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Originally Posted by TheMirror
Lol.... it is a friend of mine who just bought a Max a few weeks ago.... he asked a couple of questions about setups several pages back in this thread.
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Originally Posted by TheMirror
Lol.... it is a friend of mine who just bought a Max a few weeks ago.... he asked a couple of questions about setups several pages back in this thread.
I don’t have any great wave angle pics, but the rider is 5’11” for reference.
Sorry, it won’t let me upload pics
Any other way to share?
I’m trying to upload to my YouTube channel right now but it won’t upload either.... I’m working on it.
https://youtu.be/iMZPewrpiw8
This is the only vid I have from the last outing, I will try to get some footage this weekend
Nice! Do you recall how fast you were going?
Speed in the vid was 12mph.... we actually got the wave quite a bit better (cleaner, longer, and a little taller) as the day progressed but this was the only vid I took with my phone. It seemed to like 12.3 for speed this day. It is a delicate balance between speed and center tab.....the faster I went, the less center tab I could run and achieve a clean wave....ultimately we would like to get to less than 15% on the center tab.... less tab, taller wave with push!Quote:
Originally Posted by z28ke
So finally got the Max. What a monster! So tall and roomy. We really like it so far but only had about 15 minutes left to play with this weekend due to a late delivery of the boat other family activities. I must say the wave can be an absolute monster in size and really looks good; however, I have to learn what settings will help me achieve more push/power from the back of the wave. I *literally* have played with it for 15 minutes, so while I am sure the potential is there; I need to learn how to fix this!
My current ballast setup is:
rear locker : 1100lbs each side
under mid-seats: 950lbs each side
stock belly: 1100lbs
bow: single 725lbs IBS (u-shaped), will likely upgrade to 2x370lbs at end of season
total weight: 5925lbs. (can't add lead since this thing is in a boat lift)
Settings (with 4 adults in the boat):
- fully loaded (with a little less weight offside +-10-15%)
- speed: 10.8
- center tab: 0%
- surf plate: 75%
Which of these parameters will allow me to dial in more push/power? Weight placement? more list? plates? speed?
I would back down the surf plate as much as you can. The more it is deployed the more it will creat lift on the back is the boat hitting the power is the wave.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMirror
I personally like 11mph +
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Just to make sure I understand, we are referring to the surf plate on the surfer side right? (i.e. the one controlled from the screen, not the stick on the side of steering wheel)? It usually comes out of the box at 60 for regular and 70 for goofy? What do you have it set at usually?Quote:
Originally Posted by Boonejeepin
Also: not sure I understand what you mean about the boat hitting the power is the wave, what do you mean by that?
Thanks a lot!
Wow-my auto correct totally botched my message.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMirror
I am referring to the surf plates on each side (controlled on the screen) and not the wake plate in the middle (stick on the steering column). I run the surf plate at 45 for regular and 50 for goofy.
Try to only deploy the surf plates as far down (larger # on the screen) as possible. The more the tab is deployed the more lift is created at the back of the boat taking away push/power. Deploy it only far enough to get the wave cleaned up.
That is my preference.
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Ok now i got it !
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I'm excited that I will be picking up a new 2019 Max in November. The dealer will install Wakemakers rear / midship ballast but I know the bow still needs more. Has anyone successfully added bags to the front by tapping into the subfloor bow ballast bag or are you having to fill those manually? I would prefer not to use lead b/c I'm on a lift but since I will likely have to increase my lift's capacity anyway (old boat had 3900# dry weight) that may be the easier option since I won't lose storage. Whatever option I go with has to be easy and not be seen so I keep the wife happy :-).
Congrats on your new boat and I think you are going to love the additional rear and mid ship ballast once you get it. Before you get too crazy with modifying the front ballast, you should first see how the additional weight in the rear and mid helps. Especially the mid ship ballast. If you only added the additional weight in the rear, then you are correct, you would need more weight in the front. But I think the wakemakers kit you are talking about only adds a little in the rear, with the majority of the extra weight being in the mid ship. It is closer to the center of gravity, so I doubt you will need to add to the front. Keep us posted and congrats again on your boat.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmk4312
Thanks Matt. I will definitely let you know. Really excited and just sucks that it will be too cold to try until May. Oh well.
One of the only options I didn't order was the heater and it was partly b/c of location. I want to have a 3 output heater with one vent always on the driver and then two heat tubes to go to kids in the boat. Has anyone done a Heatercraft install on the Max? Was thinking of mounting the primary unit in front of the driver near the sub.
IMO Keep the front for storage. I do run some lead up there on occasion (can fit 300 in the nose, hate leaving it there because of all the tongue weight and air suspension on the tow vehicle....granted I tow only 300 feet each way), but with all the extra weight midship I feel like I can surf plenty far back with tons of push with only a driver in the boat. When we have a lot of people in the boat the wave is almost too monstrous and I just speed it up to close to 12mph and that usually keeps it from being a wall of steep water. Basically, try what you got, more than likely you will be well pleased without having to give up front storage.Quote:
Originally Posted by goose
I’ll be taking delivery of a max sometime in November. My current plan for ballast is adding 1k of lead midship in addition to the stock. Storage is a huge factor for us because we take a ton of stuff out with us so hoping to avoid bags under the seats. I figure if 1k isn’t enough I can add another 500 up front with IBS if needed.
Any thought from current owners on that plan? Any input is appreciated
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Keep the tank filled as well ( roughly 600-700lbs of fuel ballast :) ). Think you will have a very surf-able wave with that much weight. I have an estimated 2000 over factory and its great...had 250 of lead and then went straight to the 2000 which produces great push with just a driver, though I imagine with that extra 1000 it will be a decent wave. Just like anything, titrate to effect :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by csm
Hello Matt,
I have the rear side locker trays in a 2019 Max. I take delivery in mid-Jan. I want to copy Boonejeepin's set up of 1280's in the rears and 720's under the side seat lockers. 1280's says they are 50" long x 25" wide x 25" tall.
Will I be able to keep the rear trays when 1280s are full?
The 720's list as 45" long x 20" wide x 20" tall. Will these fit snug in under the side seat storage?
Do you recommend any other configurations?
Just my opinion and nothing against Boonejeepin since his vids prove he has an amazing and failed wave, but I think your money would be better spent on something for front weight instead of 1280s in the back. No doubt it works great for Boonejeepin, but my stock rears with those same midship bags make a pushy wave with only a driver. Gets too big for beginners when we add people weight. Granted, my dealership gave me 350 of lead which I put 100 on top of the ledge between the rear and midships bilaterally and the other 150 in the nose. So if you only want water weight and don’t want the hassle of figuring out how to get it in the bow then the 1280s make sense.
Before I bought the 720 bags, I loaded up on lead, but now 400 of it is mostly used for putting on my cushions when towing far without the cover.
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Whoops. Forgot to say that yes those 720s are perfect. Probably 5 inches or so of height left when closed. Fills front to back perfect.
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