from 2 passengers to 4 passengers. I'd guess you have to overcome 2x the driver's weight when surfing regular to get enough push to feel stable. Easier for goofy riders who get the driver's weight.

[HFarr]

Ok... How many people want to go surf with Josh828 now! [emoji1]

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[Dank]

Yeah,

I definitely have to do this... thinking my inclinometer isn't right..
It's going to suck pulling all the lead out of it just to reset it and then have to put it all back In afterward... but whatever it takes.. something isn't right. They should have done this during the lake test.. but who knows maybe not.. skiers choice rep said you can leave the lead in midship lockers while calibrating, but I'm gonna do it by the book (video) just to be sure.

My buddies new 21 SA had similar issues.. it was calibrated during the lake test, but after the first time surfing it definitely wasn't right... the dealership came out surfing and adjusted the Inclinometer, pitch roll offsets, surf plate offsets, cycled/calibrated ballast sensors and all was good after that... makes an absolutely Insane wave now.

I'm either going to have them come out or just have them look at it at the 20 hour service. Might just use manual old school settings until then.

Frustrated, for sure.. but hoping it gets sorted out.



Dank have you checked your pitch and roll with nothing in the boat? I had to reset mine to zero, they were showing -.9 and -3.x when sitting in the water with no lead/people. After resetting mine it helped a bunch.

[BillyJack]

I had similar issues with my inclinometer which I also figure out after I had my boat loaded with lead. I parked my boat and trailer on a level parking area, disconnected the trailer from the truck, and used a level (in the middle of the floor next to the driver's seat) to verify the boat was level front to back and side to side. Then I calibrated the inclinometer. Worked pretty well and I didn't have to unpack and re-pack a 1000+ lbs of lead.

[2in2out]

Yeah,

I definitely have to do this... thinking my inclinometer isn't right..
It's going to suck pulling all the lead out of it just to reset it and then have to put it all back In afterward... but whatever it takes.. something isn't right. They should have done this during the lake test.. but who knows maybe not.. skiers choice rep said you can leave the lead in midship lockers while calibrating, but I'm gonna do it by the book (video)


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[2in2out]

Yeah,

I definitely have to do this... thinking my inclinometer isn't right..
It's going to suck pulling all the lead out of it just to reset it and then have to put it all back In afterward... but whatever it takes.. something isn't right. They should have done this during the lake test.. but who knows maybe not.. skiers choice rep said you can leave the lead in midship lockers while calibrating, but I'm gonna do it by the book (video) just to be sure.

My buddies new 21 SA had similar issues.. it was calibrated during the lake test, but after the first time surfing it definitely wasn't right... the dealership came out surfing and adjusted the Inclinometer, pitch roll offsets, surf plate offsets, cycled/calibrated ballast sensors and all was good after that... makes an absolutely Insane wave now.

I'm either going to have them come out or just have them look at it at the 20 hour service. Might just use manual old school settings until then.

Frustrated, for sure.. but hoping it gets sorted out.


My thoughts are that you should recal as used.

As used (everything in its normal place) would have the better integration with the gimble and provide true pitch and roll as we have equipment that is resident on the boat. People and their cargo get adjusted for by the system.

If you unload or re-apportion any distributed weight it will effect your baseline when you put it back to where it “normally” resides. The mean of fuel weight would be half full. I would argue that the primary driver should also be sitting in the drivers seat. I have certain objects on the starboard side to offset driver weight. This is the boat’s at use distribution.

The reason you would not fill ballast during the recal is that the ballast is what is being distributed to accomplish pitch and roll values, and because the baseline is used by all modes (I.e. surf 1 & 2, wake, return to dock, etc. ), not all modes use ballast at or near the median of the capacity.

I know SC’s videos on recal say empty, but I think there may be oversight in laden, in-use, weight and distribution characteristics that may not be being realized by a system calibrated to unladen weight and no distribution.


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[Faheem416]

current mojo has 100 beam

[Holdmybeer]

current mojo has 100 beam

Its 102.

Get off our site with your spam.....

[zabooda]

There was a good explanation by the Moomba Development Manager in 2017.

https://forum.moomba.com/showthread.php?30060-AutoWake-questions/page2

[sleek98]

I reached out to skiers choice, they said the rear bag as 102" long, 21.5" wide the front arm is 15" tall and the rear body is 24" tall. That is a couple inches off each way from me trying to measure, but plugging that into the wake makers calc its showing 1,562# bag, assuming a 36" rear compartment. That makes more sense that they are 1500# bags in the rear and 1,000# up front. rather than 1,250 rears and 1,500 up front.

I scored another 500# of lead from a local seller for $375 so I may skip the custom rear bags now that I will have 1,650# of additional ballast. 1,000# of lead and 650# of additional midship bags. All in on the weight for me is about $1,300 bucks.

[Dank]

So.... bottom line - has anyone produced a good wave with the mojo besides Wake 9?

Getting really concerned.

[Holdmybeer]

So.... bottom line - has anyone produced a good wave with the mojo besides Wake 9?

Getting really concerned.

Go to the June 2021 Pic thread and checkout Blay's photo....setup looks pretty good on a 2021 Mojo

[Josh828]

So.... bottom line - has anyone produced a good wave with the mojo besides Wake 9?

Getting really concerned.

Y'all really about to make me take off work early tomorrow..

Im pretty happy with my wave. Not happy with my photographer skills. Or lack of co pilot to steer the boat while I try to take a picture haha

[Bigs28]

Take off work early but go without your normal 10-12 person crew :).

[RC_Hinojosa]

So.... bottom line - has anyone produced a good wave with the mojo besides Wake 9?

Getting really concerned.This should be a non-issue.

Your dealer's delivery captain should have taken you out and gotten you dialed in.



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[sleek98]

This should be a non-issue.

Your dealer's delivery captain should have taken you out and gotten you dialed in.

I am having my 25 hour service done on the 18th, I am going to ask them to run out with me and see if we can dial it in, since he has surfed a mojo already I’m hoping he can show me pretty quickly.

Downside of having the first delivered mojo and picking it up at the end of November.

[Josh828]

Well guys first big uh oh for the new boat.. Not terrible for my first boat however easily avoidable..

went for the first night ride and got out of the water super late. Thought I was all ready to trailer home however forgot the Bimini was still up.
Long slow drive back to main road then got to almost 60mph when it hit me like a light bulb. Got a friend to stick out the window and sure enough he said it was flapping pretty bad.
Pulled over however it had already destroyed it.

The Front bars are bent back. The middle bar which pushes up is gone MIA. The fabric has one seam ripped near the rope hook up on top of the tower but otherwise is fine.

Looking into just getting the replacement bars for it or just ordering an aftermarket Bimini... Have already talked to sew long a little bit but any other suggestions?

Sewlong acted as if 60mph wouldn't phase their Bimini and frankly I'm a little disappointed they would put a Bimini on it that couldn't. I mean 60mph for a boat isn't unheard of especially if you considered cross winds when going 40mph.

[arsnlgunnr]

Ah man, that sucks!

Considering the boats top speed is 38, I wouldn’t expect the majority of the hardware holding the deployed bimini in place to survive a constant strong wind especially with the different directions and speeds coming off the back of the truck. Hope you can find a replacement to keep all those coeds in your crew from getting sun burned [emoji6]


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