New 2018 Moomba model?

[aquavette]

I really do not get the shroud of secrecy around the new updates and models... I don't understand how something gets put up on the website and we see it then an hour later they pull it down.

Me either.

[aquavette]

There has been ALOT of boat shuffling here in Texas lately, that is for dang sure!!

Still undecided myself.

Almost 4 weeks ago:
"This great new model sounds like a good fit for you, have pics and pricing, but can't show you, or tell you anything until August."

Uhmmmm, ok? :rolleyes:

(I understand they have one available now. $68k.)

[mikenehrkorn]

16 people including a T-Rex and Gorilla get on but nobody sits in the bow. Give me a break.

Click on "View Teaser"

https://www.moomba.com

And don't forget a really large sandwich.... :)

[DFTR Josh]

16 people including a T-Rex and Gorilla get on but nobody sits in the bow. Give me a break.

Click on "View Teaser"

https://www.moomba.com
I'm going to say a very creative video but to top it off they should have had a person bring a kitchen sink, LOL :cool:

[Cactus371]

I'm going to say a very creative video but to top it off they should have had a person bring a kitchen sink, LOL :cool:


Yea the kitchen sink would have really put it over the top. [emoji23][emoji23]


2017 Supra SA 400

[icemanftr]

16 people including a T-Rex and Gorilla get on but nobody sits in the bow. Give me a break.

Click on "View Teaser"

https://www.moomba.com

A 24' boat would fit 18-19 people. [emoji119] "max"imize


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[KnoxMojo]

Trevor with the key flip was awesome...I know the guy helping him carry that big sandwich......

[northern mondo owner]

Called dealer for specs. Told me to build for quote and maybe 4 weeks. That's towards end of summer with kids and I can't build one yet so there goes a week. A lot of 2017 up here since bad cold windy and rainy summer. Who has them in stock so I can reach out to them

[RickT]

Called dealer for specs. Told me to build for quote and maybe 4 weeks. That's towards end of summer with kids and I can't build one yet so there goes a week. A lot of 2017 up here since bad cold windy and rainy summer. Who has them in stock so I can reach out to them

Northern Mondo,

Where are you located and I will see which dealer is closest.

[snowking]

Called dealer for specs. Told me to build for quote and maybe 4 weeks. That's towards end of summer with kids and I can't build one yet so there goes a week. A lot of 2017 up here since bad cold windy and rainy summer. Who has them in stock so I can reach out to them

My dealer told me November I put down a deposit on a 18 a month ago

[russellsmojo]

I was able to see the max yesterday. It's a lot of boat!! Going to be a seller.


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[northern mondo owner]

South eastern Wisconsin

[northern mondo owner]

Heading to Utah to see a client for a week the week of the 14th. See they maybe have a blue and black but hate those colors. If only generic colors this year it would not be cool. Give me black and white

[sivs1]

Marine products in salt lake has a silver and white Max.

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[deerfield]

South eastern Wisconsin

The Boathouse of Lauderdale Lakes, maybe?

[RickT]

The Boathouse of Lauderdale Lakes, maybe?

Agree. 3 stores in that area.

[northern mondo owner]

Was told to go online and build and then 4 weeks. That's end of summer vacation. I'll check out one in Utah maybe when I'm out there in 2 weeks or buy a blow out craz since none are moving up here due to cooler weather and rainy summer. My lake has seen the fewest new boats ever rhis year. Blow outs and new model prices are gonna have to be super aggressive and a late 2017 early 2018 buyers market

[DFTR Josh]

Marine products in salt lake has a silver and white Max.
Sounds like they found a buyer for it already...

Heading to Utah to see a client for a week the week of the 14th. See they maybe have a blue and black but hate those colors. If only generic colors this year it would not be cool. Give me black and white
Marine Products (www.marine-products.com) just got a white and black SA550 and it's something else. They did recently get a black and white Craz but it was out the door that week with a buyer.

[NoleAlum]

Anyone have pictures or details on pricing?

[dusty2221]

Ash spent an hour on the water in it today when it came thru Lewisville with Drew....she was very impressed. May have sealed the deal on filling the empty garage space. "The technology is unreal, it's so smart"

[DFTR Josh]

Ash spent an hour on the water in it today when it came thru Lewisville with Drew....she was very impressed. May have sealed the deal on filling the empty garage space. "The technology is unreal, it's so smart"
Can Skiers just let it out yet... I'm ready to discuss the awesome of this boat!

[BrettLee3232]

Can Skiers just let it out yet... I'm ready to discuss the awesome of this boat!

For real! I'm curious of the dirty deets. I'm wondering if this is suppose to surf better than the mojo? I know a lot of people have trouble dialing in the mojo (which boggles my mind lol)


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[kaneboats]

I think its time for a leaked pic?????????????

[DFTR Josh]

i think its time for a leaked pic?????????????
"no soup for you!"

[Cody]

New Supra is sweeeeet! That is all I can say.

[BrettLee3232]

I think its time for a leaked pic?????????????

Shhhhhhh don't tell Rick....

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[trayson]

Rawr!!!!!!!!!!

[gravity]

Osmosis Facebook page...... Look quick. Its big and ugly. One step above a heyday if you ask me.

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[sivs1]

MAXTASTIC

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[Britome]

I just saw one. Took pics but can't post. Imagine a mojo with a wider bow for people to sit in and as much as possible stripped down. Only a small computer display. No guages whatsoever, simpler upholstery, etc.


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[That Guy]

I got to surf the demo boat yesterday, had a great time. Don't think I'll be a buyer due to how stripped down it is, but I'm sure it will be a good seller.

[Mjhknox]

I got to surf the demo boat yesterday, had a great time. Don't think I'll be a buyer due to how stripped down it is, but I'm sure it will be a good seller.Where did you ride it?

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[That Guy]

Where did you ride it?

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Norris Lake

[MJHSupra]

Norris Lake

I was out there. That's what I thought it was.

[NoleAlum]

When is official release coming? Thought it was today...

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[That Guy]

I was out there. That's what I thought it was.

Nice! Were you in the blue Supra?


When is official release coming? Thought it was today...

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The 9th....Wednesday.

[DFTR Josh]

I got to surf the demo boat yesterday, had a great time. Don't think I'll be a buyer due to how stripped down it is, but I'm sure it will be a good seller.
Interested in a full review once the info drops tomorrow.

[jstenger]

It's Wednesday! Show us the MAX!

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[jmvotto]

They got to wait til west coast is up as well

[Stazi]

[emoji849]


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[Bonte4]

Unleash the Max beast already!!!

[RickT]

Should be around 2 or 3 Eastern. :)

[Bonte4]

Should be around 2 or 3 Eastern. :)

How about a new teaser while we wait???

[jstenger]

They got to wait til west coast is up as wellThey should get up early today.

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[chester]

This is why we open presents in the morning on Christmas. Can't stand this wait!


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[stevemarich]

They should get up early today.

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West coast is up and been waiting for a couple of hours already

[Prospersigman]

I'm beginning to feel like we are going to be let down after all this hype and teasing there is no way it can live up to it...

[icemanftr]

Been up since 5:30 pst. We waiting on North Korea to wake up too? Lol


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[BrettLee3232]

This reminds me of the new swim step ladder on MB. It got hyped up so much then when it finally got released it was like "mehhhhh" lol

I just hope they update the boat builder so I can color my next Mojo [emoji1384]

Oh & I hope they release all the model videos.


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[13mobiusLSV]

I feel like this is the type of group who would have to have their sweet 16 birthday at 14 years old.


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[5:00]

This reminds me of the new swim step ladder on MB. It got hyped up so much then when it finally got released it was like "mehhhhh" lol

Just get ready with the "Moomba Max" towels.

[rdlangston13]

Saw a 2018 Mojo Pro today, they got something interesting going on with the auto flow surf tabs...


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[snyderaaron]

Welll....were waiting

[Stazi]

My balls can only get so blue!


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[BrettLee3232]

My balls can only get so blue!


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[emoji23][emoji24]🤣[emoji1384]


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[BrettLee3232]

Should be around 2 or 3 Eastern. :)

It's 3:26 Eastern!!!! Rick WTF???? Lol [emoji12]


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[DFTR Josh]

Saw a 2018 Mojo Pro today, they got something interesting going on with the auto flow surf tabs...
Is this what you seen?

[Moomba Press]

LIVE!

https://www.moomba.com/2018-updates

[BrettLee3232]

https://www.moomba.com/2018-updates

It's live [emoji136]🏼*♂️


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[jmvotto]

spec sheet is off Is the boat 102 width with trailer or without

[07STI]

My balls can only get so blue!


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Hope you've been relieved. :D

[BrettLee3232]

Saw a 2018 Mojo Pro today, they got something interesting going on with the auto flow surf tabs...


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Post a pic now that it's released.

I'm anxious to see how I can retro this extra actuator lol


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[trayson]

Yeah, what's up with the Flow 3.0 with another actuator? I'm curious what they're doing with that... Would love to see some pics.

[goose]

Kymmie will be posting a pic soon of the 2nd actuator on the Flow 3.0. The system is Patent Pending and hopefully we will be issued a patent on it soon. I think when you try this system you will really be impressed....

[Moomba Press]

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2018 Flow 3.0 Plate

[Stazi]

Where are you seeing this on the Moomba site? I can't find it.


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[trayson]

26096
2018 Flow 3.0 Plate

Damn, that's cool. (although similar to what wave control or GoSurfAssist did manually on their tabs.) But that's straight up legit.

Good Job Skier's Choice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[goose]

As you can see in the picture, the Flow 3.0 plate basically adds an actuator ON the main plate. As the main plate goes down, the secondary actuator moves the inside plate down also. This creates additional side force of yaw to the boat which in turn pushes the rooster tail away from the surf side. By doing this, you can run a boat even more level which again adds the maximum amount of displacement, giving the largest wave possible. It also greatly improves transfer ability. With the Flow 3.0 plates, you can basically run the boat with completely level ballast side to side and the plate alone can change the roll enough and the second plate cleans up the wave to allow transfers back and forth without changing ballast or passenger location.

[Stazi]

Now THAT is cool!


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[trayson]

As you can see in the picture, the Flow 3.0 plate basically adds an actuator ON the main plate. As the main plate goes down, the secondary actuator moves the inside plate down also. This creates additional side force of yaw to the boat which in turn pushes the rooster tail away from the surf side. By doing this, you can run a boat even more level which again adds the maximum amount of displacement, giving the largest wave possible. It also greatly improves transfer ability. With the Flow 3.0 plates, you can basically run the boat with completely level ballast side to side and the plate alone can change the roll enough and the second plate cleans up the wave to allow transfers back and forth without changing ballast or passenger location.

INNOVATION!!!!!!

Love this. Keep pushing limits. Badass.

[NoleAlum]

26096
2018 Flow 3.0 Plate

Assuming Max won't have Flow 3.0? How do we see pictures of the help of Max? Assume the dealers will have standard language but can you all highlight the differences between Max and Mojo or Mojo Pro?

Thanks.

[BrettLee3232]

26096
2018 Flow 3.0 Plate

I hope you guys change your mind and make this an option on all models! Not just the Pro.

Pro is nice and all but what if the wife wants to do some metal flake? Can't get that with the pro, but I do want this 3.0 plate [emoji631]


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[trayson]

Assuming Max won't have Flow 3.0? How do we see pictures of the help of Max? Assume the dealers will have standard language but can you all highlight the differences between Max and Mojo or Mojo Pro?

Thanks.

On the video for the Max, it says "Optional Flow 2.0 surf system". so looks like no 3.0 on it for 2018...

[icemanftr]

I wanna see actual pics of max. One shot is not enough on site. [emoji3]


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[13mobiusLSV]

On the video for the Max, it says "Optional Flow 2.0 surf system". so looks like no 3.0 on it for 2018...

I think mojo pro is only way to get 3.0


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[rdlangston13]

New pro surf tabs https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170809/82a8e6d973adfd011122ab198247fbbe.jpg

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[Stazi]

I wouldn't mind that exhaust pipe if it doesn't cost an arm and a leg.


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[DFTR Josh]

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My local shop Marine Products has had a max for a couple of weeks. Already sold and making memories with the new owners.


DFTR Josh
Moomba/Supra
www.marine-products.com
(Discount code: DFTR)

[Stazi]

So what's the sticker on this puppy.....I'm talking realistic OTD pricing?


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[padge]

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[gravity]

How much more crap could they possibly hang off the back of these things. Its getting rediculous.

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[sandm]

gravity, I was thinking the same thing. 2 actuators for each side and one for the middle? that's a lot of money in lenco down the road.

does look like a big barge.

[moombahighrider]

How much more crap could they possibly hang off the back of these things. Its getting rediculous.

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If hanging more crap off the back gets me a better wave, I have no problem with it. All in the name of innovation. If SC doesn't do it, one of the others will. I'm impressed they are making these things happen so quickly.

[jmvotto]

Damn, that's cool. (although similar to what wave control or GoSurfAssist did manually on their tabs.) But that's straight up legit.

Good Job Skier's Choice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's close to version 1 GSA but the went to a fixed in version 2.0

Hope this is easy to dial in , people have a tough enough time with 2 actuators and

A wake plate , add 2 more directional actuators and it could be chaos

[gravity]

I remember part of the draw with an inboard was not having stuff to fall on when around the back of the boat. The new platforms hardly even cover all the tabs now days. I just think its to a point that it is too much. Same with the free board. They all look like bricks going down the lake.

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[stevemarich]

It's close to version 1 GSA but the went to a fixed in version 2.0

Hope this is easy to dial in , people have a tough enough time with 2 actuators and

A wake plate , add 2 more directional actuators and it could be chaos

I though the way those new actuators were explained, is they go down and up at the same time the surf plates do, it didn't sound like you can adjust them separately, could be wrong, been a busy day , having to speed read through everything trying to keep up today

[jmvotto]

Is the boat beam width 102 ?

[Stazi]

Apparently it's hull more or less like a Helix with an extra 2.5'


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[russellsmojo]

I remember part of the draw with an inboard was not having stuff to fall on when around the back of the boat. The new platforms hardly even cover all the tabs now days. I just think its to a point that it is too much. Same with the free board. They all look like bricks going down the lake.

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You make a great point. I would be ok with the platforms growing a little. It would also make them look proportionate to the boat size.


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[bsharer]

I'm all about simple and cheap. Starting at 60k isn't cheap. But I guess cheap is relative to everyone's unique situation. Regardless we all ended up with boats because in some way we all have a little extra to afford this luxury. They know this. That's why you have boats from one extreme to the other. Which is why I don't get where this boat fits in. With limited info, but a lot of hype, there appears to be no defining feature that really sets it apart from any competition. The newest promo video does not show off anything that makes this one stand out.

[gravity]

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[BrettLee3232]

I'm all about simple and cheap. Starting at 60k isn't cheap. But I guess cheap is relative to everyone's unique situation. Regardless we all ended up with boats because in some way we all have a little extra to afford this luxury. They know this. That's why you have boats from one extreme to the other. Which is why I don't get where this boat fits in. With limited info, but a lot of hype, there appears to be no defining feature that really sets it apart from any competition. The newest promo video does not show off anything that makes this one stand out.

First off, in today's market 60k is cheap for a 22 1/2' boat. There's nothing in this class that can touch it.

Second, the only hype has been on this forum. There will always be hype when someone hears or sees something new through the grapevine. Moomba didn't announce this publicly till July 27th. It's all been here say on this forum. Leaving everyone to guess or spill some secrets. Which in turn causes "hype".

Third, is is just an upgraded Helix. They take out a lot of the extras to keep prices competitive. This is also a brand new hull that is super deep. Again nothing like it in this market.

Personally i would rather get a mojo but I do believe they will sell a lot of these boats. It's perfect for the family that doesn't have a ton of money but still wants to get out on the water on a new boat.




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[Stazi]

I predict they will be a huge seller. A lot of boat for the money!


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[goose]

I will try to answer some of the questions....

The Max beam is a true 102". The Helix and Max are actually wider than the Craz and Mojo.

The Flow 3.0 plates are only available on the Pro. For 2018, we are leaving it exclusive on the Pro, however, hopefully when we get the patent I would expect to see it optional on the other models. And before anyone asks, I am sure there will be a way to make it retrofittable. We used the same base hinge plate at the bottom but obviously would require new plates, upper mounts, and additional actuators. The 2nd actuators are not adjustable. They run full extension when the main plate goes down, and run full retraction when main plate goes up. You can still adjust main plate, but with AutoWake and our settings, we are trying to make it where you never have to adjust the plate. I think you will find the factory default settings to work for the majority of users and ballast conditions.

Also, as others have said, the Helix and Max are designed for a slightly different buyer than the Mondo, Craz, Mojo. You will notice some new design features in the Helix and Max with unique dash and glovebox designs, storage solutions, and crazy deep hulls, but the Mondo, Craz, and Mojo do have nicer appointments on the inside. We are really just trying to design more options to meet the different customer demands in the market.

As to the swim platform size, I agree the transom is getting larger, but if we put a larger swim platform on the transom, it would interfere with the Surf Wave. That is why it is currently the size it is.

Hope that helps.

[russellsmojo]

The Max beam is a true 102". The Helix and Max are actually wider than the Craz and Mojo.


Good explanations. Help me understand why the two entry boats have a 102 beam and the flagship boats do not?


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[goose]

Good explanations. Help me understand why the two entry boats have a 102 beam and the flagship boats do not?


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It is simply a matter of continuous improvement. The Helix and Max were the last 2 boats we developed. We have slowly grown the average boat width of 98" that we used for a long time, to the new more common standard of 102". Most people don't know this, but not all international countries allow boats to be 102". Australia specifically has a requirement for transportation that trailers can be no wider than 2.5 meters. That is just a little over 98". Back in the day, most boats were in the 95" to 98" beam so they could be used anywhere in the world. However, most manufacturers started going wider because there is quite a bit of value in the wider beam. In Australia, they have found out ways to transport them and I think it is by getting special wide load certification. Anyways, when we redesign the Craz, Mojo or Mondo, they will very likely also be 102". Currently the Craz and Mojo are 100". Hope that makes sense.

[russellsmojo]

Thanks Goose! Keep up the great work and keep the great boats coming out of the factory door.


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[bzubke1]

I hope the Max performs well because it sure isn't much to look at. The craz and mojo are very nice looking boats but the max from the side looks like if I tried to draw a boat.

[98outback]

In Florida anything over 8.5' wide technically requires a permit to be hauled. Although they never mess with recreational or personal users they could if they wanted to be jerks about it.

[icemanftr]

I hope the Max performs well because it sure isn't much to look at. The craz and mojo are very nice looking boats but the max from the side looks like if I tried to draw a boat.

[emoji23]


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[DFTR Josh]

I hope the Max performs well because it sure isn't much to look at. The craz and mojo are very nice looking boats but the max from the side looks like if I tried to draw a boat.
I thought this at first when the Helix came out but since then has grown on me. More and more time in and around the boat it's really a well put together vessel and space for days.
This is how I want to see a Helix or Max in person...
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[trayson]

It is simply a matter of continuous improvement. The Helix and Max were the last 2 boats we developed. We have slowly grown the average boat width of 98" that we used for a long time, to the new more common standard of 102". Most people don't know this, but not all international countries allow boats to be 102". Australia specifically has a requirement for transportation that trailers can be no wider than 2.5 meters. That is just a little over 98". Back in the day, most boats were in the 95" to 98" beam so they could be used anywhere in the world. However, most manufacturers started going wider because there is quite a bit of value in the wider beam. In Australia, they have found out ways to transport them and I think it is by getting special wide load certification. Anyways, when we redesign the Craz, Mojo or Mondo, they will very likely also be 102". Currently the Craz and Mojo are 100". Hope that makes sense.

Matt, thank you VERY much for the detailed responses. Having a resource like you posting on the forums is a HUGE benefit for current and potential Skier's Choice owners. It's pretty huge that Skiers Choice has such a presence on the forums. The technical details are amazing and greatly appreciated.

[Mobius22]

I thought this at first when the Helix came out but since then has grown on me. More and more time in and around the boat it's really a well put together vessel and space for days.
This is how I want to see a Helix or Max in person...
26101

I think once more of the Max are built, the color schemes will greatly improve as well. I've seen a few that look killer with black flake and blue accents, or ultra blue flake with dark accents. Essentially, I wouldn't judge the boat's looks based off the red photo boat...

[Dandy21]

In Florida anything over 8.5' wide technically requires a permit to be hauled. Although they never mess with recreational or personal users they could if they wanted to be jerks about it.

This is true for transportation throughout the country I believe. At one time some states were limited to 8' but I believe they have since changed to 8.5' and this is why most recreational boats that can be easily trailered are 102" (8.5'). Technically with the guide poles, most trailers for 102" boats are over width which is why they are "removable". Some states will enforce this, but most will not because as you mentioned it is clearly personal use and most people are unaware of this.

[MJHSupra]

I hope the Max performs well because it sure isn't much to look at. The craz and mojo are very nice looking boats but the max from the side looks like if I tried to draw a boat.

That pic is still making me laugh.

[goose]

I thought this at first when the Helix came out but since then has grown on me. More and more time in and around the boat it's really a well put together vessel and space for days.
This is how I want to see a Helix or Max in person...
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Josh, Funny you should post that. The R&D boat is that exact color combo. I really like it. I would take a pic but the R&D boats sometimes have things on them that the public is not supposed to see. Plus the boat is not exactly clean...hahaha

I also agree that some color combos in some patterns look better than others. The new "Sport" pattern is new for 2018 so a lot of the dealers are spraying in that pattern to show the new look. Also, I am anxious to see a solid Max like the solid Pacific Blue Helix we sprayed on photo boat. Or maybe a "sport" pattern with a black metal flake main and a black accent. Call me old school, but I still think the blacked out boats are sweet looking. I owned one and will probably never do that again, but man do they look sharp.

And like I said before, we actually purposefully design the boats to be different. I know the majority of people probably prefer the more classic lines of the Craz and Mojo, but I have been doing this for many years and not everyone has the same taste in design. For some of you the Helix and Max are not your style, but that is why we offer all the options. Plus, in the future as we add background graphics or different gel patterns, that can drastically change the look of the boat.

[icemanftr]

Josh, Funny you should post that. The R&D boat is that exact color combo. I really like it. I would take a pic but the R&D boats sometimes have things on them that the public is not supposed to see. Plus the boat is not exactly clean...hahaha

I also agree that some color combos in some patterns look better than others. The new "Sport" pattern is new for 2018 so a lot of the dealers are spraying in that pattern to show the new look. Also, I am anxious to see a solid Max like the solid Pacific Blue Helix we sprayed on photo boat. Or maybe a "sport" pattern with a black metal flake main and a black accent. Call me old school, but I still think the blacked out boats are sweet looking. I owned one and will probably never do that again, but man do they look sharp.

And like I said before, we actually purposefully design the boats to be different. I know the majority of people probably prefer the more classic lines of the Craz and Mojo, but I have been doing this for many years and not everyone has the same taste in design. For some of you the Helix and Max are not your style, but that is why we offer all the options. Plus, in the future as we add background graphics or different gel patterns, that can drastically change the look of the boat.

Very good points and like many said I'm sure it will be a hot seller. I'm awaiting my dealer (Toblers Marina) to get one in so I can demo it. I'm sure it may not look like a Ferrari, but I'm willing to bet it performs well and surf wave is gonna be phenomenal once you get it dialed in.


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[moombahighrider]

Matt, with the g6 system, does each pump have a dedicated thru-hull fitting or are you splitting the line from 1 thru-hull to each of the 2 pumps?

[goose]

Matt, thank you VERY much for the detailed responses. Having a resource like you posting on the forums is a HUGE benefit for current and potential Skier's Choice owners. It's pretty huge that Skiers Choice has such a presence on the forums. The technical details are amazing and greatly appreciated.

Trayson, Thanks for the comments but honestly I am just doing my job. One thing I love about working at Skiers Choice is we are still a relatively small company and most everyone is here because we love the boats, the industry and the lifestyle. Almost everyone in the office and many of the guys and girls on the line spend the majority of our weekends enjoying these boats with our families. We try and keep up with the forums because we understand that as a small company our best asset is our customers and we want to make sure to keep you guys happy and informed. I also learned long ago that passionate customers can be one of the best sources for new ideas. I have been here for over 17 years and while I would love to say we constantly come up with all the great ideas, many of the changes you see are because of issues that you have or suggestions that you guys make. So, we will keep trying to do our job and you keep telling us what you like and what you don't. Seems to be working so far, so if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[13mobiusLSV]

Matt-
Thanks for all of the insight and detailed info on this and the autowake thread. I hope I don't put you on the spot here, but are complete subfloor ballast something that has been discussed or looked at for one or both brands in the near future?

[goose]

Matt, with the g6 system, does each pump have a dedicated thru-hull fitting or are you splitting the line from 1 thru-hull to each of the 2 pumps?

Good question. With the 6 pump system, we are actually only using 3 thru hulls and splitting the line to each pump. In our testing, we found with the impellor pumps, they will pull the water they need and while it may not be 100% efficient, it was more efficient and more feasible than to install 6 thru hulls in the bottom of the boat. Not sure if you have looked, but we are running out of real estate in the bilge area. I have a feeling you might be asking this because you want to do this yourself for your 2017 Pro?? If that is the case, then yes, anything is possible, but we did also relocate both front pumps to be mounted on a panel in front of the front ballast tank. We had to slightly modify the front ballast tank to make room. Obviously we also had to change wiring and we actually power the 6 pumps through 3 different relay based boxes. Again, anything is possible and I have seen other people do similar modifications to their current boats so if that was the reason for your question, hopefully that answers some of the technical details.

[goose]

Matt-
Thanks for all of the insight and detailed info on this and the autowake thread. I hope I don't put you on the spot here, but are complete subfloor ballast something that has been discussed or looked at for one or both brands in the near future?

We have obviously been looking at the subfloor ballast for a while. We know that is a high value to our customers and the new Supra that will be released soon has a true subfloor ballast. You haven't seen this yet, but the new Max also has optional side storage bins that can be added to the sundeck compartments that basically make them subfloor ballast. Not quite the same, but honestly I think it is a design that most will really appreciate as you can still get to the bags if you need to. Hopefully we will have pics of that soon. As some have mentioned, until you see the Max, you will not appreciate how deep it is. The overall depth from deck to the hull bottom is about 44 inches on each side. Each rear bag holds 1000lbs. These side storage tubs are almost 16 inches deep and they can hold a LOT of lifejackets, ropes, bumpers, etc. I think once you see this, you will really like it.

In addition, the Max also has a 1000lb front bag that is completely under the front floor. There is no u-shaped bag in the front bow storage and that really opens up more clean storage up there as well. Hope you like it.

[BrettLee3232]

Trayson, Thanks for the comments but honestly I am just doing my job. One thing I love about working at Skiers Choice is we are still a relatively small company and most everyone is here because we love the boats, the industry and the lifestyle. Almost everyone in the office and many of the guys and girls on the line spend the majority of our weekends enjoying these boats with our families. We try and keep up with the forums because we understand that as a small company our best asset is our customers and we want to make sure to keep you guys happy and informed. I also learned long ago that passionate customers can be one of the best sources for new ideas. I have been here for over 17 years and while I would love to say we constantly come up with all the great ideas, many of the changes you see are because of issues that you have or suggestions that you guys make. So, we will keep trying to do our job and you keep telling us what you like and what you don't. Seems to be working so far, so if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Thanks for all the help,

One question, I saw the Max had the over engine tray. Is that an option for all models? If so will the 18 Mondo tray fit my 15 Mondo? I really need more storage 🤦🏼*♂️https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170810/4016010e520354b69b985c840d3b28ea.jpg


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[chester]

Guess I need to follow the correct Max thread haha. I've actually looked into somehow fitting a removable shelf that goes above the bags in my LSV so you can store stuff above the bags while running ballast, then take the shelf out for extra storage, extra coolers, etc. The problem you have with hard tanks is that the space can only ever be used for ballast, so having a system where you can have a rigid spot to place for jackets, ropes, etc above the bags and then removable to throw big items when cruising/trailering would be awesome!


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[rdlangston13]

I would love to build trays over the bags and engine in our Mojo. Just not sure how to do it in a cost effective manner


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[goose]

Thanks for all the help,

One question, I saw the Max had the over engine tray. Is that an option for all models? If so will the 18 Mondo tray fit my 15 Mondo? I really need more storage 🤦🏼*♂️https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170810/4016010e520354b69b985c840d3b28ea.jpg


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Well...currently, the only model with the over engine tray is the Max. The center sundeck tray is standard and the sides are optional. I will try and get a picture of those. Again, this boat is so deep that it makes these storage trays very useable. We are looking at possibly doing trays in the other models, but they don't have near the space, especially on the Mondo. We might could do something, but currently we don't have an over the engine tray for any model except the Max.

[Isaguel]

Hmmm, Moomba Max has deeper and wider rear lockers,:idea:, that means 1800lb custom rear sacks from wakemakers, and a monster wave :twisted:
A deep hull like that should be able to handle it. Can't wait to see what some guys are gonna try.

[northern mondo owner]

Looking at the wake in the video and bow rise already I would say another combined 1600 or 2k in the rear and another 750 or 1k in the bow with a torque prop. U aren't going to by a "max" to have a good wake for money in a mediocre looking boat. U want to buy it and sack it sick so the wake is stupid huge and long and those "it's gotta be a nautique or nothing" boys take mom and dad's boat to other side of lake so people don't keep staring at what 2/3 price of correct engineering can do. Fancy computer screens don't make your wave bigger. Trim tabs and ballest do.

[BrettLee3232]

Well...currently, the only model with the over engine tray is the Max. The center sundeck tray is standard and the sides are optional. I will try and get a picture of those. Again, this boat is so deep that it makes these storage trays very useable. We are looking at possibly doing trays in the other models, but they don't have near the space, especially on the Mondo. We might could do something, but currently we don't have an over the engine tray for any model except the Max.

Damn..... [emoji1304]


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[patrick232]

We have obviously been looking at the subfloor ballast for a while. We know that is a high value to our customers and the new Supra that will be released soon has a true subfloor ballast. You haven't seen this yet, but the new Max also has optional side storage bins that can be added to the sundeck compartments that basically make them subfloor ballast. Not quite the same, but honestly I think it is a design that most will really appreciate as you can still get to the bags if you need to. Hopefully we will have pics of that soon. As some have mentioned, until you see the Max, you will not appreciate how deep it is. The overall depth from deck to the hull bottom is about 44 inches on each side. Each rear bag holds 1000lbs. These side storage tubs are almost 16 inches deep and they can hold a LOT of lifejackets, ropes, bumpers, etc. I think once you see this, you will really like it.

In addition, the Max also has a 1000lb front bag that is completely under the front floor. There is no u-shaped bag in the front bow storage and that really opens up more clean storage up there as well. Hope you like it.

Matt I would have loved to help you guys on the design and manufacturering of the engine cover and side bins. It's what we have been doing for decades. Maybe I'll see you at PWT this weekend.

[goose]

Here is a pic of the side storage boxes and center box. I have been using this for a while on the R&D boat and it is SO nice having this for putting lifejackets, ropes, bumpers etc on. Especially when the water was a little cooler. The center "warming" tray really is a nice feature!

[smorris7]

This is really good stuff!!


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[KG's Supra24]

Do the storage boxes eliminate the ability to carry boards in the rear lockers? Is there storage space for the boxes when not in use? Or is it a leave in full time (essentially subfloor) type of option?

Any r&d pics of wake and wave and what type of weight yall are running?

Thanks for all the info goose! I know everyone here loves following the new developments.

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[goose]

On another thread, facebook, or something, I saw someone asked about putting custom 1500lb bags in the back for the Max. While you as consumers can do whatever you want with custom bags, I will give you some additional ideas to consider. The storage under the starboard and port lounge seats on the Max are also huge. In fact, they approximately 48" long, 20" wide at bottom and about 23" tall. A standard 20x20x50 fat sack may or may not fit really nice in this compartment. As a manufacturer, we would never suggest to add more weight than you legally hold, but if someone got a little creative with running a hose through a panel, you might could tie into the rear compartment and have a nice setup that adds additional weight to the middle of the boat instead of putting all the extra weight in the rear. Anyways, just food for thought. I have a feeling you custom people will have a field day with this potential and can't wait to see how you guys put that extra storage to good use. hehehe

[goose]

Do the storage boxes eliminate the ability to carry boards in the rear lockers? Is there storage space for the boxes when not in use? Or is it a leave in full time (essentially subfloor) type of option?

Any r&d pics of wake and wave and what type of weight yall are running?

Thanks for all the info goose! I know everyone here loves following the new developments.

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On the storage boxes, you are correct, if you use the storage box it would really affect the ease of putting additional boards in the back. But here is what I have been doing and it can give you some ideas....When we first got the boxes, I left the port side in all the time and took the starboard side box out and left at factory. With the port box and center box in, I had plenty of room to hold all the jackets and ropes I needed. I mainly left the starboard side out just so I could check to make sure bag was always filling properly, venting, etc. More development testing than anything. HOWEVER, I did find that traveling back and forth to lake, with the box out, I could put ALL my wakeboards and surf boards in there when the bag was empty. When I got to lake, I took boards out, put in racks and we were good to go. Here is another idea...to remove the storage bin, all you do is pop off the shock, lay the side sundeck back and the box pulls right out. You could just leave the boxes in, pull them out at end of day, put boards in compartment, then put bins back in. This actually would even HIDE your boards if anyone were to look in the compartment when you were grabbing dinner or at a gas station. The bins are not easily stored, but I think this idea is even better than the sub floor ballast because it gives you some extra options in storage...

[Mobius22]

Great stuff, Matt!!!

[rdlangston13]

Now here is the kicker. Will all these bins fit a 17 Mojo with the 900 lb rear bags????


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[goose]

Now here is the kicker. Will all these bins fit a 17 Mojo with the 900 lb rear bags????


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Unfortunately no. Not sure if you looked closely, but when you put 900lb rear bags in the Mojo, it doesn't leave much room for any bins.

[rdlangston13]

What about the engine bin? I would be happy with just that lol. Get the ropes cleaned up


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[goose]

What about the engine bin? I would be happy with just that lol. Get the ropes cleaned up


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We are looking into the center trays. I will keep you posted....

[rdlangston13]

We are looking into the center trays. I will keep you posted....

Awesome! Let us know as soon as they are available! In fact I'll prepay for one right now lol


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[Moomba Press]

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From Matt Brown

[deerfield]

With surf-engineered boats getting heavier and carrying more ballast, is there a point at or beyond which a diesel powered engine for more torque and better efficiency makes more sense than regular gas powered?

[BrettLee3232]

Here is a pic of the side storage boxes and center box. I have been using this for a while on the R&D boat and it is SO nice having this for putting lifejackets, ropes, bumpers etc on. Especially when the water was a little cooler. The center "warming" tray really is a nice feature!

That's awesome!

That could be one big ass ice chest haha

Can you get the A3 Bimini with this hog? Or you stuck with no Bimini storage?


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[goose]

That's awesome!

That could be one big ass ice chest haha

Can you get the A3 Bimini with this hog? Or you stuck with no Bimini storage?


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Currently the Max is only available with A2 tower and A2 tower bimini w/o surf storage... We have had that request several times but not an option at this time...

[BrettLee3232]

Currently the Max is only available with A2 tower and A2 tower bimini w/o surf storage... We have had that request several times but not an option at this time...

Well that sucks a big one. Can you order the boat with no Bimini? Then have the dealer order a new A3 Bimini?

I understand trying to keep costs down but a $1000 Bimini option or a $1440 Bimini option doesn't seem to drive the price up very much.

But hey I'm just a consumer 🤷🏼*♂️ lol


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[trayson]

Well that sucks a big one. Can you order the boat with no Bimini? Then have the dealer order a new A3 Bimini?

I understand trying to keep costs down but a $1000 Bimini option or a $1440 Bimini option doesn't seem to drive the price up very much.

But hey I'm just a consumer ����*♂️ lol


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How hard is it to take a bimini and get it modified with surf pockets? I can't imagine it'd be that big of deal. or is there some reason the A2 wouldn't work with pockets sewn into it???

[goose]

Well that sucks a big one. Can you order the boat with no Bimini? Then have the dealer order a new A3 Bimini?

I understand trying to keep costs down but a $1000 Bimini option or a $1440 Bimini option doesn't seem to drive the price up very much.

But hey I'm just a consumer 🤷🏼*♂️ lol


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I completely understand but unfortunately the A3 bimini will not fit on an A2 tower. At least I don't think it will. Honestly I never tried it, but I do know the A3 tower is actually more narrow than the A2 tower. As I said before, the Max and Helix are actually a true 102" beam and the Craz, Mondo, Mojo are 100". The A2 tower actually has a wider center section and if you notice the A2 is matte black and the A3 is gloss black. That also helps us keep the right width center section on the correct width tower. Obviously with the wider tower, it requires a wider bimini. Could you stretch the narrow A3 bimini and it work on the A2? That is a good question. I will see what I can find out. I do know the bimini has to stay square or it will not fold up and back very well. I am concerned it might work at first, but then bind up with time....

As to why we didn't offer the A2 with bimini storage it is simply a matter of where do you draw the line. We tried to keep the cost down on the Helix and Max and tried to keep bimini cost down as well. I agree that a few hundred dollars doesn't drastically change that, but if you had 20 items like that at 400 dollars, then you are talking about $8,000. Honestly that is always the hard part with Moomba. We define "Value" as Worth divided by Cost. So, we try and pick the items that add the most "Worth" but still under a certain "Cost". Truth is as we find out that there is more "Worth" for a little more "Cost", then a lot of times we go back and change because it is still a better overall Value. As you have seen over the last 20 years, everyone has done that and claim that it increases "Value". But if you are not careful, then you end up with boats that cost $150K to $200K. They claim it is still a "Value" because the "Worth" is still there, but we still try and keep the big picture in mind and are trying to make sure we don't get carried away. Granted $60K or $80K is still a LOT of money, but we are trying our best to keep adding more "Worth" than the other guys at a lower "Cost". Hopefully that is why all you guys and girls are still buying our boats. And we thank you for that!!

[That Guy]

@goose/Matt...thanks for all the details and info!

The bins in the rear are great, I liked having them in my previous boat and miss them in my Craz. Are the bin bottoms angled with holes to drain? And does the water just drain out the bottom or is it directed somewhere with a hose?

[sandm]

got quoted $200 to add 2 surf pockets for the bimini on my old boat. as an fyi. that included pockets and straps with plastic closures like the tie downs on a cover to hold them in.

[BrettLee3232]

I completely understand but unfortunately the A3 bimini will not fit on an A2 tower. At least I don't think it will. Honestly I never tried it, but I do know the A3 tower is actually more narrow than the A2 tower. As I said before, the Max and Helix are actually a true 102" beam and the Craz, Mondo, Mojo are 100". The A2 tower actually has a wider center section and if you notice the A2 is matte black and the A3 is gloss black. That also helps us keep the right width center section on the correct width tower. Obviously with the wider tower, it requires a wider bimini. Could you stretch the narrow A3 bimini and it work on the A2? That is a good question. I will see what I can find out. I do know the bimini has to stay square or it will not fold up and back very well. I am concerned it might work at first, but then bind up with time....

As to why we didn't offer the A2 with bimini storage it is simply a matter of where do you draw the line. We tried to keep the cost down on the Helix and Max and tried to keep bimini cost down as well. I agree that a few hundred dollars doesn't drastically change that, but if you had 20 items like that at 400 dollars, then you are talking about $8,000. Honestly that is always the hard part with Moomba. We define "Value" as Worth divided by Cost. So, we try and pick the items that add the most "Worth" but still under a certain "Cost". Truth is as we find out that there is more "Worth" for a little more "Cost", then a lot of times we go back and change because it is still a better overall Value. As you have seen over the last 20 years, everyone has done that and claim that it increases "Value". But if you are not careful, then you end up with boats that cost $150K to $200K. They claim it is still a "Value" because the "Worth" is still there, but we still try and keep the big picture in mind and are trying to make sure we don't get carried away. Granted $60K or $80K is still a LOT of money, but we are trying our best to keep adding more "Worth" than the other guys at a lower "Cost". Hopefully that is why all you guys and girls are still buying our boats. And we thank you for that!!

I understand, I didn't realize there was a difference in the towers.

It's sucks having all these cool features that are exclusive to each boat LOL!!!! I've been saying for years it would be awesome to have over engine trays. Even if it was a couple inches deep, you could still throw ropes and stuff in there.

So if I want that factory engine tray I have to get the Max. But if I want factory surf pockets & Titon board racks, I need to get the mojo, but I loose massive amounts of storage from the max, 102" beam etc.

But then say I want the best surf wave possible so I "have to have" the new 3.0 Auto Flow. So I have to get the Mojo Pro. But there's limited color options on the Pro, say the wife only allows me to upgrade if she can get some sparkly metal flake! Then I can't get the Pro, if I can't get the Pro then I loose out on the bitchen new surf system & gator step flooring!

I guess we need a new version of each model. You could call it... Customer Edition aka the C.E.

Then we could do whatever options you wanted across all models.
Want a engine storage tray? $400
Want triton board racks? $1500
Want surf pockets? $1400
Don't want surf pockets? $1000
Want gator step? $1500
Want carpet? FREE
Want metal flake? $600
Want flow 3.0? $2000
Want flow 2.0 instead? $1000

Boom Boom!!!!! Haha [emoji23]


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[Isaguel]

got quoted $200 to add 2 surf pockets for the bimini on my old boat. as an fyi. that included pockets and straps with plastic closures like the tie downs on a cover to hold them in.

I don't see the big deal about bimini pockets. I priced a pair of extra board racks, Roswell classics, from an online retailer, and with a 30% discount they come to <190$ a piece, The extra wide tines for surfboards are about 30$ more. That is money better spent than bimini pockets which may tear over time.
I have the S-bend tower which has the top receptacle for extra racks. I am not sure if the A2 tower on the Max has those.

[stevemarich]

I love the the board storage on the Bimini , it is so fast to swap boards we don't even use the board racks anymore, other than to hold the wakeboard, if the Bimini goes up surf boards move up too , absolutely love it

[BrettLee3232]

got quoted $200 to add 2 surf pockets for the bimini on my old boat. as an fyi. that included pockets and straps with plastic closures like the tie downs on a cover to hold them in.

I'd pay $200! I got quoted $500, $700 & one shop wouldn't even do it lol

No one seemed to know what they were. Even showing them a picture they seem flabbergasted on why I even wanted them hHa


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[sandm]

I don't see the big deal about bimini pockets. That is money better spent than bimini pockets which may tear over time.

you would think harder about that money if you had a tower that (1) only had the ability for 1 set of boardracks on each side and (2) they run a grand a pair for roswells and up to 3grand for clamping versions of factory racks.
I believe that's where the bimini surfpocket market was born..

[jimmylsv]

Saw the Max at Orlando Boat Show. That boat is thick! Sitting on double axle trailer it is very tall. The ballast area next to engine have to be 4 foot deep. From the seats to top rail is crazy tall. I'm sure people will be reinforcing the engine compartment getting custom bags made and will have a sick wake.

[rdlangston13]

I understand, I didn't realize there was a difference in the towers.

It's sucks having all these cool features that are exclusive to each boat LOL!!!! I've been saying for years it would be awesome to have over engine trays. Even if it was a couple inches deep, you could still throw ropes and stuff in there.

So if I want that factory engine tray I have to get the Max. But if I want factory surf pockets & Titon board racks, I need to get the mojo, but I loose massive amounts of storage from the max, 102" beam etc.

But then say I want the best surf wave possible so I "have to have" the new 3.0 Auto Flow. So I have to get the Mojo Pro. But there's limited color options on the Pro, say the wife only allows me to upgrade if she can get some sparkly metal flake! Then I can't get the Pro, if I can't get the Pro then I loose out on the bitchen new surf system & gator step flooring!

I guess we need a new version of each model. You could call it... Customer Edition aka the C.E.

Then we could do whatever options you wanted across all models.
Want a engine storage tray? $400
Want triton board racks? $1500
Want surf pockets? $1400
Don't want surf pockets? $1000
Want gator step? $1500
Want carpet? FREE
Want metal flake? $600
Want flow 3.0? $2000
Want flow 2.0 instead? $1000

Boom Boom!!!!! Haha [emoji23]


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I believe gator step is now an option on the mondo, Craz, and mojo. The helix and max still use snap in non skid but it's the same material as gator step now.


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[snowking]

If I ordered the non skid floor for 690 does that mean gator steps

[trayson]

I don't see the big deal about bimini pockets. I priced a pair of extra board racks, Roswell classics, from an online retailer, and with a 30% discount they come to <190$ a piece, The extra wide tines for surfboards are about 30$ more. That is money better spent than bimini pockets which may tear over time.
I have the S-bend tower which has the top receptacle for extra racks. I am not sure if the A2 tower on the Max has those.

The only racks I would ever put my EPS foam core board into are the mega expensive Titan or PTM clamping racks. I only ever put my fragile boards on my cargo bimini or on my overhead board racks. I'd rather have a bimini pocket that might tear over time over a rack that would probably damage my board if we were motoring over choppy water.

[rdlangston13]

If I ordered the non skid floor for 690 does that mean gator steps

Is that for a max/helix or monda/Craz/Mojo?


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[snowking]

Is that for a max/helix or monda/Craz/Mojo?


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2018 Mojo with surf max

[Mobius22]

18 Mojo will have glue-in Gatorstep

[trayson]

Goose, when are we going to be able to build a Max using the "build your Moomba" link?

(I basically wanna play with colors because I'm bored)

[MMPRES]

Goose, when are we going to be able to build a Max using the "build your Moomba" link?

(I basically wanna play with colors because I'm bored)

Got a message from Drew Tinker (Rick's son) that said that option wouldn't be available until sometime in September.

[trayson]

Got a message from Drew Tinker (Rick's son) that said that option wouldn't be available until sometime in September.

Good to know. I know that I can just play with the colors on a Helix and get the look and feel for what the max would end up like...

Hoping to get on the water with one sometime in September. (not that I'm gonna pull the trigger, but it's always fun to dream for the next boat after my XLV is paid off)

[Prospersigman]

http://slalomshop.com/boats-for-sale/2018-moomba-max-lewisville-texas-6337953/

Local dealership has one for sale, here is a link to all the photos.

[rdlangston13]

Anyone have any experience getting things 3D printed? I think we are going to try and 3D print some engine trays and trays for the rear lockers


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[stevemarich]

Anyone have any experience getting things 3D printed? I think we are going to try and 3D print some engine trays and trays for the rear lockers


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Could draw it up on cad for ya, only quoted for 3d printing , the part I needed was cheaper for me to machine, probably going to fab an aluminum on for my Craz this winter

[Stazi]

I don't think a 3D printing will be strong enough, especially considering the plastic they use in those machines has a low
Melt point which won't be good for anything over the engine.


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[rdlangston13]

Could draw it up on cad for ya, only quoted for 3d printing , the part I needed was cheaper for me to machine, probably going to fab an aluminum on for my Craz this winter

I was gonna do aluminum too until the fab guy said it was gonna be like $400 just for the sheet!


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[Stazi]

I was gonna do aluminum too until the fab guy said it was gonna be like $400 just for the sheet!


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That's crazy. Find another supplier. Aluminum sheet is not that expensive. You could buy a break from Harbor Freight and the material and build several for that price.


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[stevemarich]

No kidding , could build it it out of high polish ss for less than that

[trayson]

Mine made from 1/4" HDPE was reasonable to build and does the job. Some SS screws and some aluminum angle.

I don't have near the depth to work with, but it's still nice to have.

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u492/traysonh/Moomba%20XLV/20160913_201157_zpsu93ouxsi.jpg

[BrettLee3232]

This boat is really growing on me [emoji848]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/a6b3b5ab13e0a72333839387fe190609.png

Anyone want to buy my Mondo? Lol

When will the damn boat builder be up????


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[BrettLee3232]

Currently the Max is only available with A2 tower and A2 tower bimini w/o surf storage... We have had that request several times but not an option at this time...

Goose,

The Max is growing on me. I have a couple questions.

1) When will the boat builder be available?
2) I see that you can get a black hull with the max. Can you get a black deck as well? Or are you stuck with white or platinum?


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[goose]

Goose,

The Max is growing on me. I have a couple questions.

1) When will the boat builder be available?
2) I see that you can get a black hull with the max. Can you get a black deck as well? Or are you stuck with white or platinum?


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Brett, the Moomba boat builder is supposed to be up mid September. Sorry about delay on that one. On the hull and deck, for 2018, the Helix and Max hull color matches the accent. So in the boat you had picture of, the hull is black because accent is black. On the deck, the accent also wraps up onto the deck. So most of the deck gunnel is black on that boat. The "Deck" color is really the color inside the boat and we kept it only white or platinum for 2018. We have had some requests for colored insides, but we actually do that for cost and efficiencies. It is a LOT easier for us to gel and keep them at a higher quality at factory by keeping them white or platinum. The colored decks do look nice, but they get scratched easily in the plant creating a lot of rework. You can still get the Mondo, Craz, Mojo with the colored insides, but that is another one of the items that make the models different. Hope that explains it and why.

[bzubke1]

This boat is really growing on me [emoji848]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/a6b3b5ab13e0a72333839387fe190609.png

Anyone want to buy my Mondo? Lol

When will the damn boat builder be up????


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I agree! The more pictures I see the more I'm starting to like the looks of it.

[trayson]

I agree! The more pictures I see the more I'm starting to like the looks of it.

I think in the water it looks fine. it's on the trailer that it looks like a brick. but that wouldn't bother me.

I've been playing with colors using the Helix (because this will just look like a big Helix) and I'd say that Brittany Blue metalflake main color with black as the accent color would be the jam!

[MMPRES]

I had discussed the boat builder issue with Drew Tinker on FB and he said that it would be available for the Max at some point in September.
Is it too new for anyone to have taken one for a spin yet? If not, I have to know how it performed! Might be tempted to flip my Craz if the money is right.

[Surf Wagon]

The sales rep we worked with told us there wasn't any big changes so we bought the Craz just a month ago. Probably gonna wish we had waited for the 2018s

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[sivs1]

I think in the water it looks fine. it's on the trailer that it looks like a brick. but that wouldn't bother me.

I've been playing with colors using the Helix (because this will just look like a big Helix) and I'd say that Brittany Blue metalflake main color with black as the accent color would be the jam!

It's not a brick, it's a BARGE. After seeing the Max that is the only thing I did not like about it, especially looking at it's rear end! :o

[russellsmojo]

Slap a banging system in it. Fill it up with ballast and friends. It would be hard to argue against the max. Still have some change in the bank for winter hobbies.


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[BrettLee3232]

Slap a banging system in it. Fill it up with ballast and friends. It would be hard to argue against the max. Still have some change in the bank for winter hobbies.


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I totally agree. I've been going back & fourth about getting a new boat. Do I really want the extra monthly payment of a 80k-90k + boat or will a 65k Max do it for me? [emoji23]

I still wish everything was "a la carte". Build a boat the way you want it. The only reason you should be choosing one model over the other is...1) Price 2) Style 3) Size.

Not because only certain models have certain features.

I want the Max but I want all the other crap to.

Why can't I pay extra money to get Flow 3.0, Bimini pockets, triton board racks, gator step & a colored deck?

All I hear is "sorry that's not available on the max but it is available on the Mondo, craz & mojo".

Ughhhhh first world problems 🤦🏼*♂️



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[Stazi]

Brett, you got a remember that this is the first year out for this boat, so they want to get it out the door as quick as possible. I am pretty sure that in another year all of those options you want will be available. I agree they should be able to do this upfront but they're probably just trying to keep it simplified to start with.


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[BrettLee3232]

Brett, you got a remember that this is the first year out for this boat, so they want to get it out the door as quick as possible. I am pretty sure that in another year all of those options you want will be available. I agree they should be able to do this upfront but they're probably just trying to keep it simplified to start with.


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[Stazi]

[emoji23]


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[BrettLee3232]

Brett, the Moomba boat builder is supposed to be up mid September. Sorry about delay on that one. On the hull and deck, for 2018, the Helix and Max hull color matches the accent. So in the boat you had picture of, the hull is black because accent is black. On the deck, the accent also wraps up onto the deck. So most of the deck gunnel is black on that boat. The "Deck" color is really the color inside the boat and we kept it only white or platinum for 2018. We have had some requests for colored insides, but we actually do that for cost and efficiencies. It is a LOT easier for us to gel and keep them at a higher quality at factory by keeping them white or platinum. The colored decks do look nice, but they get scratched easily in the plant creating a lot of rework. You can still get the Mondo, Craz, Mojo with the colored insides, but that is another one of the items that make the models different. Hope that explains it and why.

Ok Goose, more questions!!!!

Is there anything stopping/preventing me from putting a speaker here?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170824/d187b0c2a8461d21d51b5eaa919fc295.jpg

Or here?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170824/97d7e033efa0c0dc2eb11a480830a43b.jpg

Or here & here? Lol
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170824/5c53cb0e1c30148decd7e5ac03c4d223.jpg

Also can we see what's behind this fiberglass wall? Any room for multiple subs? [emoji136]🏼*♂️
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170824/07e269b74f0ada481f84f44949962f84.jpg

I'm day dreaming of my next stereo install [emoji51][emoji1320]


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[padge]

Ok Goose, more questions!!!!

Is there anything stopping/preventing me from putting a speaker here?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170824/d187b0c2a8461d21d51b5eaa919fc295.jpg

Or here?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170824/97d7e033efa0c0dc2eb11a480830a43b.jpg

Or here & here? Lol
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170824/5c53cb0e1c30148decd7e5ac03c4d223.jpg

Also can we see what's behind this fiberglass wall? Any room for multiple subs? [emoji136]🏼*♂️
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170824/07e269b74f0ada481f84f44949962f84.jpg

I'm day dreaming of my next stereo install [emoji51][emoji1320]


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I know the one at the dealer close by has a sub there.


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[padge]

Does anyone know how the surf wave is on the max?


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[goose]

All of the locations that are shown could have speakers installed. As Padge said, we do offer a 10" sub by the footrest, but I am pretty sure you could mount a 12" there and the back side is easily accessible on the Max if you wanted to actually mount a box behind it for better performance.

If you get one and do a custom stereo install, I would love to see it. Lots of potential with this boat....

[BrettLee3232]

All of the locations that are shown could have speakers installed. As Padge said, we do offer a 10" sub by the footrest, but I am pretty sure you could mount a 12" there and the back side is easily accessible on the Max if you wanted to actually mount a box behind it for better performance.

If you get one and do a custom stereo install, I would love to see it. Lots of potential with this boat....

Well now I have to buy it just to show you the stereo install. SOLD....

Ok last question....

How do I convince my wife we NEED a new boat? She likes the mojo but doesn't want to spend mojo money. If this thing can be had around 65k I might be able to talk her into it come boat show season [emoji137]🏼*♂️


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[sivs1]

Well now I have to buy it just to show you the stereo install. SOLD....

Ok last question....

How do I convince my wife we NEED a new boat? She likes the mojo but doesn't want to spend mojo money. If this thing can be had around 65k I might be able to talk her into it come boat show season [emoji137]��*♂️


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your boat is broken, of course the only solution is a new one!

[trayson]

Well now I have to buy it just to show you the stereo install. SOLD....

Ok last question....

How do I convince my wife we NEED a new boat? She likes the mojo but doesn't want to spend mojo money. If this thing can be had around 65k I might be able to talk her into it come boat show season [emoji137]��*♂️


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Easy. Have her go with you for an on the water demo. The extra room and freeboard will literally sell itself. And I bet you'll be able to get into one for not a ton more money. Being able to motor around with autowake keeping the boat level would be badass. And play the "salesman game" where you present the marginal cost to her in "monthly payment" rather than in thousands of dollars. $20 a month is easier to justify than $4000 or whatever.

I think the extra room will be the seller. I mean, who ever said "I wish I had less room in my boat"?

[Stazi]

Doesn't this tactic work on your wife Trayson? [emoji848][emoji23]


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[trayson]

Doesn't this tactic work on your wife Trayson? [emoji848][emoji23]


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My wife would tell me "it's your money, do what you want with it!" LOLOL.

That said, the wife owns and pays for the tow rig (Payment, Registration, Insurance, Gas, Repairs) and I own and pay for the boat. Works pretty good for us!

I owe less than $15k on my XLV and have a tiny payment that means I can afford to take it out all the time and feed it gas. I'd have to take a hard look at the numbers of what it'd take to MAX me out. :-)

[trayson]

Here's a cool feature that I hadn't seen in other pictures yet...

http://images0.boattrader.com/resize/1/3/74/6330374_0_311219691600_16.jpg?t=1252862

And closer to the color combo I'd want. (BUT NEED METALFLAKE!!!)
http://images0.boattrader.com/resize/1/3/74/6330374_0_311219691600_1.jpg?t=1252862

http://images0.boattrader.com/resize/1/3/74/6330374_0_311219691600_6.jpg?t=1252862

[trayson]

This interior color choice is on point!
https://www.onlyinboards.com/App_Themes/OIB/BoatPhoto/545307.jpeg

I could live with these colors too...
https://www.onlyinboards.com/App_Themes/OIB/BoatPhoto/545306.jpeg

[sivs1]

This interior color choice is on point!
https://www.onlyinboards.com/App_Themes/OIB/BoatPhoto/545307.jpeg

I could live with these colors too...
https://www.onlyinboards.com/App_Themes/OIB/BoatPhoto/545306.jpeg

I think a new MAX is in your Future!

[trayson]

I think a new MAX is in your Future!

LOL. maybe in my DISTANT future!!! gimme a few years at least.

[BrettLee3232]

LOL. maybe in my DISTANT future!!! gimme a few years at least.

In a few years they'll have s 25' max called the Eclipse!!!! Haha


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[DFTR Josh]

Here's a cool feature that I hadn't seen in other pictures yet...
I've come to really enjoy the glove box access on the side and also just under the lid there's a little shelf that holds the plug and the wrench. The Max will be a HOT seller for 2018.

[padge]

Again, how about this surf wave? It's almost too stripped down for me. But a killer stereo and a good wave might be worth it


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[goose]

Again, how about this surf wave? It's almost too stripped down for me. But a killer stereo and a good wave might be worth it


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Padge, I purposefully haven't responded on the surf wave because you know I am going to say it is great. But even without my sales pitch hat on, I promise you that when weighted properly, it is awesome. Like I said before, the center lounge storage is super deep and in testing, I have filled that compartment up with sacks on both sides. With a little work and creative thinking, I am sure you could figure out how to plumb that into the rear bags...

Also because the front sack's center of gravity is slightly further back, it really adds a lot of displacement without drastically changing pitch. That allows you to run the front ballast at 100% full all the time.

Add a few passengers and you could easily be hitting the 5000lb total ballast range and with a boat that heavy displacing that much weight, it is hard to screw it up....

Hopefully more people will be doing test drives or buying them soon and you will get their first hand experiences....

[padge]

Padge, I purposefully haven't responded on the surf wave because you know I am going to say it is great. But even without my sales pitch hat on, I promise you that when weighted properly, it is awesome. Like I said before, the center lounge storage is super deep and in testing, I have filled that compartment up with sacks on both sides. With a little work and creative thinking, I am sure you could figure out how to plumb that into the rear bags...

Also because the front sack's center of gravity is slightly further back, it really adds a lot of displacement without drastically changing pitch. That allows you to run the front ballast at 100% full all the time.

Add a few passengers and you could easily be hitting the 5000lb total ballast range and with a boat that heavy displacing that much weight, it is hard to screw it up....

Hopefully more people will be doing test drives or buying them soon and you will get their first hand experiences....

I'm asking because I have a 2012 247 lsv right now with 6000# of ballast. Nothing I've ridden comes close. Not even the 18 sa, and I mean not even close. Not dogging the sa. Awesome boat. But wave was short and very soft in my opinion


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[BrettLee3232]

Padge, I purposefully haven't responded on the surf wave because you know I am going to say it is great. But even without my sales pitch hat on, I promise you that when weighted properly, it is awesome. Like I said before, the center lounge storage is super deep and in testing, I have filled that compartment up with sacks on both sides. With a little work and creative thinking, I am sure you could figure out how to plumb that into the rear bags...

Also because the front sack's center of gravity is slightly further back, it really adds a lot of displacement without drastically changing pitch. That allows you to run the front ballast at 100% full all the time.

Add a few passengers and you could easily be hitting the 5000lb total ballast range and with a boat that heavy displacing that much weight, it is hard to screw it up....

Hopefully more people will be doing test drives or buying them soon and you will get their first hand experiences....

Is there no bow bag? Just a hard tank?

Looks like plenty of room for a bow big if not.


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[That Guy]

Is there no bow bag? Just a hard tank?

Looks like plenty of room for a bow big if not.

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The bow does have a bag it's just subfloor so all the room under the seats is for storage...or another bag I guess.

[BrettLee3232]

The bow does have a bag it's just subfloor so all the room under the seats is for storage...or another bag I guess.

Sweet thanks, you know how big that bag is? Just dreaming of my next ballast install lol


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[Mobius22]

Sounds like you needed to add more weight to the SA in your demo.

[dusty2221]

Agreed, never once have I heard the SA described that way.

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[padge]

Agreed, never once have I heard the SA described that way.

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It may not be soft to some, but to what I'm used to it was


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[Jeepers]

I'm always a day late and dollar short! I just ordered the 2.0 retrofit for 08 LSV! Guess I'll have to start saving for 2019 Craz!

[Jeepers]

That's an excellent mod! Is that thing hinged?

[goose]

Sweet thanks, you know how big that bag is? Just dreaming of my next ballast install lol


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Brett, the Max bow bag is actually a 1000lb bag completely under the floor. Again, with some work, you could probably plumb into it to add an integrated bow under the bow cushions, but again you would probably only want to run more front weight, if you added a LOT more rear weight. Instead of that, I have found that by adding weight in the middle, it is the best of both worlds, without drastically affecting your storage. You could probably get up to about 700lbs on each side under the lounge cushions. YES, it really is that big and deep. That would be an additional 1400lbs. That would be similar to adding a 500lb integrated back and an additional 450lbs on each side in the rear. However, with the 1400lbs in the middle and with the rear storage bins and non carpeted storage under the bow cushions, you have way more accessible storage.

[goose]

Trayson, I was just walking through the plant today and saw a few black and blue boats. I was just curious if maybe one of these were your future boat. hahaha 261472614826149

Personally, I really like the new Ultra Blue metal flake. I think it looks great. On that one, I would probably have gone with larger Moomba logo. The Black metal flake also looks really cool. And the Brittany metal flake and black is actually a Helix. When I saw that one, I thought for sure you had ordered your new Max. hahaha

Anyways, thought you might enjoy these color combos...

[BrettLee3232]

Trayson, I was just walking through the plant today and saw a few black and blue boats. I was just curious if maybe one of these were your future boat. hahaha 261472614826149

Personally, I really like the new Ultra Blue metal flake. I think it looks great. On that one, I would probably have gone with larger Moomba logo. The Black metal flake also looks really cool. And the Brittany metal flake and black is actually a Helix. When I saw that one, I thought for sure you had ordered your new Max. hahaha

Anyways, thought you might enjoy these color combos...

That ultra blue is my jam! Any pics of the storage under/behind seats?


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[trayson]

Trayson, I was just walking through the plant today and saw a few black and blue boats. I was just curious if maybe one of these were your future boat. hahaha 261472614826149

Personally, I really like the new Ultra Blue metal flake. I think it looks great. On that one, I would probably have gone with larger Moomba logo. The Black metal flake also looks really cool. And the Brittany metal flake and black is actually a Helix. When I saw that one, I thought for sure you had ordered your new Max. hahaha

Anyways, thought you might enjoy these color combos...

LOL. very nice. You've definitely got my number.

And yeah, I do like this color combo with the flake. I would totally rock that.
https://forum.moomba.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26147&d=1503667422

[trayson]

That ultra blue is my jam! Any pics of the storage under/behind seats?


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I think Brett is gonna pull the trigger on a Max before I do!

[rdlangston13]

Trayson, I was just walking through the plant today and saw a few black and blue boats. I was just curious if maybe one of these were your future boat. hahaha 261472614826149

Personally, I really like the new Ultra Blue metal flake. I think it looks great. On that one, I would probably have gone with larger Moomba logo. The Black metal flake also looks really cool. And the Brittany metal flake and black is actually a Helix. When I saw that one, I thought for sure you had ordered your new Max. hahaha

Anyways, thought you might enjoy these color combos...

Ultra Blue Metal Flake FTW! Love ours, it looks so good!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/36a5d23bbf7b8c68c2fc01ebc10a18a7.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/5fdda929753faf496d6e3c5a9de11238.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170825/49342e5b0a41d75caad1dc9c9c66f507.jpg




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[trayson]

^^^^Picwhore! LOL

[goose]

That ultra blue is my jam! Any pics of the storage under/behind seats?


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Remember I am not in marketing, so the quality of my pictures are not overly impressive. haha.

But as you can see, this is the port lounge cushion storage area. At the deepest point, it is a little over 25" to seat bottom. Then length between stringer walls is about 46". I was going to send you a pic of the R&D boat with a standard fly high fat sack in there, but then I realized how dirty that boat was and didn't want to post it on here for my boss to see. hahaha

I also took a shot to show how the bow backs are hinged and the area behind the drivers footwell. As you can see on this model we put a free air sub in there currently, but there is plenty of room and accessibility to install a nice sub box and be able to work on it. You can also see in the picture how the storage is non-carpet with nonskid. It really adds a lot of storage up there that in the past was full of an IBS system.

I knew you guys would like that Ultra blue boat. I think it is currently my favorite color...

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[BrettLee3232]

Remember I am not in marketing, so the quality of my pictures are not overly impressive. haha.

But as you can see, this is the port lounge cushion storage area. At the deepest point, it is a little over 25" to seat bottom. Then length between stringer walls is about 46". I was going to send you a pic of the R&D boat with a standard fly high fat sack in there, but then I realized how dirty that boat was and didn't want to post it on here for my boss to see. hahaha

I also took a shot to show how the bow backs are hinged and the area behind the drivers footwell. As you can see on this model we put a free air sub in there currently, but there is plenty of room and accessibility to install a nice sub box and be able to work on it. You can also see in the picture how the storage is non-carpet with nonskid. It really adds a lot of storage up there that in the past was full of an IBS system.

I knew you guys would like that Ultra blue boat. I think it is currently my favorite color...

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Wow, it is deep lol. Thanks for the pics. You sure a helping me make my decision easier lol.

Although I have one gripe maybe you can bring up to someone (whoever makes these decisions).

Why do you guys use that sub as a Free Air Sub? People come on here all the time and say how horrible it is & they think it's a shitty sub. I know for. A fact it is not shitty cause I have 4. They ARE NOT Free Air Subs. They need a box to sound good. A small 10" box I guess would increase build costs but not by much for a better sound & installed how it should be installed. Just my 2 cents.

Thanks again for the pics [emoji1303]

PS post the R&D pics...I won't tell [emoji12]


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[goose]

Wow, it is deep lol. Thanks for the pics. You sure a helping me make my decision easier lol.

Although I have one gripe maybe you can bring up to someone (whoever makes these decisions).

Why do you guys use that sub as a Free Air Sub? People come on here all the time and say how horrible it is & they think it's a shitty sub. I know for. A fact it is not shitty cause I have 4. They ARE NOT Free Air Subs. They need a box to sound good. A small 10" box I guess would increase build costs but not by much for a better sound & installed how it should be installed. Just my 2 cents.

Thanks again for the pics [emoji1303]

PS post the R&D pics...I won't tell [emoji12]


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Brett, I will reply Monday. Don't have time today and spending the weekend with my family. I try and disconnect from work a little on weekends so just didn't want you to think I was leaving you hanging. Hope everyone has a great weekend!

[BrettLee3232]

Brett, I will reply Monday. Don't have time today and spending the weekend with my family. I try and disconnect from work a little on weekends so just didn't want you to think I was leaving you hanging. Hope everyone has a great weekend!

No problem man. Enjoy the weekend [emoji1591]


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[bsharer]

Just curious, How long does it take at the factory for them to build one of these boats start to finish?

[rdlangston13]

Just curious, How long does it take at the factory for them to build one of these boats start to finish?

around 9 days

[goose]

Wow, it is deep lol. Thanks for the pics. You sure a helping me make my decision easier lol.

Although I have one gripe maybe you can bring up to someone (whoever makes these decisions).

Why do you guys use that sub as a Free Air Sub? People come on here all the time and say how horrible it is & they think it's a shitty sub. I know for. A fact it is not shitty cause I have 4. They ARE NOT Free Air Subs. They need a box to sound good. A small 10" box I guess would increase build costs but not by much for a better sound & installed how it should be installed. Just my 2 cents.

Thanks again for the pics [emoji1303]

PS post the R&D pics...I won't tell [emoji12]


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Hey Brett, Sorry about delay. It is amazing how fast Mondays fly by sometimes. hahaha

In regards to your question about the Sub, I totally agree that it would sound much better if it was mounted in a true enclosure. We do that on the Mojo Pro Sub and on all the Supra Subs. The way we do it on the Pro and Supra is with a fiberglass enclosure we build in house. This is a terrible excuse, but currently we have a hard time building all the current small parts and it is a resource issue. But we are constantly making changes to that and hopefully sooner than later we will be improving that area of the plant and adding an enclosure to all subs. Maybe that will be one of the 2019 improvements. The good news is we have tried to think ahead and until we offer it from the factory, there is plenty of room to build a custom box in there if you want to do that yourself.

In addition to that, the truth is we will probably never be a "custom" stereo level installation. We are a manufacturing facility and unfortunately part of that is hitting manufacturing tack times and delivery. We try and treat every boat with the highest quality like a custom boat, but getting the absolute best sound or performance out of a stereo requires a little more fine tuning than we currently are set up to do. We have amp setup sheets and we do adjust every amp, but again getting the best performance out of an amp requires tuning to make sure all gains, crossovers, filters, etc are setup just right. We also typically have our amps set on the more conservative side. I am sure many of you have found that out and by adjusting the amps, you can improve performance. We understand that and we are constantly trying to improve that, but sometimes the improvements are more baby steps than anything.

Anyways, hopefully we will continue to improve all our "performance" related components including subs. But until then, we are trying to give you plenty of space and room to do whatever you would like. Hope that makes sense....

[BrettLee3232]

Hey Brett, Sorry about delay. It is amazing how fast Mondays fly by sometimes. hahaha

In regards to your question about the Sub, I totally agree that it would sound much better if it was mounted in a true enclosure. We do that on the Mojo Pro Sub and on all the Supra Subs. The way we do it on the Pro and Supra is with a fiberglass enclosure we build in house. This is a terrible excuse, but currently we have a hard time building all the current small parts and it is a resource issue. But we are constantly making changes to that and hopefully sooner than later we will be improving that area of the plant and adding an enclosure to all subs. Maybe that will be one of the 2019 improvements. The good news is we have tried to think ahead and until we offer it from the factory, there is plenty of room to build a custom box in there if you want to do that yourself.

In addition to that, the truth is we will probably never be a "custom" stereo level installation. We are a manufacturing facility and unfortunately part of that is hitting manufacturing tack times and delivery. We try and treat every boat with the highest quality like a custom boat, but getting the absolute best sound or performance out of a stereo requires a little more fine tuning than we currently are set up to do. We have amp setup sheets and we do adjust every amp, but again getting the best performance out of an amp requires tuning to make sure all gains, crossovers, filters, etc are setup just right. We also typically have our amps set on the more conservative side. I am sure many of you have found that out and by adjusting the amps, you can improve performance. We understand that and we are constantly trying to improve that, but sometimes the improvements are more baby steps than anything.

Anyways, hopefully we will continue to improve all our "performance" related components including subs. But until then, we are trying to give you plenty of space and room to do whatever you would like. Hope that makes sense....

Thanks Goose,

I understand, it's just not a Free Air Sub so people come on here and want to rip it out because it doesn't sound good and they think it's a crappy sub when it's not.....just my 2 cents

Ok I have another ballast question. In regards to the rear lockers, when you have the storage tray installed, how much room do you have between bag and bottom or the tray? Do you have dimensions of the locker? Why does it look like the side panels are at an angle? Looks like there's a bunch of room on the sides of you remove the panel? Or is it just an illusion? 🤷🏼*♂️

How much weight do you think those trays can hold? You think 2 AO coolers filled with beer? Haha

Thanks again for all your help!!


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[goose]

Thanks Goose,

I understand, it's just not a Free Air Sub so people come on here and want to rip it out because it doesn't sound good and they think it's a crappy sub when it's not.....just my 2 cents

Ok I have another ballast question. In regards to the rear lockers, when you have the storage tray installed, how much room do you have between bag and bottom or the tray? Do you have dimensions of the locker? Why does it look like the side panels are at an angle? Looks like there's a bunch of room on the sides of you remove the panel? Or is it just an illusion? 🤷🏼*♂️

How much weight do you think those trays can hold? You think 2 AO coolers filled with beer? Haha

Thanks again for all your help!!


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Brett, check these pics out....

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When the rear storage trays are in, the ballast bag fills to the very bottom of the tray. So no lost space between top of bag and bottom of tray. There is obviously some room under the gunnel to the side of the tray, but when you see how deep these are in person, I don't think you will complain about lack of storage. As you can see in the one pic, there is plenty of room for the AO stow and go cooler. I think you can keep plenty of beers cold in there if you want. I don't know how much the tray will hold, but I did stand up in it and I am about 190lbs. Like I said before, it is really designed to hold life jackets and ropes, but if beer is more of a necessity, it will hold plenty of that.

As a side note, you will notice in the picture there is a little ledge and we have mounted some eyelets on this one. This is the R&D boat. The eyelets are not on standard production, but we have toyed with the idea of straps across the ledge to hold lifejackets up or to play with dividers. Anyways, just playing around constantly trying to come up with new and better ideas...

Hope that answers your questions.

[BrettLee3232]

Brett, check these pics out....

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When the rear storage trays are in, the ballast bag fills to the very bottom of the tray. So no lost space between top of bag and bottom of tray. There is obviously some room under the gunnel to the side of the tray, but when you see how deep these are in person, I don't think you will complain about lack of storage. As you can see in the one pic, there is plenty of room for the AO stow and go cooler. I think you can keep plenty of beers cold in there if you want. I don't know how much the tray will hold, but I did stand up in it and I am about 190lbs. Like I said before, it is really designed to hold life jackets and ropes, but if beer is more of a necessity, it will hold plenty of that.

As a side note, you will notice in the picture there is a little ledge and we have mounted some eyelets on this one. This is the R&D boat. The eyelets are not on standard production, but we have toyed with the idea of straps across the ledge to hold lifejackets up or to play with dividers. Anyways, just playing around constantly trying to come up with new and better ideas...

Hope that answers your questions.

Goose, your awesome man!! I promise I'll stop asking questions soon lol. My wife's biggest complaint in our Mondo is the extra ice chest on the floor. We keep the one under the seat but always need the bigger one as well. This would be awesome to keep the floor nice and clean.

What's with the bow seat. Does that flip up for storage as well? I can't tell from the pics


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[BrettLee3232]

Came across this wave pic on Insta....I'm liking this boat more and more. Ughhhhhh I'm in trouble, wife's gonna be pissed lol is it boat show season yet?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170830/d2526a6ca202912d9f963247b51f8d70.png


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[DFTR Josh]

I'm liking this boat more and more. Ughhhhhh I'm in trouble, wife's gonna be pissed lol is it boat show season yet?
Time to get your Mondo on the market and prep for boat show season :cool:

[BrettLee3232]

Time to get your Mondo on the market and prep for boat show season :cool:

Anyone want a Mondo? Lol [emoji23]


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[goose]

Goose, your awesome man!! I promise I'll stop asking questions soon lol. My wife's biggest complaint in our Mondo is the extra ice chest on the floor. We keep the one under the seat but always need the bigger one as well. This would be awesome to keep the floor nice and clean.

What's with the bow seat. Does that flip up for storage as well? I can't tell from the pics


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Brett, see if these pics make more sense of bow storage.

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The bow backs are hinged and shocked and open up to allow access to storage under dash and under glovebox area. You can also see where we have nonskid floors. Hope that makes sense...


matt

[Stazi]

About time you guys hinged the back rests!


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[BrettLee3232]

Brett, see if these pics make more sense of bow storage.

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The bow backs are hinged and shocked and open up to allow access to storage under dash and under glovebox area. You can also see where we have nonskid floors. Hope that makes sense...


matt

Thank you. So behind the backrest (very front of boat) do we have access to that as well? Or is it just under seat?

Yeah about time for hinged and shocked [emoji6]


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[KG's Supra24]

I would love hinged seats!

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[That Guy]

So behind the backrest (very front of boat) do we have access to that as well?
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Not to my knowledge. I asked that exact question when we went out on a Max a few weeks ago, there seems to be so much dead space right there in the nose that I suggested they either make the backrest hinged OR make the top piece where the step pad is a door that you can open and stow your anchor in. I've seen it on some other boats or some boats put a bow ladder under a hinged door there, I think it'd be a great use of space though for an anchor. Plus more bow weight!

[BrettLee3232]

Not to my knowledge. I asked that exact question when we went out on a Max a few weeks ago, there seems to be so much dead space right there in the nose that I suggested they either make the backrest hinged OR make the top piece where the step pad is a door that you can open and stow your anchor in. I've seen it on some other boats or some boats put a bow ladder under a hinged door there, I think it'd be a great use of space though for an anchor. Plus more bow weight!

That's what I was wondering!!! Plus a Fat Sac [emoji137]🏼*♂️ haha


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[goose]

The front bow back does not flip up and we don't have access from the top. But when you see this boat, I don't think you will be missing storage locations. You could easily store an anchor under the front bow cushion. Keep in mind there is no bow sack under the cushions because we already have 1000lbs under the floor in the front. I am a huge fan of displacement, but I think you will find plenty of space in the middle of the boat to add extra weight and you might not need the extra weight in the actual bow. Most people put a lot of weight in the very back and then offset that with bow weight in the very front. But with this boat having so much potential to add extra weight in the very middle of the boat, then you might like that better.

[BrettLee3232]

The front bow back does not flip up and we don't have access from the top. But when you see this boat, I don't think you will be missing storage locations. You could easily store an anchor under the front bow cushion. Keep in mind there is no bow sack under the cushions because we already have 1000lbs under the floor in the front. I am a huge fan of displacement, but I think you will find plenty of space in the middle of the boat to add extra weight and you might not need the extra weight in the actual bow. Most people put a lot of weight in the very back and then offset that with bow weight in the very front. But with this boat having so much potential to add extra weight in the very middle of the boat, then you might like that better.

Thanks, just seems like wasted dead space up there. I agree there's a ton of space. Just trying to see where everything's at. Is that all dead space & blocked off? Or it's open you just don't have access to it all?


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[NoleAlum]

Anyone surfed behind one yet?

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[JustinC]

Goose, can you comment on the wakes? Or post any pics or video other than the website promo video?
Really interested in the wakeboard wakes from 18-20 mph for the kids, as well as fully weighted between 20 - 22mph.
And obviously any surfing pics or videos would be appreciated for those of us who can't demo one anytime soon...

[BrettLee3232]

Yeah goose!!!! Wtf? Where you at? Lol


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[Prospersigman]

[QUOTE=BrettLee3232;315639]Yeah goose!!!! Wtf? Where you at? Lol

Maybe he got tired of you whipping his ass with questions ;)

[BrettLee3232]

[QUOTE=BrettLee3232;315639]Yeah goose!!!! Wtf? Where you at? Lol

Maybe he got tired of you whipping his ass with questions ;)

Haha it's not my fault Moomba hyped up this boat but had ZERO info on their website about it. All my dealer could tell me is "it's deeeeep" lol

SC has to hurry up and update their website. Not sure why Supras website got updated but Moomba didn't 🤦🏼*♂️



Where's goose????? [emoji16]


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[MJHSupra]

Not sure why Supras website got updated but Moomba didn't

Probably those Russians again . . . .

[goose]

[QUOTE=Prospersigman;315643]

Haha it's not my fault Moomba hyped up this boat but had ZERO info on their website about it. All my dealer could tell me is "it's deeeeep" lol

SC has to hurry up and update their website. Not sure why Supras website got updated but Moomba didn't 🤦🏼*♂️



Where's goose????? [emoji16]


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Hey you guys!!! Maybe I am showing my age with that one...

Anyways, sorry about the delay. Been too busy enjoying the amazing wakes behind the Max all week. Just kidding, well, not really, I was on it most of the weekend and Monday.

As to the waves and wakes, I got to be honest, I hate posting pictures of that. If you get the wrong angle on the good side, then people think it is photoshoped. If you get the wrong angle from too high, then the waves and wakes look tiny. Almost every picture I have seen of a wave becomes love/hate and then this thread will become 200 pages long and people will lose interest. I try to spend more time on facts and logic and less on marketing type stuff. Some of you might think I am taking the easy way out, but all I can do is recommend you get behind one soon or find a consumer that has already bought one and see what they say. You can also contact a few dealers and see what they say. I know our dealer Southtown in NC recently pulled a contest with a Max and they had big names like Andrew Atkinson there and they were all bragging about how good the wakes were. And I have a 10 year old that loves the wakeboard and surf waves. I think you will love the wakes and waves.

As to the website, I think they are trying to get it up this week. I have been reviewing it this week myself so you should see it really soon.....

[jwl019]

[QUOTE=BrettLee3232;315659]
As to the website, I think they are trying to get it up this week. I have been reviewing it this week myself so you should see it really soon.....

Is the "'16 Moomba Boats" at the top of this page going to get changed to at least '17 or '18 this week too?

[DFTR Josh]

Is the "'16 Moomba Boats" at the top of this page going to get changed to at least '17 or '18 this week too?
Jeremy you going to get your VLX updated :cool:

[jwl019]

Jeremy you going to get your VLX updated :cool:

Working on it! Found my dealer and have been in contact with them. Looking at making the jump to a Craz possibly once the spread between mine and it shrinks just a little more, but we are not far off. Maybe with rebates or boat show pricing it will line up just right.

[Stazi]

Love my Craz. Great sized boat and a great price.


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[DFTR Josh]

Working on it! Found my dealer and have been in contact with them. Looking at making the jump to a Craz possibly once the spread between mine and it shrinks just a little more, but we are not far off. Maybe with rebates or boat show pricing it will line up just right.

FEB is boat show time in UT and I can't wait. Good luck finding your boat.


DFTR Josh
Moomba/Supra
www.marine-products.com
(Discount code: DFTR)

[jwl019]

FEB is boat show time in UT and I can't wait. Good luck finding your boat.


DFTR Josh
Moomba/Supra
www.marine-products.com
(Discount code: DFTR)

Thank ya sir, ours usually falls around the last weekend of duck season down here in LA in late January or first weekend of February.. If duck season has been bad with warmer weather, I usually make it to the show instead.

[trayson]

Okay Goose, here it is! Trayson's Max! can someone give me a cool $75K?
(and I was being conservative with no engine upgrade or triton racks...)

https://i.imgur.com/vOZqZyA.jpg

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[That Guy]

Looks sweet! Considering you could probably get close to 30k for your boat just use that as a down payment!

[goose]

That would be a sweet looking boat. Honestly, I don't think I have seen that color combo here yet. It would look awesome! I have seen the lighter blue metal flake and black and I thought it was awesome too! Hope you can get into one soon. I am sure your dealer can work a better deal than what we show on the configurator...

[derekhtv]

Hey everybody

First time posting on the forum after lurking for while. Finalizing my order on a new Max with my "local" dealer now. Not toooo fond of the spray patterns available for the Max, but it'll do I suppose. Hoping the release the white tower before boat is built for this though.

I guess I'm not allowed to post pictures yet so no pics of the build I guess, it's red white and blue though.

[derekhtv]

Nvm, got it.

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[kaneboats]

'merica!!!

[Stazi]

I'm as patriotic as can be, but those colors are not my cup of tea.


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