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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNSTUCK View Post
    I've always been impressed with SC showing weights of the boat and trailer in their advertising. I'm not sure if any other company does. However, taking boat weights from Tige and MB as well as trailer weights from Boatmate, in my experience the numbers are always way low. On paper, my boat weighs 6000 and the trailer is 1400. However, on the scales together (loaded for a day at the lake) the total weight is 8540. No lead. Once cooler full of ice and drinks. Surfboards and jackets. Medium box anchor. That's it. Maybe 200 in extras. So where is the extra weight coming from that Tige or Boatmate forgot to mention? Just fuel?

    Has anyone found SC to have more accurate numbers?

    My point is to not rely on advertising numbers when you decide if your rig call pull/stop your new boat. If you haven't scaled your boat/trailer you should.
    You easily could have 500# of fluids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Isaguel View Post
    Interesting, I did not know you can use a WDH on one of these trailers with a tongue. Good to know. Never seen one of those "adapters". Learn something new every. day.
    I'm not sure if it is different from the adapter shown but they also make a WDH designed for use on a pole tongue trailer WITH surge brakes. I think it looks more fit for purpose than this one does with the adapter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dakota4ce View Post
    You easily could have 500# of fluids.


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    Yes, I know. Took owning a boat or two to fully realize it. Again, my point is that anyone thinking they can tow a boat based on the manufactures listed weights may be in for a surprise. If you think you might be over your tow rigs limits, put the boat on a scale and find out, before you commit to purchasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdlangston13 View Post
    I'm not sure if it is different from the adapter shown but they also make a WDH designed for use on a pole tongue trailer WITH surge brakes. I think it looks more fit for purpose than this one does with the adapter.
    Link to single pole specific WDH? I have only found the adapter style so far


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    Decent explanation of airbags vs WDH.

    https://youtu.be/XBZu39pQ8Gg


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2in2out View Post
    My next boat trailer will have EOH brakes. I’ve had hell putting backing my boat into my driveway and at one certain ramp because they are both uphill, and the surge brakes engage. I have a lockout tool, but it only stays on about half the time. I’d much rather have EOH with the grades I pull. Similar to what Sandm describes.
    I have a terrible time with the surge brakes.....to the point where I just put my key in every time I am going to launch ( which is every time we boat) I even have the key attached to a tether so its always there. I had Marine products test it (they said its fine and works well) Tried it on my F250 ...locked up, Tundra...Locked up. Now it does work if I go 1/16th of a mph....literally the slowest crawl you can do, and even then it locks up. Check tow hook ups, breakers everything. I tow all the time (not with surge) and have no towing issues except with this trailer.

    Any thoughts? Adjustments on the surge? No one at Marine. products could help me, not did they have a solution except it works when they tested it.

    I have a system now with the key, but its annoying and frustrating.
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    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour..._4Casge3CLC5e9

    Some troubleshooting for surge brakes.
    They should not engage at all in reverse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockymtnsurfer View Post
    Any thoughts? Adjustments on the surge? No one at Marine. products could help me, not did they have a solution except it works when they tested it.

    I have a system now with the key, but its annoying and frustrating.
    The VM trailer only did it when backing uphill. I would have to put it in 4lo to back into my driveway. I had to do the slow creep as well. At the ramp, the slope from the ready line to the turnout, along with the angle I was at would occasionally cause a lock up when I’d start backing. It was a matter of pulling forward and changing the angle.

    I haven’t had a problem with the boatmate trailer yet. But, it won’t fit in my driveway, so I won’t get to test it. Depending on what house we buy when we relocate, then it may become an issue.

    I never had a problem with out travel trailer, but they were EOH. My buddy’s UTV trailer backed fine and it has a surge system on it.
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    No issues backing my previous boatmate uphill. My driveway has a decent incline.


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    Surge brakes should not lock up when backing up. Mine never do on an incline. You have a bad connection somewhere, likely at the 7 pin plug/ hitch receiver end. I had a malfunction with the plug receiver on my F-150, it was finnicky and would connect and disconnect, lights would not work either, the whole plug receiver was malfunctioning. Sometimes had to get out of truck walk to the back and pull it out and reconnect or wiggle it to get power flowing. Brought it into Ford and was replaced under warranty. No problems since.
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