Read an article on the 2021 Tahoe and Suburban.
3.0 diesel option, but no real details on trans and rear end.
Nice looking ride.
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...tos-info-specs
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Read an article on the 2021 Tahoe and Suburban.
3.0 diesel option, but no real details on trans and rear end.
Nice looking ride.
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...tos-info-specs
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Helleva lift on that Z71 hoe.
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You guys do realize this says 5,261 kg right?Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
That's something like 11,000lbs without pulling out a calculator.
I think you're all fine towing with that hitch :rolleyes:
As to the original question.... I have a 13 FX4 with the Ecoboost and it is a beast towing. It out-tows the 3/4 tone 6.0 Gas Silverado I used to have hands down and no question out towed the Tahoe 5.3 I traded in for it all the while it gets well over 13mpg doing it. Besides it is loaded to the gills with heated/cooled seats, backup camera etc and in my opinion looks fantastic with the all painted bumpers etc. No chrome = Cool in 2019.
If I needed something to fit more passengers I would be all over a new Expedition with the Ecoboost. I am however interested in some of these new diesel options available on some of the half ton trucks out there!
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-Tyler
You might want to read that tag a little closer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tylerrnemt
When towing a boat, you use the “Weight Carrying” rating.
Using “weight distributing” gear on a boat would be impossible.
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Originally Posted by larry_arizona
Ohhh you’re totally right..... I did read that incorrectly! Thanks for clarifying!!
-Tyler
The new Z71 Tahoe and Suburban look great but will not come with the diesel. The lift is done with a new air ride system and an independent rear suspension. The non Z71 will be available with the diesel.
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Is it me, or after the KG number, doesn't it literally says the weight in pounds? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Tylerrnemt
It sure does! .... see post #45 lolQuote:
Originally Posted by KnoxMojo
I may have been drunk.... or tired .... or both when I first posted that! ;)
Hahaha.. was just wondering why you thought you needed a calculator, it was right there.. all good. This thread is good for people's knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tylerrnemt
Sorry I’m late to this one!
Don’t forget about the ol Excursion! I just bought my wife an 05 6.0 Limited to replace my ‘17 2500 Cummins (long story)... it’s rated to tow 11k, and has a good payload if you remember it’s basically an F250 underneath. The GVWR was neutered for soccer mom duties back in the day for insurance purposes.
They’re still out there, lots of lower mileage ones with decent prices, and creature comfort wise they’re not far off newer trucks. It checked all the boxes for us. Now I’ve just gotta learn how to work on a Powerstroke lol
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Anybody want some 22x12’s?!? Lol
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Big wheels/tires are a tow rating killer too.
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Love the excursion! Wish they still made them with the newer generation body styles and interiors. That one looks decent and i bet it willQuote:
Originally Posted by Broke Pilot
only get better once you’re done with it.
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Been looking at these. Did you buy a 6.0 with the motor work done? The internet has stories about once they are 'bullet-proofed' it is one of the best motors out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Broke Pilot
You are right - funny wheels.
Cool ride Broke, the Limited and Eddie have the nice interiors.
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So this one has 190k on factory head gaskets and bolts. I have the full service history, it was only worked on by Tomball ford it’s whole life. We’re the 2nd owner.
Yes, once they’re bullet proofed, it’s a great engine. Tuning back in the day was the big 6.0 killer, advanced timing is what lifted the heads. There’s much better stand alone tuning nowadays for factory 6.0’s. But this one has never been tuned, the HPOP and injectors were changed a few back and it’s got a coolant filtration system on it with the EGR deleted. I figure if it’s never had major surgery by now, I’m not gonna do anything to hurt it.
However, I do have $5k standing by just incase! Lol
Just change the oil every 5k miles, coolant every 2 years and it should run forever. The 6.0 was one of the best towing engines of all time.
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2nd owner on a 2005 with all service recs? Awesome.
I need to do some research on the prices depending on what work has been done. There is an 2004 6.0 Eddie near me asking 16k. Interior and exterior look good, not sure about the service, maintenance, or number of owners. Need to get more info.
Appears on the higher-end, but you get what you pay for. My thoughts were the same, buy it at a price knowing I might take the add'l 5k hit.
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Exactly... for the shape this one was in I paid almost $20k. All new interior, it’s super clean. One of the few that didn’t have over 300k miles in my area. Most of the other ones I was looking at were closer to $30k. No way I was gonna pay that for a used vehicle lol
Got a couple shots of the new tow pig with the boat. Also got a BW adjustable hitch for Christmas to get the trailer just right. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...2c05737bf4.jpg
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funny everyone mentions the excursion. bored at home the other day and caught an episode of diesel brothers. they can't say enough about the excursions. their recommendation tho was pre-04 to get the 7.3 powerstroke. said it's one of the best motors around. not a diesel guy so I really don't know a lot about them but they are not the first ones to say that. episode I picked up on had the excursion was their yearly contest giveaway rig. cali car they paid 22k for with big wheels/tires(like brokes), fox shox and a solid interior. didn't talk mileage but they didn't do much to the engine so assuming it was lower mile. sounds like broke is on the right path to have a stash in the event of some needed maintenance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Broke Pilot
on an unrelated note they also had in the same episode turning a dual diesel vietnam era bridge building boat into a wakesurf boat. was pretty interesting to watch. wake was meh but fun to see all the work. brigade wakesurf bought the boat for 55k. most of the water shots had a pavati in it. surfing utah lakes.
just sold the f250 the guy that owned my house prior left me. he moved to cali and couldn't take the rig with him so he told me to sell it. cars here in vegas sure do depreciate a ton. '95 f250 excab long bed. decent shape. 100,275 on the clock. all stock. 460v8 and 2wd. needs a rear main but otherwise runs great and is clean-bed only ever had rainwater in it :) all I could get out of it was $1700. took over a month to sell and only 2 lookers. towed his 30ft bayliner sleepaboard fine.
Love the colors of the rig. May I suggest black and blue stripes along the side of the F-150 to tie it all together! It would look even sweeter. I got my truck to match my boat, now upgrading to a supra SL and had to order the same colors as the Mojo to make sure it matched the truck.Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlangston13
BTW, I sometimes tow my Mojo with our Suburban and it tows just fine. Mainly when we have some of the kids friends and need the extra seats.
Will be interesting to see how the new Yukon and XL tow with that new duramax 3L diesel they’re offering.
Also of note, the shorter tongue and folding tower on the Supras make a huge difference when towing. I got 14 mpg towing a friends 2020 SA from Cincinnati to Columbus. That same route with my Craz is about 11mpg. Yukon handled it like a champ though, nowhere near the squat I expected.
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Shorter tongue help mileage by keeping the boat in the slip stream better? The longer tongues are good for reducing tongue weight.Quote:
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Pat’s boat? Good looking setup right there!Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt0520
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OK, about to pull the trigger on a 2019 Expedition. I have several options but I have a question, I'm not a wheels and tires guy so what is the performance difference between 18's and 22's. The two that I have locked in on have this as one of several option package differences. I know most of you will say the 22's look better and I agree but from a towing point of view any difference?
Yes sir! I think he should sell it to me next year :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MJHSupra
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22s do look better but ride like crap IMO. I’d also check the load rating on them. You may have to swap to a stiffer sidewall and then they’ll really ride like poop hahaQuote:
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20s are probably the best towing option. The smaller the rim the more side wall flex you will get which can contribute to an unstable feeling in the rear end. 22s dont provide enough side wall when the tire is compressed due to the extra load. 20s to me are the best bet, more side wall than a 22 for more cushion between the road and rim and less sidewall than an 18 to help the rear end feel more planted.Quote:
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Anyone considering a Land Rover Defender 110 as a tow vehicle? It has a 8200 Ilbs tow capacity.
I'm really struggling to find a family vehicle that can be used to tow my newlfy purchased 2019 SA. The tow to the lake is only 5 miles so will probably not do any road trips with it. My wife does not like Ford so has limited my options.
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LR Defender didn’t do too bad in the gold standard Ike gauntlet towing test.Quote:
Originally Posted by svienb
Should do just fine for your SA
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Anyone towed an SA with 2016-2020 tundra. I have a 2017 1794 with a 3” leveling kit, 33x12.5r20. It strained with my travel trailer off the start and on grades, but was otherwise fine.
CFO and I went to look at an SA this weekend and she has concerns. She gave the ok to trade her car for a larger truck. I don’t want to deal with diesel issues, so looking at ram 2500 gas, but I don’t think I’ll need it. Opinions?
What gear ratio in that tundra, 33” tires are going to hurt ya, absolutely kills gear ratio.
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What does the tundra come with? Can’t be much smaller than a 33. F150s come with 32s and goin up one in is not going to make that big of a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
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1” isn’t bad unless you are already borderline on ratio, it does reduce ratio, 2” in tire for example is significant.Quote:
Originally Posted by rdlangston13
3.55 on a 32, 33 drops to a 3.44, not that they make a 34, but it would 3.34.
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Does anyone know how much weight you can pull with a Ford F-250 Super Duty? I saw a very neat hidden trailer hitch and am thinking of towing some things.
apparently jaimetedddy must be from china where google is banned :)
Did you check out the Nissan Titan, stock towing capacity is 9300lbs, works great for my Craz with extra lead and gear.
The axle ratio is 4.30. Stock tire size was 275/55R20. Pavement queen tires. I haven't noticed a tremendous reduction when towing my trailer. Transmission ratio between 4 and 7th is bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
My trailer was 8500 loaded, but it had weight distribution and much more tongue weight because of the generator placement.
They do make 34s. 275/65R20 is a 34Quote:
Originally Posted by larry_arizona
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Depending on year and how it’s equipped I would imagine it would be north of 15,000 lbsQuote:
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Dang 4.30 is an impressive factory axle ratio with a 7 speed transQuote:
Originally Posted by 2in2out
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