Murder Max Mods

[z28ke]

Now that it’s here I’ve already started modding the max, so I figured a thread to document everything was appropriate. If anyone has questions about anything don’t hesitate to ask.

#1: Adjustable height seat riser. I did this immediately, and it’s a direct bolt in. The 12-17” is perfect for me to look over the tinted windshield without having to sit on the seat riser, and it’s easy to lower down if we are just hanging out on the boat.

Garelick/Eez-In 75635:01 Blue Water Adjustable Height Ribbed Series Positive Pin Lock Pedestal - 12" - 17" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002IR20YW?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

#2 STEREO!!!

I ordered the boat without any stereo options other than the transom remote. I worked out a pair of rev10’s from the dealer, and ordered the following from exile audio. I got a great deal and excellent service from Brian and Donovan at exile!

Xi12D 12” sub
6.5” speakers x4
Javelin 5ch amp (interiors and sub)
XM30.2 2ch amp (for towers)
ZLD zone controller kit
Miscellaneous wires/fuses/distribution blocks for install

Last night I figured I might as well start with the most intimidating part, cutting an 11” hole in my brand new boat....

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180530/58b267309fb34a8b6d68af874fca489d.jpg

I didn’t get any during pics but here is the end result:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180530/7803c934c82585f040cd3c9b8196d92c.jpg

^you can see the adjustable seat riser in that pic as well

Next up is building the amp rack...

[z28ke]

Oh yea, I used a premade box to seal in the back of the sub. I used an aerosol lacquer to coat it inside and out to hopefully help with moisture resistance.

Rockville RSE12 Single 12 1.1 cu.ft. 5/8 MDF Sealed Car Sub Enclosure Box https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DFW0OUQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Y.WdBbZE0J1DN

I used a window seal to help seal it to the back of the helm

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180530/daf901d79e5dce074781c41e96471520.jpg

I used 2” #10 stainless screws going from the front of the sub, through the helm, and into the box

I’ll get some pics of it mounted from inside the helm later

[kaneboats]

Looking good so far. Keep us posted.

[korey]

Sweet! I'll probably do that pedal stool too! I feel like my 260lb physique is abusing the flip up riser...

[z28ke]

Amp rack layout done, just need to drill some holes, throw some carpet down and wire it. I’m going to add a single blue LED under each amp and the charger to give them a little backlighting.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180601/486f4e5e31da2e4a3d93b4da0777dce1.jpg

I also went ahead and added a rgb LED to each 6.5” speaker grill to shine on the woofer. https://www.oznium.com/led-bolts-prewired-leds/prewired-surface-mount-led

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180601/7a1d6672af89b8afe27595c0402d7655.jpg

[trayson]

Great progress. some insight (that probably won't matter since you've already bought some stuff...

1) Nothing wrong with a premade box. I'm kinda surprised you didn't go with the premade box with the bedliner coating on it. did you not find one of those that would fit in the space you had to work with? I would have recommended this one if you're going for sealed to save space, but it has the bedliner coating... I have one of these for a 10" sub I added and the bedliner coating they did is TOUGH and I was impressed:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Q-Power-QBomb-12-Sealed-Car-Subwoofer-Sub-Box-Enclosure-QBOMB12S-Single/44665959?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=1187&adid=22222222227032083309&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=61114356896&wl4=pla-108507069176&wl5=9033604&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=112549749&wl11=online&wl12=44665959&wl13=&veh=sem

2) For the LED's to light up the cabin speakers, I would have probably went with a round LED Angel eye sized to match the bottom of that tweeter. But yours will probably look the same.

3) Glad to see I'm not the only person that doesn't sweat it mixing exile and WS! LOL. I have the exile BT controller and REV410s. Brian just rolls his eyes at me.

4) Love that max and your enthusiasm for modding it.

5) if you go LED cupholders, I strongly recommend the ones that have the translucent barrels and the whole inside of the cupholder glows. They're premade and actually surprisingly affordable and definitely some of the most professional looking ones around.

[ky_coop]

I will second the cupholders trayson recommended. I installed the same ones last week and they look great! Boat looking great. Anxious to see how it turns out

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[z28ke]

Thanks y’all. I did see that box when looking for one but it is slightly larger than what I ended up with. Space was a major concern and I ended up having to grind some fiberglass from inside the helm for this one to fit (if I had mounted the sub 1” lower then I would have been good, but the hole was cut at that point so no going back lol)

Do you happen to have a link to those cup holders? I was thinking about making my own rings with some led strips and plastic water line for a refrigerator.

[ky_coop]

Thanks y’all. I did see that box when looking for one but it is slightly larger than what I ended up with. Space was a major concern and I ended up having to grind some fiberglass from inside the helm for this one to fit (if I had mounted the sub 1” lower then I would have been good, but the hole was cut at that point so no going back lol)

Do you happen to have a link to those cup holders? I was thinking about making my own rings with some led strips and plastic water line for a refrigerator.https://m.ebay.com/itm/BLUE-GLOWING-LED-CUP-HOLDER-W-STAINLESS-RIM-BOAT-CUP/252654959141?hash=item3ad368ba25:g:19IAAOSw44BYOfr n:sc:USPSPriority!40220!US!-1


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[z28ke]

Thanks, doesn’t look like he does rgb though?

[ky_coop]

I could t find one from same seller that was RGB. Wasn't a deal breaker for me though. I only have blue lights in my boat https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180602/19221929b00a5edb9f02be0bcee3c167.jpg

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[z28ke]

So I finished up the stereo install over the weekend pulling some late nights so I could take the boat out last Sunday. Everything worked..... except a major air leak from were the sub box meets the helm wall on the bottom edge. It sounded terrible!

Remember I said I should have cut the hole for the sub a little lower....the box not being able to be pushed upwards enough was keeping it from sealing at the bottom.

To fix I ordered one of these: Atrend Universal MDF Constructed Spacer for 12 Inch Sub Boxes- Adds 3/4" to Decrease Woofer Depth https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0013NWD12/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_CMegBbEX0EYEH

and cut a little bit off the top of it so it would make a perfect circle with the hole I cut. Then I drilled 8 small holes and counter sunk 4 short screws in to hold this to the wall, and 4 long screws going through the ring and into the box to hold it in place. Before I had the sub mounting screws going through the helm wall and into the box. Put some silicone around all seams for good measure.

Ignore the god awful hack job hole I cut, thank god it’s hidden lol.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180606/192d4a702ce4777a8ba3ed464813e40c.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180606/3d5de1c371a02e5329f07c383d93dd36.jpg

Other than that this thing bumps hard! This system is crazy loud, I couldn’t be happier.

And good lord those rev10s scream with 300watts per speaker!!!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180606/35f8f516ca3d7bb84f93de7015d7c244.jpg

Going up to the in laws lake house this weekend so I’m hoping to finish up round 1 of the rgb LED install tonight or tomorrow night.

[trayson]

Thanks y’all. I did see that box when looking for one but it is slightly larger than what I ended up with. Space was a major concern and I ended up having to grind some fiberglass from inside the helm for this one to fit (if I had mounted the sub 1” lower then I would have been good, but the hole was cut at that point so no going back lol)

Do you happen to have a link to those cup holders? I was thinking about making my own rings with some led strips and plastic water line for a refrigerator.

Been there, done that. The cupholder's we're recommending look WAY better than plastic tubes under the lip of the cupholders. Plus you get a nice glow from the translucent barrel and don't get the "pearl necklace" effect. I did the translucent tubing around my subwoofers though, but made sure I got the LED strips with a higher concentration of LED's (1 LED per CM, vs most strips that have like 1 per inch).


Thanks, doesn’t look like he does rgb though?

I've never seen RGB versions of the cupholders we suggest. But pick your fav color and just go with them. they look great and Malibu even uses them in their flagship M235.

[trayson]

And good lord those rev10s scream with 300watts per speaker!!!



That's about how I have my wetsounds powered. I have a pair of REV410s and each pod is getting 600w mono from a PPI P600.2 so 1200 RMS watts for my pair of 410's. Muhahahahahahha

[Broke Pilot]

That's about how I have my wetsounds powered. I have a pair of REV410s and each pod is getting 600w mono from a PPI P600.2 so 1200 RMS watts for my pair of 410's. Muhahahahahahha
Man I miss those days... 410’s are awesome. If only there was a way on the new SA. However, those JL 8.8’s can get down. I’m super happy with them after the only wakeboard run I’ve ever done behind the boat lol.

[MJHSupra]

Man I miss those days... 410’s are awesome. If only there was a way on the new SA. However, those JL 8.8’s can get down. I’m super happy with them after the only wakeboard run I’ve ever done behind the boat lol.

I read a lot on the MC site. Lots of praise for the JL 8s and 7s.

Then the WS fans speak and a little back/forth follows.

But at the end of day who cares when you have either.


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[larry_arizona]

Man I miss those days... 410’s are awesome. If only there was a way on the new SA. However, those JL 8.8’s can get down. I’m super happy with them after the only wakeboard run I’ve ever done behind the boat lol.

BP, do you have 2 or 4 8.8s on your SA? If 4, what factory amp is driving them?


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[ky_coop]

If it's the 800/8 pushing them I bet they sound amazing

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[Broke Pilot]

Yep, four 8.8’s on a JL 800/8. They’re clean and get loud, even at 85’ off.
There’s no replacement for the mid-bass on the 410’s though. Having 2 10’s moving air up there is hard to beat. But for the money, unless they all fry, I wouldn’t make the switch. Sound quality wise the JL can’t be beat.
It’s still amazing to me that JL hasn’t built something to compete with wet sounds.
How sick would a 410 pod with 2 w6v3’s be?! Lmao

[KG's Supra24]

Man I miss those days... 410’s are awesome. If only there was a way on the new SA.

Was there a tower between this one and the newest? Could be possible ....
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180607/e68c7b25d4f2d2b1a9c26c86cdca0827.jpg

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[Prospersigman]

Was there a tower between this one and the newest? Could be possible ....
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180607/e68c7b25d4f2d2b1a9c26c86cdca0827.jpg

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I was going to say...didn't Dusty's SE have 410's on it??

[Broke Pilot]

I don’t know that I could fit them on the ‘17 SA. The new ‘18’s with power tower are really square compared to mine. You could definitely fit one or two on a newer one.
I’d thought about maybe doing the Threesome with the Rev10s mounted on the speaker pads, just dunno how it’d look with that 410 hanging off the tower.

[larry_arizona]

I ordered my SA with 2 8.8’s

I may upgrade and add 2 more 8.8’s but I think my amp is a 600/6.

Would I need a separate amp to drive 2 more 8.8’s? I could always add 2 Rev10’s


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[dusty2221]

Was there a tower between this one and the newest? Could be possible ....
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180607/e68c7b25d4f2d2b1a9c26c86cdca0827.jpg

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I was going to say...didn't Dusty's SE have 410's on it??


I don’t know that I could fit them on the ‘17 SA. The new ‘18’s with power tower are really square compared to mine. You could definitely fit one or two on a newer one.
I’d thought about maybe doing the Threesome with the Rev10s mounted on the speaker pads, just dunno how it’d look with that 410 hanging off the tower.

What was the problem? :p ;)

https://i.imgur.com/a98zwmU.jpg

[Broke Pilot]

Of course you’d have to chime in... lmao
Dang that looks good. I dunno how I missed that when you had it. I guess the towers are the same. Did you have to do anything special with the outer clamps? In that picture ^^ it looks like you’re only using the inner! Lol
We’re you able to reroute the factory speaker wire to them or did you re-string the tower?

[dusty2221]

Nothing about it was bolt on. I mocked up all my own brackets out of wood for fitment and then had the machine shop make them. Inner mount was the basic RGB swivel clamp, outer used the swivel base and pod without a clamp, I fabbed a mount that bolted directly to the stock outer top speaker plate in the tower and the wires ran thru the oem location.

They would have bolted up to the bar IIRC, but they would have been crooked as hell, no way I could live with that

[Broke Pilot]

That’s what I was afraid of... kinda why I was thinking Threesome with the 10’s mounted on the outer lower pads

[dusty2221]

I think the tower center is to wide to fit the 410 clamp, the big flat piece connecting the front and rear bar. Nah mean?

[Broke Pilot]

Well you’re just full of disappointments today aren’t you?!? Lmao
But, like I said, I’m pretty pleased with the JL. Until they fry I doubt I’ll change anything.

[Broke Pilot]

OP, I’d pick up an 800/8, you’re gonna want to bridge 4 8.8’s. They want all the power you can give them with the crappy signal you get outta that ICE box.
You could easily sell that 600/6 to cover most of the cost. Heck, I might even buy it.

[larry_arizona]

Sounds like the audio package I ordered has the 800/8 and might even be factory wired for adding 2 more 8.8s


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[Broke Pilot]

I’d imagine the wires are there. I think most of these boats use a pre-made wiring harness

[larry_arizona]

Then the only decision will be adding 2 REV10’s or 2 8.8’s


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[larry_arizona]

Is the JL 8.8’s being discontinued? Inventory seems low out there are JLaudio does not list them on their website.

Lots of 7.7’s

Edit: confirmed discontinued


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[trayson]

Then the only decision will be adding 2 REV10’s or 2 8.8’s


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most would discourage you from mixing coaxial with HLCD speakers on your towers. They are meant to be played at different distances and IMO the REV10's would overpower the 8.8's. But who knows, maybe it'd get you a near/far mix??? I'm sure others might chime in.

[larry_arizona]

most would discourage you from mixing coaxial with HLCD speakers on your towers. They are meant to be played at different distances and IMO the REV10's would overpower the 8.8's. But who knows, maybe it'd get you a near/far mix??? I'm sure others might chime in.

Great feedback, thank you.


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[Edo88]

So I finished up the stereo install over the weekend pulling some late nights so I could take the boat out last Sunday. Everything worked..... except a major air leak from were the sub box meets the helm wall on the bottom edge. It sounded terrible!

Remember I said I should have cut the hole for the sub a little lower....the box not being able to be pushed upwards enough was keeping it from sealing at the bottom.

To fix I ordered one of these: Atrend Universal MDF Constructed Spacer for 12 Inch Sub Boxes- Adds 3/4" to Decrease Woofer Depth https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0013NWD12/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_CMegBbEX0EYEH

and cut a little bit off the top of it so it would make a perfect circle with the hole I cut. Then I drilled 8 small holes and counter sunk 4 short screws in to hold this to the wall, and 4 long screws going through the ring and into the box to hold it in place. Before I had the sub mounting screws going through the helm wall and into the box. Put some silicone around all seams for good measure.

Ignore the god awful hack job hole I cut, thank god it’s hidden lol.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180606/192d4a702ce4777a8ba3ed464813e40c.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180606/3d5de1c371a02e5329f07c383d93dd36.jpg

Other than that this thing bumps hard! This system is crazy loud, I couldn’t be happier.

And good lord those rev10s scream with 300watts per speaker!!!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180606/35f8f516ca3d7bb84f93de7015d7c244.jpg

Going up to the in laws lake house this weekend so I’m hoping to finish up round 1 of the rgb LED install tonight or tomorrow night.

Off topic question here but how tall is your garage door. I’m having a shop built here soon and need to make sure it’ll clear the tower.


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[dusty2221]

Off topic question here but how tall is your garage door. I’m having a shop built here soon and need to make sure it’ll clear the tower.


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You are gonna want a 12ft door

[Broke Pilot]

Discontinued?
http://www.jlaudio.com/m880-etxv3-sg-tkld-b-marine-audio-enclosed-speaker-systems-91195

[Edo88]

You are gonna want a 12ft door

We’ll shoot. Thanks


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[bsharer]

Fold the tower down.

How deep are you going? 30'+?

[Edo88]

Fold the tower down.

How deep are you going? 30'+?

20x30x12


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[bsharer]

My garage is 26" and I had to take the swim platform off and fold the trailer in. Had about 1.5' at the back and a couple inches at the door.

This going in at the house?

[Edo88]

Yeah I’m having it built in the back yard. Unless Jamie finds us another house with a shop already built. Aubrey told me it’ll take em 3 to 4 weeks to approve the renderings etc bunch of nonsense from a engineered foundation to wind bracing and some other box engineering etc etc etc


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[jcarter20]

Now that it’s here I’ve already started modding the max, so I figured a thread to document everything was appropriate. If anyone has questions about anything don’t hesitate to ask.

#1: Adjustable height seat riser. I did this immediately, and it’s a direct bolt in. The 12-17” is perfect for me to look over the tinted windshield without having to sit on the seat riser, and it’s easy to lower down if we are just hanging out on the boat.

Garelick/Eez-In 75635:01 Blue Water Adjustable Height Ribbed Series Positive Pin Lock Pedestal - 12" - 17" https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002IR20YW?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

#2 STEREO!!!

I ordered the boat without any stereo options other than the transom remote. I worked out a pair of rev10’s from the dealer, and ordered the following from exile audio. I got a great deal and excellent service from Brian and Donovan at exile!

Xi12D 12” sub
6.5” speakers x4
Javelin 5ch amp (interiors and sub)
XM30.2 2ch amp (for towers)
ZLD zone controller kit
Miscellaneous wires/fuses/distribution blocks for install

Last night I figured I might as well start with the most intimidating part, cutting an 11” hole in my brand new boat....

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180530/58b267309fb34a8b6d68af874fca489d.jpg

I didn’t get any during pics but here is the end result:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180530/7803c934c82585f040cd3c9b8196d92c.jpg

^you can see the adjustable seat riser in that pic as well

Next up is building the amp rack...

Is that pic with the seat riser extended all the way up? I love that idea, but that seems pretty high. Can you still lower it down enough to Keep your head below the windshield if needed.


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[w1s2t3]

its cool, i like your boat

[zabooda]

its cool, i like your boat

You got your first groupie. Lol.

[BigOrange]

An 11’ garage door should work without having to drop tower. But that is just my guess. I have a 10’ and it looks like a few more inches would get mine in.

[z28ke]

Is that pic with the seat riser extended all the way up? I love that idea, but that seems pretty high. Can you still lower it down enough to Keep your head below the windshield if needed.


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Yes that is all the way up in that pic. When it’s lowered all the way I’m looking through the windshield. My wife (just got married on Saturday) still likes to flip up the bolster when she’s driving to sit even higher.

[z28ke]

Off topic question here but how tall is your garage door. I’m having a shop built here soon and need to make sure it’ll clear the tower.


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It’s 10’ tall so I have to fold the tower down. Much easier to do on the new boats than the old radacage towers. My old obv fit without folding the tower, but before I built the shop I had to fold it every time to go in the garage.

[z28ke]

It’s been a busy summer so far with the new boat and the wedding in vegas on Saturday. Mandatory wedding pic:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180626/3d1aaf8eef2de5fc7302ebc8e134743a.jpg

I finished up round one of the LED’s a few weeks ago and realized I never posted pics (night pics don’t do justice to how it really looks as y’all know). The wetsounds music controller is really cool

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180626/2aaa2525cd6abe58732a6711eaeedc4f.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180626/e8bd6bea1c0aba0ca43ebb2d2ca6732c.jpg

I put a single rgb LED’s in all the speaker grills and 2 of them in the sub grill. The sub looks great, but the 6.5’s could use more. I’ll have to get a pic of the sub and the 6.5’s in the bow.

Im thinking Part 2 will be speaker rings and cupholder rings for the cupholders in the floor.

[jcarter20]

Yes that is all the way up in that pic. When it’s lowered all the way I’m looking through the windshield. My wife (just got married on Saturday) still likes to flip up the bolster when she’s driving to sit even higher.

Cool. I ordered one for my Craz also. Great tip!


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[ky_coop]

What rgb led's did you use for speakers/ subs and the cupholder area? Is the music controller your talking about the wetsounds unit that is crazy expensive?

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[z28ke]

What rgb led's did you use for speakers/ subs and the cupholder area? Is the music controller your talking about the wetsounds unit that is crazy expensive?

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These for the speaker grills:

https://www.oznium.com/led-bolts-prewired-leds/prewired-surface-mount-led

These ziptied to the wiring harness that runs above the cupholder area (and in the little cutout to the right of the helm):

SUPERNIGHT 16.4ft 5050 RGB Strip Waterproof Black PCB, 300 LED Color Changing Rope Lights https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076VG955L?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

Controller:

Wet Sounds RF RGB Multi-Function LED Lighting & Music Marine Speaker Controller https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HU9O73Y?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

I soldered these to the LED strips:

Zitrades LED RGB Light Strips 10PCS Female Connector RGB Wire Cable for SMD 5050/3528 RGB LED Strip Light https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00D0Y8SG6?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

And used combinations of the wire in different lengths and splitters found here:

2 pcs/pack black 5M 16.4ft 4 Color RGB Extension Cable LED Strip Connector Extension Cable Cord Wire 4 Pin LED Connector for SMD 5050 3528 2835 RGB LED Light Strip ，rgb wire，rgb extension cable https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075FGSTG4?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

Scroll down to “customers also bought:” to see the splitters and such

[ky_coop]

Awesome thanks

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[DFTR Josh]

I like the way this MAX is turning out! Congrats on the marriage.

[jcarter20]

Cool. I ordered one for my Craz also. Great tip!


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Just a heads up to anyone else who may order this adjustable pedestal. It is great and screws straight to the deck in the same screw pattern. However, you cannot adjust it up as easily as I expected. You have to pull the pin out and lift the seat at the same time. Because the seat wants to rock back, it binds on the post. It can be done, it just takes two people. This is more of an adjustable height “fixed” post. Don’t expect to raise it up while driving. Still a great upgrade though.


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[z28ke]

That is correct. I can raise it myself but it is quite awkward. I wonder if there is a way to add a spring inside? Might look into that when I finish my other projects....

[jcarter20]

That is correct. I can raise it myself but it is quite awkward. I wonder if there is a way to add a spring inside? Might look into that when I finish my other projects....

Yeah, good idea. That would solve the problem.


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[z28ke]

Started on the LED cupholder and speaker rings. I found a great DIY on malibucrew to give credit where credit is due: http://www.themalibucrew.com/index.php?/forums/topic/49213-rgb-led-speaker-rings-and-cupholder-rings-diy/

I’m using 3/8” hose for the speakers and 1/4” for the cupholders:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180629/ad14a370136f0ffcf3452e205f7681d6.jpg

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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180629/4b93b1a0e3b7778a12518d93235f7c3c.jpg

[z28ke]

My plan is to do all 8 cupholders in the floor to add some light down there along with the 4 interior speakers since the single LED’s I added don’t show up well against the black cone.

Im also going to do the cupholders on the transom and the rev10’s, but will run the 12v wire for that circuit through one of the acc switches on the dash so that I can turn them off when underway. The law will use any excuse around here to pull you, especially at night.

I’m hoping to have all this done for our next trip to the lake the weekend after the 4th.

[z28ke]

The 1/4” tubing ended up being too small for the cupholders to drop all the down flush due to the led strip so I went with 5/16” OD. I found these little things in the hardware isle at Lowe’s to use as a connector.

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I crazy glued the ends of tubing together with that little insert in there so it can’t back out, and also used some glue to keep the ring up on the led strip.

To get the wires to fit in the hole I used a “D” shaped file and took off just enough fiberglass in the necessary spot for the cupholder to slide down.

I’m very happy with the results:

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[z28ke]

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[Broke Pilot]

You guys that do all this RGB wiring must be the most patient people ever... lol

[korey]

Just a heads up to anyone else who may order this adjustable pedestal. It is great and screws straight to the deck in the same screw pattern. However, you cannot adjust it up as easily as I expected. You have to pull the pin out and lift the seat at the same time. Because the seat wants to rock back, it binds on the post. It can be done, it just takes two people. This is more of an adjustable height “fixed” post. Don’t expect to raise it up while driving. Still a great upgrade though.


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yeah, I ordered this and returned it. Mine was also damaged int eh box when I got it from amazon, but after playing with it, I decided it wasn't worth it and returned it.

[z28ke]

You guys that do all this RGB wiring must be the most patient people ever... lol

I tell myself it’s a labor of love and that flashing multi color LEDs make women horny hahaha

I’ve found that using the 4 pin connectors (and various lengths of premade wire w/4 pin connectors/splitters) makes it much easier. There is a lot of soldering up front but that’s just a little bench work, once it’s done the actual install goes quick, practically plug n play.

In the past I have tried the connectors that crimp onto the LED strips on one end and the wire on the other, those are a major pain in the rear to get good connections. I realized at some point that I spent so much time messing with them that I should have just soldered from the beginning.

[Broke Pilot]

The picture of the cup holders with the 4 pin plugs looks dang near professional lol... you did good work!

[z28ke]

Thank you sir!

[z28ke]

Moving on to LED’s that are visible outside the boat.

The wetsounds controller has 2 outputs so I’m running all the external lights off the 2nd. I spliced into the positive wire (black wire in the rgb 4 wire lead) and ran it to the acc switch on the dash before continuing on, this allows me to turn them off when underway at night if the cops are on the lake, while the interior LEDs stay on.

The most difficult part of the job was fishing the rgb wire up and across the tower.

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I went ahead and put a strip inside the vent on the transom and am going to do the cupholders back there and the two vents in front of the windshield as well, but ran out of time to finish last night.

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I’ll update with more pics when it’s done.

[z28ke]

I got tired of the stereo cutting out when I turned off the boat and every time I started it so I wired the head unit power wire to one of the accessory switches.

I wanted to label the switch for the stereo and the one I used for the exterior LEDs and couldn’t find anyone that makes the factory switch plates, so I ordered these on eBay:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180827/d255592611d6667a746cf2b19f1615cf.jpg

You get to customize 10 of them so I just ordered some random ones too

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180827/34a7cb1276fc54ba34cc7c41cd6ee862.jpg

Link to seller:

https://m.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Round-Black-Metal-Label-boat-car-toggle-switch-single-or-double-text-/262786430340?_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1

[BrettLee3232]

I got tired of the stereo cutting out when I turned off the boat and every time I started it so I wired the head unit power wire to one of the accessory switches.

I wanted to label the switch for the stereo and the one I used for the exterior LEDs and couldn’t find anyone that makes the factory switch plates, so I ordered these on eBay:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180827/d255592611d6667a746cf2b19f1615cf.jpg

You get to customize 10 of them so I just ordered some random ones too

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180827/34a7cb1276fc54ba34cc7c41cd6ee862.jpg

Link to seller:

https://m.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Round-Black-Metal-Label-boat-car-toggle-switch-single-or-double-text-/262786430340?_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1

I had a vinyl shop make me some. I had to replace all of them because of my ocd lol

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[BigOrange]

I'm curious what your machine gun and rockets switch does. Standard 007 stuff from Q?

[z28ke]

I'm curious what your machine gun and rockets switch does. Standard 007 stuff from Q?

Hahahaha I was wondering if anyone would notice. I got that to put on the far left switch to mess with my 6 year old.

[z28ke]

I had a vinyl shop make me some. I had to replace all of them because of my ocd lol

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Those look good! Nice and uniform

[jcarter20]

Hahahaha I was wondering if anyone would notice. I got that to put on the far left switch to mess with my 6 year old.

Now, that is good stuff! Ha ha. My 3 year old would probably believe it.


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[xjpeex]

Z28ke
How did you mount the rev 10’s?
I zoomed in on the pic and looks like there is some sort of adapter between the tower and the rev10.

Thanks

[z28ke]

Z28ke
How did you mount the rev 10’s?
I zoomed in on the pic and looks like there is some sort of adapter between the tower and the rev10.

Thanks

They are mounted with brackets I got through my moomba dealer, and I believe they got them from skiers choice (to go on wetsounds equipped boats). I was quoted $300 for the brackets if I recall correctly. The dealer had a few boats with rev10s already mounted and my wife liked the clean look of those brackets, so we had them order some for us.

[Chopper d]

I used the wetsounds fc5-u brackets to mount my rev 10s on my 2018 max. They are like $150 online

[z28ke]

^I looked those up out of curiosity and they appear to be identical. Dealer hooked it up on the speaker price and made up the difference on the “special” mounts I guess lol

[xjpeex]

Awesome thank you guys!!

[csm]

I'm curious how your EQ interacts with your transom remote. Do you run bluetooth through the stereo, and control all of the volume/levels and zones with the EQ? What role does the transom remote play? Just skipping tracks and adusting the overall volume?

I have a Max on order, but didn't mess with the stereo controls much, so trying to decide if I should add an EQ also.

[z28ke]

Good question CSM. I run all music through the fusion head unit (either Bluetooth from my phone or good old radio FM) and have the max volume for the head unit set at about 70-80% so the signal to the amps remains clear. I leave this turned all the way up and then adjust volume with the exile zone controller.

With it setup like this the transom remote will still change songs and turn the volume down, but it can’t turn the volume up (since it’s already set at a max of 70-80%). If you want to have more volume control with the transom remote or head unit just turn the volume up to 75%+ on the zone controller and then use the volume knob on the hu or transom remote to adjust.

That’s the best way I can think to explain it.

If you have a pair of properly powered tower speakers the zone controller is a must so you aren’t blowing the heads off your crew sitting in the stern all day long. My wife’s words: “I can’t hear myself think when those things are turned up, forget about communicating with someone right beside you” hahaha

[jimmsch]

So, I am thinking of using these in my 2018 Max. It lists specific diameter hole sizes that it fits. Since my boat is shrink wrapped already for winter, I have no way to measure the hole diameter. Can somebody tell me if the diameter is a match to what is specified on the page in the link please? I only wish I had the skill and patience to do the things you guys do here , but I have to depend on pre made things.

LED cup holder rings (https://www.amazon.com/Blast-LED-Holder-Light-Ring/dp/B01E6GBP8O/ref=pd_bxgy_200_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01E6GBP8O&pd_rd_r=7ddeebae-cda1-11e8-8922-d5febd524695&pd_rd_w=XTguR&pd_rd_wg=2nMUg&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=6725dbd6-9917-451d-beba-16af7874e407&pf_rd_r=9ECDXJTYKXSJJ14AZH0D&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=9ECDXJTYKXSJJ14AZH0D)

Also, I don't remember how many cup holders are in the boat either!!!

Thanks in advance

[trayson]

So, I am thinking of using these in my 2018 Max. It lists specific diameter hole sizes that it fits. Since my boat is shrink wrapped already for winter, I have no way to measure the hole diameter. Can somebody tell me if the diameter is a match to what is specified on the page in the link please? I only wish I had the skill and patience to do the things you guys do here , but I have to depend on pre made things.

LED cup holder rings (https://www.amazon.com/Blast-LED-Holder-Light-Ring/dp/B01E6GBP8O/ref=pd_bxgy_200_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01E6GBP8O&pd_rd_r=7ddeebae-cda1-11e8-8922-d5febd524695&pd_rd_w=XTguR&pd_rd_wg=2nMUg&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=6725dbd6-9917-451d-beba-16af7874e407&pf_rd_r=9ECDXJTYKXSJJ14AZH0D&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&psc=1&refRID=9ECDXJTYKXSJJ14AZH0D)

Also, I don't remember how many cup holders are in the boat either!!!

Thanks in advance

You should go with these:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/BLUE-GLOWING-LED-CUP-HOLDER-W-STAINLESS-RIM-3-5-8-HOLE-REQUIRED-BOAT-CUP/262736011595?hash=item3d2c49614b:g:TaMAAOSw44BYOfZ T:rk:3:pf:0

They are less expensive and look better. I have them in my boat and they are rad. It's what Malibu uses on their high end boats too.

[flynnva]

You should go with these:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/BLUE-GLOWING-LED-CUP-HOLDER-W-STAINLESS-RIM-3-5-8-HOLE-REQUIRED-BOAT-CUP/262736011595?hash=item3d2c49614b:g:TaMAAOSw44BYOfZ T:rk:3:pf:0

They are less expensive and look better. I have them in my boat and they are rad. It's what Malibu uses on their high end boats too.

Second this, I have them in my boat and they look great. I have a mix of blue and green and both colors look great.

[z28ke]

I believe the max has 17 cup holders including the 2 on the transom iirc.

[csm]

Maybe I missed it, but are you finding the two cabin speakers enough, as long as they’re properly powered? Or do you feel like it needs two more?


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[z28ke]

Maybe I missed it, but are you finding the two cabin speakers enough, as long as they’re properly powered? Or do you feel like it needs two more?


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I mean two more in the back would be nice, but with my exile setup (one pair in the bow, one pair in the stern, and a 12” sub) it gets plenty loud! Probably too loud if you ask my wife lol.

[csm]

Good to know. Thanks. I’ve always had 4 in the cabin so was a little concerned but I’ll give it a go with 2.


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[z28ke]

My wife got me this rgb underwater led for Christmas and I got around to installing it today. Had to take the grinder to it as others on this forum have done to clear the wakeplate.

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I’ll wire it up when I start working on ballast upgrades. I think she got me some 720lbs bags for my birthday, fingers crossed!

[MJHSupra]

[QUOTE=z28ke;336084]My wife got me this rgb underwater led for Christmas and I got around to installing it today. Had to take the grinder to it as others on this forum have done to clear the wakeplate.

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What lights are those?

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[z28ke]

It’s the Titan-2 (in rgb) from boatpluglight.com

https://boatpluglight.myshopify.com/collections/drain-plug-led-lights/products/the-titan-2-drain-flange-light-16-000-lumens?variant=41350053635

[jcarter20]

It’s the Titan-2 (in rgb) from boatpluglight.com

https://boatpluglight.myshopify.com/collections/drain-plug-led-lights/products/the-titan-2-drain-flange-light-16-000-lumens?variant=41350053635

Did you check to see if the oil drain hose still fits though the hole? Is it a standard drain plug? I would like to get one of those assuming the oil drain still works.


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[z28ke]

I doubt it’ll go through since the wires come out of the backside of the drain hole. I always change fluids top side with an oil extractor so it’s no worry for me.

You can kinda see what I mean in this pic from the side

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[larry_arizona]

That is a cool gadget and smart engineering solution if you didn’t get the factory underwater lighting.




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[z28ke]

Here’s what a lot of folks have expressed interest in - adding hinges to the bulky side bench seats on the max.

Keep in mind I am adding ballast under these seats so I don’t need access to the bottom of the compartment. If I was using it for storage I would use a different type of hinge so the seat goes up and back instead of forward and down.

Note: This is a temporary test run to see if they will work. I only put 2 screws in the seat bottom and used double sided sticky tape on the seat base. I’ll go back and add more screws to the seat and drill out the base and use machine screws with washers and nylon lock nuts when I have more time.

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A link to the hinges:

https://www.greatlakesskipper.com/lund-boat-complex-piano-hinge-2008307-17-1-2-x-6-1-2-inch-aluminum?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=1o1&scid=scplp8302624&sc_intid=8302624&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzaK59IL93wIVkYzICh3vCQMOEAQYASAB EgIWwPD_BwE

[Boonejeepin]

Here’s what a lot of folks have expressed interest in - adding hinges to the bulky side bench seats on the max.

Keep in mind I am adding ballast under these seats so I don’t need access to the bottom of the compartment. If I was using it for storage I would use a different type of hinge so the seat goes up and back instead of forward and down.

Note: This is a temporary test run to see if they will work. I only put 2 screws in the seat bottom and used double sided sticky tape on the seat base. I’ll go back and add more screws to the seat and drill out the base and use machine screws with washers and nylon lock nuts when I have more time.

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A link to the hinges:

https://www.greatlakesskipper.com/lund-boat-complex-piano-hinge-2008307-17-1-2-x-6-1-2-inch-aluminum?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=1o1&scid=scplp8302624&sc_intid=8302624&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzaK59IL93wIVkYzICh3vCQMOEAQYASAB EgIWwPD_BwE

That looks like a nice solution. In travel with boards in that storage area but I think it would still be easy to get them in and out. Hmmmm, I may have to order a set.


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[z28ke]

My wife and in-laws got me the wakemakers 720lb bags for my birthday a couple weeks ago and I just finished the install:

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Used a 2 1/4” hole saw to drill through the stringers. The ports on the wakemakers bags are a little further apart than the front ports on the stock rear bags so the holes are offset slightly.

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I ordered 8 of these to go over the holes:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rig-Rite-Manufacturing-620-Marine-3-Black-Rubber-Rigging-Grommet/153149744584?pageci=d5f5ce6c-e363-485c-88a2-a61d30523e69&epid=1022100282

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[z28ke]

On to the vent/overflow...

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Green: goes to the vent on the top of the 720
Red: attach the stock vent hose here from the rear bag
Blue: attaches to the vent thru Hull barb

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I’m considering Ting into the 720 vent and using 2 fittings on top of the bag like the factory does on the rear bags.

Note: This has not been water tested yet but seems like it’ll work fine based on what others have done.

[z28ke]

Complete parts list from wakemakers to do it this way (including the crimping tool and a couple extra clamp bands, I think 20ft of hose is enough- I used some extra I had from upgrading my old outbackV a few years ago):

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With the 10% off moomba discount this comes in at under $600 not including the rig rite grommets which are optional of course.

I can’t wait to try it out, bring on summer!!!

[haknslash]

^^excellent write up! Can't wait to see what results you get. I like your cargo net too. Have you inflated the bag with air to see how much it will affect the cargo net, if at all?

[z28ke]

^^excellent write up! Can't wait to see what results you get. I like your cargo net too. Have you inflated the bag with air to see how much it will affect the cargo net, if at all?

Thank you! I did fill with a shopvac and there’s not much room left, but a row of life jackets or a few ropes should fit fine which is all I was hoping for.

[haknslash]

On my Max build I didn’t opt for the rear side trays because I didn’t know if larger bags would interfere. Looking at your side storage cargo net I can’t help but think this would be great for the rear lockers too for those who don’t have the trays. Can you take a closer pic of how you hung them?

I’ve got a spare 750 lb fly fly high fat sac. It’s 5” longer than your 720 lb bag but all other dimensions are the same. You think it will fit in there?

[z28ke]

On my Max build I didn’t opt for the rear side trays because I didn’t know if larger bags would interfere. Looking at your side storage cargo net I can’t help but think this would be great for the rear lockers too for those who don’t have the trays. Can you take a closer pic of how you hung them?

I’ve got a spare 750 lb fly fly high fat sac. It’s 5” longer than your 720 lb bag but all other dimensions are the same. You think it will fit in there?

Sure I’ll take some pics later today.

I think the 750 will be just a little too long but would probably work, you just wouldn’t be able to fill it all the way.

[Kxmoomba]

Are you using stock rears?

[z28ke]

Are you using stock rears?

Yes, my boat was built in May 2018 and the stock rear bags have 2 front ports each. I believe some of the early 2018 model build’s did not come with front ports in the rear bags.

The 4x fly high 3/4” screw to 1 1/8” quick connect fittings on the parts list are what’s needed for the stock rear bags (if they have the 2 front ports).

[z28ke]

Here is how I mounted the cargo nets:

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I went into some more detail here:

Hinge seats
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?share_fid=27865&share_tid=29187&share_pid=336547&url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum%2Emoomba%2Ecom%2Fshowpost% 2Ephp%3Fp%3D336547&share_type=t

If I was going to mount nets where the rear trays go I would screw straight into the engine divider panel on one side, and drill through the fiberglass lip on the other and use a bolt/nut.

The nets I used are rig rite manufacturing from amazon. This seems to be the best length for under the seats: Rig Rite Manufacturing 1200... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001BW6AXC?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

I also mounted this under the engine hatch for the surf rope, and will be adding one more for the ski rope: Rig Rite 1150 Boat Console Cargo... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QMT3488?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

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[moparsigfan]

Great images and links. I will be looking into implementing some of these ideas this spring once the boat is out of storage!


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[z28ke]

Next up....sound deadener. I used it on the underside of the engine tray, sides of the dividers in the engine compartment, under the v-drive cover and midship floor panel. I’m not sure how well it’ll do with the heat in the engine compartment but I tested a bit with a torch and think it’ll do fine.

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In hindsight I probably should have used this in the engine compartment: Car Insulation - 4' x 10' Roll (40 Sqft) Sound Deadener & Heat Barrier Mat - Automotive Lightweight Thermal Insulation https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016QUS1YE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_rzSyCb4FET75A

[MJHSupra]

extra ballast right there

[haknslash]

I plan to do sound deadener in the engine compartment as well. Let us know how well it quiets down the engine.

[z28ke]

I plan to do sound deadener in the engine compartment as well. Let us know how well it quiets down the engine.

I will definitely report back.

When I was putting the v-drive cover back on I noticed a nice gap between it and the vertical wall. The light shined through like this all the way across the top.

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So I found a window seal at ace and secured it with glue and stainless staples. Seems to do the job!

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[haknslash]

Nice find with fixing that gap! Can't wait to hear your thoughts how the deadening material performs.

[BigOrange]

z28ke -- how much research did you do on the matting material. I am thinking of doing this before the boat gets wet this spring as well. Have done a bit of searching on forums and such and wonder if you just went with Kilmat product or that was a researched choice over Dynamat and other products?

[RC_Hinojosa]

z28ke -- how much research did you do on the matting material. I am thinking of doing this before the boat gets wet this spring as well. Have done a bit of searching on forums and such and wonder if you just went with Kilmat product or that was a researched choice over Dynamat and other products?

I've used Kilmat as well, lining the underside of my helm over my WS XXX.

I would say it's attenuation is comparable with that of Dynamat at a much lower cost.

You can find various size sheets or rolls on Amazon.

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[z28ke]

z28ke -- how much research did you do on the matting material. I am thinking of doing this before the boat gets wet this spring as well. Have done a bit of searching on forums and such and wonder if you just went with Kilmat product or that was a researched choice over Dynamat and other products?

To be honest not a whole lot of research, but I did read a lot of amazon reviews on comparable products and decided on kilmat simply based on its reviews and the lower price point.

[BigOrange]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I will just cut to the chase and go with that product.


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[haknslash]

Hey z28ke, I like what you did with the RGB LEDs in the cockpit. I may follow some of your ideas for my Max LED lighting. I was wondering since you had the cup holders out, can you tell me if there are drain tubes or do they dump water in the storage compartments?

Did you get a chance to test out the sound deadening you did to see if there was a big improvement?

[csm]

Hey z28ke, I like what you did with the RGB LEDs in the cockpit. I may follow some of your ideas for my Max LED lighting. I was wondering since you had the cup holders out, can you tell me if there are drain tubes or do they dump water in the storage compartments?

Did you get a chance to test out the sound deadening you did to see if there was a big improvement?

I just replaced my cupholders with LEDs.. There are no tubes on the cupholders in the cabin. The two that are on the transom do have tubes, but those are the only ones.

[haknslash]

I just replaced my cupholders with LEDs.. There are no tubes on the cupholders in the cabin. The two that are on the transom do have tubes, but those are the only ones.

Dang that sucks to hear. So the midship cup holders just dump water into the underseat storage? If so I’ll definitely plug them like I had to do on my Yamaha. I’m guessing the 2 cup holders in the bow dump into the hull and go back to the bilge? I may just run tubes from all the cup holders so they dump into the bilge and be done with it.

[RC_Hinojosa]

Dang that sucks to hear. So the midship cup holders just dump water into the underseat storage? If so I’ll definitely plug them like I had to do on my Yamaha. I’m guessing the 2 cup holders in the bow dump into the hull and go back to the bilge? I may just run tubes from all the cup holders so they dump into the bilge and be done with it.

If you're having to dump your bilge from cup holder can condensation you are drinking WAY too slow....[emoji1787]

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[haknslash]

If you're having to dump your bilge from cup holder can condensation you are drinking WAY too slow....[emoji1787]

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:D :D :D Now that is funny!!!!

Mainly the issue was from washing the boat and cockpit. The Yamaha storage compartments were all carpet and not the rubber lined like the Moomba. So carpet could get soaked real quick. I plugged mine soon after I bought it and never had to worry over it again.

[z28ke]

Hey z28ke, I like what you did with the RGB LEDs in the cockpit. I may follow some of your ideas for my Max LED lighting. I was wondering since you had the cup holders out, can you tell me if there are drain tubes or do they dump water in the storage compartments?

Did you get a chance to test out the sound deadening you did to see if there was a big improvement?

No drain tubes on any of mine, but you could take one to the hardware store and find a plastic cap that would plug it.

Hopefully I’ll have it out in April to see how the sound deadener worked!

[Maxman]

Did you tie into your court lights for the cupholders and speaker lights?

[z28ke]

Did you tie into your court lights for the cupholders and speaker lights?

I did, I removed the 2 courtesy lights, drilled them out from the backside (giggity) and glued in single rgb led’s.

I don’t believe I took any pics of the process but these are the single led’s I used:
XSPC Single 2x5x5mm RGB LED (4-Pin) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0735J8PCJ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

[Maxman]

What was the process to tie the cupholders into the court lights wiring ?

[z28ke]

I just used the courtesy lights switch to power the wetsounds rgb controller. If you aren’t going rgb you can just tap into the positive and negative wire going to the courtesy lights and wire the cup holders directly off that.

[Maxman]

I'm doing just blue - gotta figure out which wire is the courtesy lights - i glanced up under the console and it was hard to tell what was what. Thanks for your help - you've done a great job with your boat.

[csm]

I'm doing just blue - gotta figure out which wire is the courtesy lights - i glanced up under the console and it was hard to tell what was what. Thanks for your help - you've done a great job with your boat.

You can just find the wiring right at the back of the courtesy light, tap into it then daisy chain to the new LEDs. That's what I did. Don't have to mess with anything under the dash if you're not doing RGB. I tapped into the wiring on each side of the boat. Pretty simple. I also left my courtesy lights w/o power since I never use them, and I didn't want white lights going along with my blue LEDs.

[Kxmoomba]

So would these be the updated bags? I forgot to check my build date on the boat.
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[z28ke]

So would these be the updated bags? I forgot to check my build date on the boat.
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I can’t tell in that pic. Do they each have a pair of plugs close together on the bow side at the bottom?

[z28ke]

So the ballast upgrade was a success. Had a nice wave with plenty of push with just my wife in the boat and 1/2 tank of gas. Can’t wait to see the wave with a full crew.

I started filling and soon realized I forgot a plug on one of the stock bags. Duct tape saved the day!

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Only good pic I got of the wave (without a rider) features my wife’s hind end, but figured y’all wouldn’t mind. This was with the stock bow bag full with 400lbs of lead up front, port side 100% and starboard around 80% @ 11.5mph, wake plate around 25% and surf tab @ 45%.

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[haknslash]

What were your thoughts on your sound deadening mods now that you had a chance to get the boat out? Wave looks good!

[z28ke]

What were your thoughts on your sound deadening mods now that you had a chance to get the boat out? Wave looks good!

It was worth the time and money for sure. Now you primarily hear wind and water.

[haknslash]

It was worth the time and money for sure. Now you primarily hear wind and water.

Sweet! Thanks for the update. I'll for sure be adding it to the mod list. Could you possibly that a quick vid next time you're on the boat with your cell phone or GoPro?

[Kxmoomba]

I can’t tell in that pic. Do they each have a pair of plugs close together on the bow side at the bottom?

yeah so it would be 2 on the bow side and 2 on the rear for a total of 4 on the bottom of the bag.

[z28ke]

yeah so it would be 2 on the bow side and 2 on the rear for a total of 4 on the bottom of the bag.

Correctomundo

[z28ke]

Sweet! Thanks for the update. I'll for sure be adding it to the mod list. Could you possibly that a quick vid next time you're on the boat with your cell phone or GoPro?

Yea I’ll try to remember on Saturday, planning to go out again if the weather is nice. I don’t have a YouTube account but I’ll be glad to text or email you a video if you pm me your contact.

[z28ke]

To follow up on the ballast install, I went ahead and added a T and another fitting to the vent of the 720’s.

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Everything worked great but they didn’t seem to drain as well as expected. One of the check valves didn’t seem to be working, when I put my hand over the thru hull it finally started to suck the rest of the water from the 720 through the rear bag and into the pump. I’ll have to make sure I didn’t install it backwards. Part of the issue could be an excessive amount of air in the system since it was the first time out.

I also realized the stock front bag has 2 vents/thru hulls so I need a second check valve up there.

[FamilyMan]

I just put the check valve on after (distal) to the y’d connection of the 720 bag spliced into the front bags vent.

Edit. Nevermind, just realized you were talking about the front bag. I’ll have to go through your install, didn’t recall you doing the anything to the front bag. Not going to lie, I don’t even know how to access that sucker.


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[Kxmoomba]

To follow up on the ballast install, I went ahead and added a T and another fitting to the vent of the 720’s.

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Everything worked great but they didn’t seem to drain as well as expected. One of the check valves didn’t seem to be working, when I put my hand over the thru hull it finally started to suck the rest of the water from the 720 through the rear bag and into the pump. I’ll have to make sure I didn’t install it backwards. Part of the issue could be an excessive amount of air in the system since it was the first time out.

I also realized the stock front bag has 2 vents/thru hulls so I need a second check valve up there.

If you have time could you take a pic of the bow side of the stock rear bag? I didn't look at our correctly when I asked you before and ordered the same set up you have but think now I may have to sell / return it and just order the update kit with the larger rears. Anyone want to do this upgrade with stock rears? I'll give you a deal lol

[z28ke]

If you have time could you take a pic of the bow side of the stock rear bag? I didn't look at our correctly when I asked you before and ordered the same set up you have but think now I may have to sell / return it and just order the update kit with the larger rears. Anyone want to do this upgrade with stock rears? I'll give you a deal lol

It looks the same as the stern side, has 2 ports at the bottom of the bag...

[Kxmoomba]

It looks the same as the stern side, has 2 ports at the bottom of the bag...

I am wondering what yours look like, I thought I had the "newer" bags but now I do not think I do.

[Maxman]

Were u able to access the transom vent area without drilling?

[z28ke]

Were u able to access the transom vent area without drilling?

Yes, I just cut a little slit in one of the flexible vent tubes and ran the wire up through that.

[z28ke]

So the wife has pointed out (on several occasions) a fatal flaw in the max with the bow filler cushion......no cupholders.

MagiqueW Universal stroller Cup Holder, Cup Drink Holder Fits Travel Mugs, Water Bottles Sippy Cups, 360° Rotation Handle Bar Mount for Baby Stroller,Bike,Pushchair,Wheelchair, Motorcycle https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GSMHJV7/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_GPf-CbQEMSH5G

Problem solved! Haven’t tried it with the big yeti cups yet but I think it’s a winner. Easily removable too.

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[haknslash]

Haha thanks for reminding me of the cup holders. My wife said the same thing and was like where are the cup holders up here (we use the bow filler every outing). I’ll have to get me some of those!

[trayson]

So the wife has pointed out (on several occasions) a fatal flaw in the max with the bow filler cushion......no cupholders.


I guess they're functional. Not the direction I would have gone, but it gets the job done.

Personally, I would have busted out my hole saw and put in a pair of cupholders that were flush mounted into the deck. My XLV has a pair of cupholders for the bow that are flushed into the deck at the base of the windshield. For the Max, you'd probably have to put them on the front corners of the bow deck. PLENTY of room there. In fact, one of the things that bugs me about the Max is that in the area between the tip of the bow and the back of the front bow seats is DEAD SPACE where you can't access it. Total wasted opportunity for even more storage IMO. Making that a compartment for dock lines, anchor, etc would have been so much better than making it so it's impractical to impossible to access that space.

[z28ke]

I guess they're functional. Not the direction I would have gone, but it gets the job done.

Personally, I would have busted out my hole saw and put in a pair of cupholders that were flush mounted into the deck. My XLV has a pair of cupholders for the bow that are flushed into the deck at the base of the windshield. For the Max, you'd probably have to put them on the front corners of the bow deck. PLENTY of room there. In fact, one of the things that bugs me about the Max is that in the area between the tip of the bow and the back of the front bow seats is DEAD SPACE where you can't access it. Total wasted opportunity for even more storage IMO. Making that a compartment for dock lines, anchor, etc would have been so much better than making it so it's impractical to impossible to access that space.

I’ve considered drilling and adding some nice stainless cupholders, but figured if this works it’s easy and worth a shot...

[trayson]

I’ve considered drilling and adding some nice stainless cupholders, but figured if this works it’s easy and worth a shot...

Like I said it's functional and cheap. it'll get ya by. I've got a pile of leftover stainless cupholders. Hit me up before you buy any! LOL.

[z28ke]

Like I said it's functional and cheap. it'll get ya by. I've got a pile of leftover stainless cupholders. Hit me up before you buy any! LOL.

Will do, thank you!!!

[haknslash]

Where would you even add permanent cup holders to a Max in the bow if using the cushion? The entire bow is upholstered with no flat fiberglass surfaces other than the gunnels. I kind of wished they added them to the front of the filler cushion basically in the same place as the cup holders they cover up.

[BrettLee3232]

Get 4 cup holders from Trayson & mount them here....[emoji1689]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190610/02b4d5b993840b5f8c4b01b2e9a1bfda.jpg


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[trayson]

The blue arrows is where I was thinking. Don't know if there's space at the red arrows but definitely worth considering too

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Here’s what a lot of folks have expressed interest in - adding hinges to the bulky side bench seats on the max.

Keep in mind I am adding ballast under these seats so I don’t need access to the bottom of the compartment. If I was using it for storage I would use a different type of hinge so the seat goes up and back instead of forward and down.

Note: This is a temporary test run to see if they will work. I only put 2 screws in the seat bottom and used double sided sticky tape on the seat base. I’ll go back and add more screws to the seat and drill out the base and use machine screws with washers and nylon lock nuts when I have more time.







A link to the hinges:

https://www.greatlakesskipper.com/lund-boat-complex-piano-hinge-2008307-17-1-2-x-6-1-2-inch-aluminum?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=1o1&scid=scplp8302624&sc_intid=8302624&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIzaK59IL93wIVkYzICh3vCQMOEAQYASAB EgIWwPD_BwE



This solution looks great! Any idea where I would find up and back hinges and what those would look like?

Thanks

John

[z28ke]

This solution looks great! Any idea where I would find up and back hinges and what those would look like?

Thanks

John

These are the type of hinge:

Sea-Doo New OEM Sport Boat Seat Hinge Bracket Set 230 Challenger, SP, Wake https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GVT3K4G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_SanqDb7AB02P4

But there is one major problem.... there is no cross support to mount the rearward hinge to on the max. Only solution would be to build one from hdpe.

[haknslash]

Thinking about adding RGB lighting to my Max in the off season. What controller do you guys recommend or should I just buy a roll of RGB LEDs from Amazon that come with their own controller?

[z28ke]

I used the wetsounds music controller, but I’m sure the others will work fine too.

[jcarter20]

I took a queue from you and lithttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191101/e6a05b10e06e98c84fc931594463f8af.jpg up my speakers. Good tip on the led lights. The best part is the boat was pre-wired for them, so the install was super easy.
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[Simontoftesen42]

Awesome inspiring mods to those interiors of those boats. I will probably use them myself!

[z28ke]

I took a queue from you and lithttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191101/e6a05b10e06e98c84fc931594463f8af.jpg up my speakers. Good tip on the led lights. The best part is the boat was pre-wired for them, so the install was super easy.
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That looks great!

[Ely13]

I have the same 720 bags but mine are not vented. Did you ever fill and use yours before they were vented? I was curious if they were worth venting? Was considering venting mine this off season, this season i have just been keeping one of the fittings hand tight and manually venting if needed.

[z28ke]

I have the same 720 bags but mine are not vented. Did you ever fill and use yours before they were vented? I was curious if they were worth venting? Was considering venting mine this off season, this season i have just been keeping one of the fittings hand tight and manually venting if needed.

Never tried them without, I vented them from the start. If you’re having to regularly vent them manually I’d say it’s definitely worth doing.

[htfit]

Thank you Z28ke for putting this together! You definitely saved me a lot of time and gave me some great ideas doing the upgrades on my Max.

[z28ke]

Thank you Z28ke for putting this together! You definitely saved me a lot of time and gave me some great ideas doing the upgrades on my Max.

Yessir, glad it helped! More to come soon

[haknslash]

Hey z28ke, do you have any video of the bass from your sub?

I want to add a box to the back of mine and wondering if the free air WS sub will sound decent or should i plan to toss it? I'm not looking for massive bass but would like to feel it more in the cockpit.

Brings me to another point. Have you had to add any sound deadening to under the dash? I've noticed that even with the stock free air WS sub the dash can develop a rattle on the top. i want to say it comes from under where the cell phone pocket / usb cubby is. I haven't really looked under there to see if I can make it more quiet under there.

[z28ke]

I’m not a audio expert but even with your sub being a FA I think it would benefit greatly from a box enclosure behind it. I don’t have any good vids that I recall, and doubt my cell could capture it accurately.

I’m also thinking a box might help with the rattle from the dash you are hearing, but if not it would be easy to get up in there and figure out where it’s coming from and secure it.

[RC_Hinojosa]

Hey z28ke, do you have any video of the bass from your sub?

I want to add a box to the back of mine and wondering if the free air WS sub will sound decent or should i plan to toss it? I'm not looking for massive bass but would like to feel it more in the cockpit.

Brings me to another point. Have you had to add any sound deadening to under the dash? I've noticed that even with the stock free air WS sub the dash can develop a rattle on the top. i want to say it comes from under where the cell phone pocket / usb cubby is. I haven't really looked under there to see if I can make it more quiet under there.Definitely Dynamat under the helm, it will help address rattles.



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[RC_Hinojosa]

P.s. Kilmat provides comparable sound deadening/attenuation as Dynamat at a much cheaper price. Look for it on Amazon. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200212/654dbb484090b93955badaf1f48d6db3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200212/875e384187ad97b824d02148c3ebf9c9.jpg

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[rdlangston13]

P.s. Kilmat provides comparable sound deadening/attenuation as Dynamat at a much cheaper price. Look for it on Amazon. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200212/654dbb484090b93955badaf1f48d6db3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200212/875e384187ad97b824d02148c3ebf9c9.jpg

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I swear you have like 1/10 of the wiring under the helm that I do lol


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[TXSurf4]

So I finished up the stereo install over the weekend pulling some late nights so I could take the boat out last Sunday. Everything worked..... except a major air leak from were the sub box meets the helm wall on the bottom edge. It sounded terrible!

Remember I said I should have cut the hole for the sub a little lower....the box not being able to be pushed upwards enough was keeping it from sealing at the bottom.

To fix I ordered one of these: Atrend Universal MDF Constructed Spacer for 12 Inch Sub Boxes- Adds 3/4" to Decrease Woofer Depth https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0013NWD12/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_CMegBbEX0EYEH

and cut a little bit off the top of it so it would make a perfect circle with the hole I cut. Then I drilled 8 small holes and counter sunk 4 short screws in to hold this to the wall, and 4 long screws going through the ring and into the box to hold it in place. Before I had the sub mounting screws going through the helm wall and into the box. Put some silicone around all seams for good measure.

Ignore the god awful hack job hole I cut, thank god it’s hidden lol.

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Other than that this thing bumps hard! This system is crazy loud, I couldn’t be happier.

And good lord those rev10s scream with 300watts per speaker!!!

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Going up to the in laws lake house this weekend so I’m hoping to finish up round 1 of the rgb LED install tonight or tomorrow night.

I know you did this 2 years ago but there is a lot of good info in this thread so first of all thanks for that! On your box that you mounted to the back side of the wall for your sub, is it sitting on the floor or is it "floating"? I am wanting to do the same thing to the factory sub on my Makai but I feel like the box will be floating.

[z28ke]

I know you did this 2 years ago but there is a lot of good info in this thread so first of all thanks for that! On your box that you mounted to the back side of the wall for your sub, is it sitting on the floor or is it "floating"? I am wanting to do the same thing to the factory sub on my Makai but I feel like the box will be floating.

Yes it is floating but it’s not going anywhere. Go for it!

[z28ke]

Been working on the boat again lately!

Installed 4 taco marine fender holders:

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Removed the pads from the swim platform, transom, gunnels and bow in preparation for installing my Gatorstep kit. Found out a plastic razorblade WILL scratch the gel coat. No big deal since I had already planned on buffing the entire top half of the boat before putting the pads on. Also found out a DA polisher is not very effective at cutting gel, getting handy with a harbor freight rotary now! Going to go back over it with the DA to remove the swirls from the rotary.

Here is a pic of the “bluesteel” Gatorstep, goes perfect with the boat in my opinion:

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I’ll post up some more pics when I finish the install

[RC_Hinojosa]

That blue steel looks good!

3M makes an adhesive remover wheel that you can chuck into a cordless drill if you haven't taken your old swim platform adhesive off yet.

It's like a big rubber eraser, kinda messy flinging goobers but it makes for a quick job.

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[z28ke]

That blue steel looks good!

3M makes an adhesive remover wheel that you can chuck into a cordless drill if you haven't taken your old swim platform adhesive off yet.

It's like a big rubber eraser, kinda messy flinging goobers but it makes for a quick job.

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Dang, I actually have one but didn’t think to use it! Once I realized the plastic blade left tiny scratches I just used gasoline on a rag and rubbed the hell out of it, took some time but did the trick. Gasoline seemed to work better than acetone or mineral spirits for me if anyone is wondering/future reference.

[RC_Hinojosa]

I think I spent WAY more time removing old adhesive than installing the new kit.

Definitely a PITA. [emoji28]

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[z28ke]

Yea that adhesive is no joke!

I also installed a acme 2419:

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I’ve never used an actual prop puller to change props in the past but figured I might as well order one to make it easier and save time. Not sure if others have needed to, but I had to do a little grinding on it to get it to line up right:

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[DNIXD99]

Nice. I bought the harmonic puller. I couldnt believe how easy it works.

[DNIXD99]

Such a great thread z28ke. You were the first person I got advise from when I purchased my boat. I think Im done modifying it for awhile lol. I pretty much copied you, with some adds. This weekend I put a sealed box with a 10" kicker in the dash, and a ported 12" on the amplifier/battery side. I also plumbed the WM bow bag to the 2 front pumps, and it worked great yesterday. I now have 6200lbs of ballast that auto fills.

[DNIXD99]

Rest of the pics of the bow bag

[z28ke]

Such a great thread z28ke. You were the first person I got advise from when I purchased my boat. I think Im done modifying it for awhile lol. I pretty much copied you, with some adds. This weekend I put a sealed box with a 10" kicker in the dash, and a ported 12" on the amplifier/battery side. I also plumbed the WM bow bag to the 2 front pumps, and it worked great yesterday. I now have 6200lbs of ballast that auto fills.

Nice install and thank you for posting the pics, we’re going to need some pics of the wave too!!!

I bet hooking up the hoses to the pumps was a major pia with such limited access. If I decide to add a bow bag I’m sure I’ll have some questions for you.

[DNIXD99]

Nice install and thank you for posting the pics, we’re going to need some pics of the wave too!!!

I bet hooking up the hoses to the pumps was a major pia with such limited access. If I decide to add a bow bag I’m sure I’ll have some questions for you.

Oh man....3 of us were taking turns about every 10mins. Such limited space, and very uncomfortable. Our arms are all scratched up. My buddies kept telling me they have sweat equity now......automatic invites lol. After everything we went through, if it hadnt of worked, we might of set the boat on fire lol. I had sent my design to WMs, and to the Dealer, and both gave me a thumbs up, so I was pretty confident it would work.

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[haknslash]

Yup we need to see wave pics with the bow bag! What prop are you running and any issues at your elevation DNIXD99?

[haknslash]

Been working on the boat again lately!

Installed 4 taco marine fender holders:

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Removed the pads from the swim platform, transom, gunnels and bow in preparation for installing my Gatorstep kit. Found out a plastic razorblade WILL scratch the gel coat. No big deal since I had already planned on buffing the entire top half of the boat before putting the pads on. Also found out a DA polisher is not very effective at cutting gel, getting handy with a harbor freight rotary now! Going to go back over it with the DA to remove the swirls from the rotary.

Here is a pic of the “bluesteel” Gatorstep, goes perfect with the boat in my opinion:

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I’ll post up some more pics when I finish the install

The darker color will look much better with your color scheme! Plus no more snaps or rivets :)

[DNIXD99]

Right now Im running the 2419 at 3600-3900 RPMs (11.5-12mph), but I just ordered the 2943. I could care less about top speed. I prefer the gas savings, and less wear on the motor. Im also surfing a lake that white caps often lol. You have to get out there at 7am on summer weekends.

[z28ke]

Finished up the Gatorstep, at least the pieces I’m going to do for now. Have a few more to install next winter but it’s time to get her on the lift for the summer!

Everything fit great except I had to do a lot of trimming on the pieces that go in front of the windshield.

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[z28ke]

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Went ahead and mounted the swim ladder too

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[Isaguel]

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Went ahead and mounted the swim ladder too

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Man, that gatorstep install looks really good. Color matching looks OEM. Nice job. I could never take on a job like this. Mostly because of removing the old pads and cleaning the old glue. I would prolly wreck my gel finish to the point of no recovery.
Just one comment, you should've had them put "Murder Max" on 'the swim platform, that would've killed it (get it, pun intended):cool:

[Branden967]

I love the ladder idea! Did you have to recess the bolts or nuts on the top side to have the gator step lay flat? It looks really good!

[z28ke]

Man, that gatorstep install looks really good. Color matching looks OEM. Nice job. I could never take on a job like this. Mostly because of removing the old pads and cleaning the old glue. I would prolly wreck my gel finish to the point of no recovery.
Just one comment, you should've had them put "Murder Max" on 'the swim platform, that would've killed it (get it, pun intended):cool:

Thank you for the compliment! It’s a lot darker than what came on the boat which was impossible to keep clean, plus being a 2018 it didn’t have the pieces around the top surfaces of the bow. I thought long and hard about “murder max” but decided against it for resale purposes, even though I don’t have any intentions to sell/upgrade for a while.

[z28ke]

I love the ladder idea! Did you have to recess the bolts or nuts on the top side to have the gator step lay flat? It looks really good!

I can’t take any credit for that as a few others here have already done it, once I showed my wife a picture of one she said “yep”.

I didn’t drill through it. I just used some 1” stainless steel screws from the bottom and put some marine sealant/adhesive on the threads to hopefully keep them in there. Seems like that has worked for others.

[z28ke]

Not a boat mod but my wife had this made for the boat dock:

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[Isaguel]

Been working on the boat again lately!

Installed 4 taco marine fender holders:

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Hey MM, been looking at the taco marine and found these:

https://www.boatoutfitters.com/stainless-steel-quick-release-fender-lock-cleat.

Question, how big is the threaded portion on the one's you installed?. This one requires a gaping 3/4" hole to be drilled into the hull. Is that correct? Did u install a different size? I mean, I'm ok if that is what it is, just want to make sure before I commit. Seems like a pretty big hole. And the receiver base measures 1.5". That's pretty big. My buddy has phender pro's in his MC and I don't remember them being that big.

[z28ke]

Hey MM, been looking at the taco marine and found these:

https://www.boatoutfitters.com/stainless-steel-quick-release-fender-lock-cleat.

Question, how big is the threaded portion on the one's you installed?. This one requires a gaping 3/4" hole to be drilled into the hull. Is that correct? Did u install a different size? I mean, I'm ok if that is what it is, just want to make sure before I commit. Seems like a pretty big hole. And the receiver base measures 1.5". That's pretty big. My buddy has phender pro's in his MC and I don't remember them being that big.

Yea I’m pretty sure I used a 3/4” hole saw so I’m sure that’s it.

[Isaguel]

For anyone interested, I found these quick release fender holders. They are a little smaller but also require a smaller hole drilled into the hull. Hole size is 5/8" vs 3/4". The base is 1" vs 1.5 " on the TACO. You could drill these with a 5/8" drill bit, prolly harder to chip gel coat with a bit over a hole saw, I think.
A little cheaper too.
Has anyone seen these or purchased from this site. It seems legit.Found it on google search, and we all know how anything on google has to be 100% legit!:)

https://www.cpperformance.com/p-73986-stainless-steel-soft-touch-quick-release-pin-style-fender-cleats-516.aspx?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI89qY__666QIVQ8rICh0XHgH UEAEYASAFEgLeLvD_BwE

[z28ke]

Now that the boat is home for the winter it’s time for a good detail, so I procrastinated a bit and cut the tabs off the engine tray for easier removal as seen on some of the new boats:

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I used this pic someone posted on the forum for reference:

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[RC_Hinojosa]

That's a great idea, now you don't have to pop out the struts to remove the storage bins.

I should do that with my over-engine tray.

Well done sir!

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[z28ke]

Thanks, dealing with the struts was a hassle. Hopefully now I’ll be more likely to check the oil regularly lol.

[dakota4ce]

That's a great idea, now you don't have to pop out the struts to remove the storage bins.

I should do that with my over-engine tray.

Well done sir!

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The 2021s are cut already, it’s brilliant! I was pleasantly surprised.


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[996scott]

Dang, not on my 2021 Craz it isn't. Guess i will be modifying my tray this weekend. it is a pain to get out as it is.

[haknslash]

Yup I’ll be cutting mine as well. I had posted that pic once I noticed the new ones came that way and knew I had to do the mod in the off season. Does it slide out eas now?

[z28ke]

Yup I’ll be cutting mine as well. I had posted that pic once I noticed the new ones came that way and knew I had to do the mod in the off season. Does it slide out eas now?

Well I need to trim another 1/2” or so off each side to make it easy. Right now I have to turn it a little sideways to get it it in/out but wanted err on the conservative side with my first cut.

[rockymtnsurfer]

Well I need to trim another 1/2” or so off each side to make it easy. Right now I have to turn it a little sideways to get it it in/out but wanted err on the conservative side with my first cut.

Do you have to squeeze the box a hair? I do to get around the struts......just a slight squeeze. Should I trim off more?
D

[dakota4ce]

Do you have to squeeze the box a hair? I do to get around the struts......just a slight squeeze. Should I trim off more?
D

Yes. Gotta squeeze!


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[haknslash]

I figure the squeeze is inevitable but I’ll take that any day over what you normally have to do if you don’t remove the struts.

[Dank]

Next up....sound deadener. I used it on the underside of the engine tray, sides of the dividers in the engine compartment, under the v-drive cover and midship floor panel. I’m not sure how well it’ll do with the heat in the engine compartment but I tested a bit with a torch and think it’ll do fine.

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In hindsight I probably should have used this in the engine compartment: Car Insulation - 4' x 10' Roll (40 Sqft) Sound Deadener & Heat Barrier Mat - Automotive Lightweight Thermal Insulation https://www.amazon.com/dp/B016QUS1YE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_rzSyCb4FET75A


Did you tape it on with thermal tape , or did it require adhesive spray also? I would want the option to be able to remove easily for resale (when / if)?

Did it make a big difference? Thanks!!!

[SONIC]

Why would you want to remove for resale? Who wouldn't want a quieter boat?

[BigOrange]

I've put the same stuff on my Mojo. Planning on doing the floor panel this winter if I get to it. You definitely do NOT want to fool with trying to take it off after it is applied. To answer the question, it has it's own adhesive backing and the tape is just for the seams.

[z28ke]

I've put the same stuff on my Mojo. Planning on doing the floor panel this winter if I get to it. You definitely do NOT want to fool with trying to take it off after it is applied. To answer the question, it has it's own adhesive backing and the tape is just for the seams.

^ bingo!

In hindsight I would use this for the bottom of the engine tray and sides of the engine walls:

Design Engineering 050130 Boom Mat Under-Hood Thermal Acoustic Lining, 32" x 54" x .75" (12 sq. feet) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055VTOBA/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_uT8QFb38956GB

[Cloe15]

Hi, do you have any pictures of the plug light lit up at night? Would you go with it again? Just bought a 2018 Max and am thinking of going with ty e same light setup.

[z28ke]

Hi, do you have any pictures of the plug light lit up at night? Would you go with it again? Just bought a 2018 Max and am thinking of going with ty e same light setup.

I replied to your pm but figured I’d share here as well. It’s a good light especially considering the lower price point when compared to some of the other brands, but when mounted at the bottom of the max hull I think it’s a little deep in the water. I’m considering adding another pair of lights a little higher up and spread apart more since my lake isn’t the clearest. If you have clear water the titan2 would likely be all you need. Here’s a pic:

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[KiloRomeo]

^ bingo!

In hindsight I would use this for the bottom of the engine tray and sides of the engine walls:


Are these the only places you would put it?

Would you bother with the v-drive access?

[Byezb]

I replied to your pm but figured I’d share here as well. It’s a good light especially considering the lower price point when compared to some of the other brands, but when mounted at the bottom of the max hull I think it’s a little deep in the water. I’m considering adding another pair of lights a little higher up and spread apart more since my lake isn’t the clearest. If you have clear water the titan2 would likely be all you need. Here’s a pic:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210308/04698de4ab93e96cfe0e1cbb14f19444.jpg


Did you have to add a relay or just tie into existing wire with the titan 2?

[Holdmybeer]

Did you have to add a relay or just tie into existing wire with the titan 2?

Z28Ke,

I have the same question. I found the pre-wired switch in the engine bay, but 3A won't work. Not sure where to mount a relay if needed.

Thanks

[Cloe15]

Thanks for the pics! that looks good. that will work for the lake we are mostly on!

[z28ke]

Z28Ke,

I have the same question. I found the pre-wired switch in the engine bay, but 3A won't work. Not sure where to mount a relay if needed.

Thanks

Sorry for the delayed responses y’all, been busy with the baby at home and trying to get my c10 truck project to a stopping point before lake time!

I went with rgb underwater lights, so I have a controller wired in under the helm and I believe I pulled power for that right off the positive Buss bar.

Correct, I wouldn’t want to run those off a 3amp circuit. Best place to put a relay is under the helm and fish the wires down the starboard side gunwale using some really stiff bailing wire to attach it to and pull through.

[z28ke]

Are these the only places you would put it?

Would you bother with the v-drive access?

Definitely on the v-drive access cover, I think that probably made the most difference.

[haknslash]

Did you ever end up flipping the check valve when you said your midship bags wouldn’t drain or prune up all the way? Is the “loop”necessary by the midship bags or can I just run my midship vent tube lines and T directly to the rear bags? I’m about to install my midship vents and just trying to make sure it fills, drains and vents correctly using the check valves. There is no markings on the check valves for which direction is the path of flow.

[z28ke]

Did you ever end up flipping the check valve when you said your midship bags wouldn’t drain or prune up all the way? Is the “loop”necessary by the midship bags or can I just run my midship vent tube lines and T directly to the rear bags? I’m about to install my midship vents and just trying to make sure it fills, drains and vents correctly using the check valves. There is no markings on the check valves for which direction is the path of flow.

The only thing I’ve changed since the original install is adding a T and using both vent ports on the top of the midship bags. I don’t recall if I posted pics of that but I will later today. The loops may not be necessary but the system works fine so I’ve left it alone, no issues with air getting trapped that I’ve noticed. It drains completely too, I’ll usually wait to drain the last 10-20% when I’m cruising home to help move the water to the stern.

To figure out the check valve direction blow in it with your mouth (lol sounds funny but it works)!

[haknslash]

The only thing I’ve changed since the original install is adding a T and using both vent ports on the top of the midship bags. I don’t recall if I posted pics of that but I will later today. The loops may not be necessary but the system works fine so I’ve left it alone, no issues with air getting trapped that I’ve noticed. It drains completely too, I’ll usually wait to drain the last 10-20% when I’m cruising home to help move the water to the stern.

To figure out the check valve direction blow in it with your mouth (lol sounds funny but it works)!

Sounds like what I was envisioning. I was planning on relocating my rear bag overflow from the bottom how it comes on the 2019+ Max to moving them to the top of the rear bags like how they come on 2018 Max and most other bag systems I’ve seen on various boats. Something like this below. Is that how yours ended up being?

https://i.imgur.com/YAQMuVX.jpg

[z28ke]

I have two vents t’d from the top of the rear bags just like the mids in the pic, and you’ll want the check valve after the T that connects the rear and mid vents. See my lovely edit below; the green “squiggly” is where you put the check valves.

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[haknslash]

Thanks for the info! I’ll need to order some extra connectors to have two vents on the rear bags but no biggie. So the check valve basically will end up sort of next to the overflow thru hull fitting? Good to know!

[z28ke]

Yep, the check valve is the last thing in the system before the thru hull fitting.

[haknslash]

Yep, the check valve is the last thing in the system before the thru hull fitting.

Got it and thanks for confirming. My boat is 1.5 hours away so I'm trying to do this upgrade in one trip with everything I need heh.

I should have realized I could have just stuck my finger in the check valve to see which way the flap went but yes blowing also works lol. The housing is also larger on the side the flapper has to fold into so that also should have been a clue for me lol. Regardless I went ahead and marked the flow direction so I don't forget when it comes time to install next week.

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Based off your recommendation I realized I did not have enough bag and hose fittings to do two vents per each rear bag instead of one so I put in an order at WM this morning for them. I also ordered another pair of 1" Tee fittings so that I could make this plumbing network below. I think this is how I should do it similar to yours. I'm going to move my ballast sensor in between the check valve and the Tee fitting. Thoughts?

https://i.imgur.com/l5HXtBm.jpg

[jnr4817]

I’ve got Enzo’s in my mojo. They drain and fill well but after a bit of surfing it seems
I get a lot of air back in the bag. Does these check valves prevent that from happening? If so, I also plan to add a check valve to my
Front bow bag. Thanks for any info.

[Ferns]

Please make a vid of your install. I have the WM upgrade kit as well and waiting to install once the boat is out of storage. BTW.. you are a diagram genius! So much easier to understand then trying to read the description of what is happening.

[HFarr]

My new Makai gearbox has one heck of a high pitched scream when you put the rpm's to it. Did your Max do that, and did the sound dampening knock it down? We noticed it on the demo ride with the dealer too, and he said that's just a v drive for you. I was immediatly thinking about doing what you did.

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[haknslash]

Please make a vid of your install. I have the WM upgrade kit as well and waiting to install once the boat is out of storage. BTW.. you are a diagram genius! So much easier to understand then trying to read the description of what is happening.

Hah I like making the diagrams as it helps me understand what I need to do as well and what fittings I need to buy. Some of them are kind of pricey for what they are! Glad you enjoy them if it helps ya too!

I will for sure have a video of the install and how it does filling and draining. Hopefully no issues but if there are I’ll be sure to mention it and figure out what to do next. I’m glad this community likes to share tips and help everyone out. I’ve learned a lot from the community here and very thankful of it!

[BigOrange]

I’ve got Enzo’s in my mojo. They drain and fill well but after a bit of surfing it seems
I get a lot of air back in the bag. Does these check valves prevent that from happening? If so, I also plan to add a check valve to my
Front bow bag. Thanks for any info.

“They” say not to do that on the front bow bag because it is piggybacked off the hard center tank, which you could supposedly tin can when pulling vacuum. I have doubts since even with the check valves on my rears the bags almost never get all the water out and suck flat.

[z28ke]

My new Makai gearbox has one heck of a high pitched scream when you put the rpm's to it. Did your Max do that, and did the sound dampening knock it down? We noticed it on the demo ride with the dealer too, and he said that's just a v drive for you. I was immediatly thinking about doing what you did.

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Yes the raptors are pretty loud IMO, the sound dampening was certainly worth the time and money.

[haknslash]

Getting there....

Of course I forgot some tools I needed so I couldn’t finish but it’s getting there. Getting the tubing on sucks lol.

https://i.imgur.com/31oes3n.jpg

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[TXSurf4]

Getting there....

Of course I forgot some tools I needed so I couldn’t finish but it’s getting there. Getting the tubing on sucks lol.

https://i.imgur.com/31oes3n.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/uD2C3jw.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ZpLQidt.jpg

Is all of that 1" tubing? Is it the same size tubing that the boat comes with?

[haknslash]

Yes it’s 1”

[z28ke]

Added some rubrail docking lights to the boat last week before taking it up to the lake. I used these: https://www.itc-marine.com/product/led-rubrail-light/

Warning: cutting the rubrail out is not for the faint of heart. I used a combination of a dremel, angle grinder with cutoff wheel, and hacksaw to make the cut.

For the wiring I found the spade connector for the heater fan “high” in the harness under the helm and ran positive to that(since I don’t have a heater), and ground to the negative bussbar under there.

Here’s some pics

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[Holdmybeer]

Was it necessary to cut the rub rail?
The specs show them mounting over top the rail. I know to get wires and such into the boat you have to do something, but I figured just remove a screw and enlarge the hole.

I am probably missing something here, but you do have Kahunas and patience to get that done. The look great, good job.

[z28ke]

It wouldn’t be flush mounted without cutting the rubrail.

[Holdmybeer]

It wouldn’t be flush mounted without cutting the rubrail.

That makes why more sense now.

If you don't mind be asking, how is the seat riser working out? I was thinking of doing the same thing to my Mojo. Read some review about the pin sticking and such.

Any input would be welcomed. Thanks

[haknslash]

Yes interested to hear how the seat riser has been performing. I wouldn’t mind adding one to mine so that I don’t have to use the bolster on rougher days.

If I boated at night often or lived on the lake I would be installing those LEDs. I’ve seen others install them and they look right at home on the Max IMO.

[z28ke]

We love the seat pedestal! In fact we leave it at its tallest position all the time so really no need for it’s adjustability. Funny you mention reading about the pin because once in a blue moon the damn thing will drop all the way down for some reason, but hasn’t since I used a wrench to get the pin really tight.

[PJSurf]

@Murder - Did you use the 50 or the 80 mil Kilmat? Also, what tape did you use for the edges? How did you decide to lay each square to get the most use of the mat?

[z28ke]

@Murder - Did you use the 50 or the 80 mil Kilmat? Also, what tape did you use for the edges? How did you decide to lay each square to get the most use of the mat?

I used the 80 mil, and just kind of eyeballed how to arrange it to be most efficient.

For tape I believe I used this, but any other similar brands should work fine:

Noico Tape Finishing Sealing Tape for car Sound deadening Installation https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071HX8JNK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_WK1S7R4CAZ4TK6MBXYKC?_ encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[Holdmybeer]

We love the seat pedestal! In fact we leave it at its tallest position all the time so really no need for it’s adjustability. Funny you mention reading about the pin because once in a blue moon the damn thing will drop all the way down for some reason, but hasn’t since I used a wrench to get the pin really tight.

Based on this and others across the internet, I went with it. Hoping the pin doesn't cause us issue. I like the idea of not sitting on the bolster at all times.

[Holdmybeer]

I used the 80 mil, and just kind of eyeballed how to arrange it to be most efficient.

For tape I believe I used this, but any other similar brands should work fine:

Noico Tape Finishing Sealing Tape for car Sound deadening Installation https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071HX8JNK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_WK1S7R4CAZ4TK6MBXYKC?_ encoding=UTF8&psc=1

I used 50mil just for ease of use and availability. It is nice that you can also double up during application at get 100mil. However, some spots the 50mil will bend easier so I left it single layer to save my fingers. I actually did both sides on the engine dividers completely. Trying to keep the plastic from vibrating in the tracks.

Not to hi-jack, but is it worth pulling the floor panel up? The v-drive cover, and dividers made sense, not sure about the floor.

[z28ke]

To be honest it’s hard to say about the floor since I did it all at the same time. I’d try what you have and go from there before going through the trouble.

[PJSurf]

I ordered a batch, I'll try the dog house 1st then maybe under the center engine hatch storage tray.

[HFarr]

I ordered some 3/8" thick adhesive backed sound insulation and did just the transmission cover on my Makai. It made a difference, but you can still hear the whine. I will do the floor panel next. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210516/132817c20fba580cbad8e633c25dc52a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210516/3cea1f376ea21af5eb689a1b46094988.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210516/894507591237b461f1de25c7c5a06df1.jpg

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[gphrph]

Kenny, I installed the seat riser on Moe Bubbles. Best mod I have done so far. Supper easy to install. 10 minutes maybe.

[Holdmybeer]

Followed this as I said before and did the dog house and the engine dividers. Was not that loud at all over the weekend. Installing my engine tray this weekend and I will cover the under side of it also.

Took advice and install the adjustable driver's seat mount. 12-18" - sitting on 15" increase now to see over the window tint. Wife loves it and she doesn't need the bolster now unless docking. Much more comfortable on the legs.

[haknslash]

Kenny, I installed the seat riser on Moe Bubbles. Best mod I have done so far. Supper easy to install. 10 minutes maybe.

I'm thinking of getting one. Wife always has to stand when pulling me and I always have to sit on the bolster when it's rough and I need to see good. Is the pedestal secure and doesn't wobble? I want a taller base but also want it to feel tight and secure with no major wobble or movement when on the lake. Let me know y'alls thoughts who have upgraded the riser to the Garelick/EEz-In Blue Water Pedestal. Would love to hear a long term review now that the murder max has had it for a while.

[Holdmybeer]

I asked this same question a couple pages back. I know I bought 1 based on his answer.

We set ours at 15". My Mojo factory is 9", new unit all the way down is 12".
We love it. So much easier to see and the bolster now supports your legs and my wife does not have to stand. If you get the pin 100% engaged, then tighten the handle all the way, it does not move. We leave the swivel slightly loose so we can rotate, but no other movement.

Install is super easy, phillips screwdriver and about 10 minutes while the family was getting packed for the lake.