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Thread: Brake problem
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11-08-2003, 07:36 PM #1Senior Member
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Brake problem
Finally had my new boat delivered today. A 2002 Mobius that came from a far away state. Hooked it up to test it out, and it trailers beautifully. However, I cannot get it to back up. Feels like the brakes are catching. I mean it will not move an inch. Crazy thing is, as soon as I unhook it from my truck, it rolls around perfectly on the street. Is there a safety switch on this thing I don't know about? I have a single axle Boatmate Trailer. This is my fourth boat, and have never had anything like this at all. Any help would be appreciated.
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11-08-2003, 08:21 PM #2
Trailer
Check to see if there is a lever of some sort on the side of the trailer where it hitches onto your hitch, if there is one it should have two positions ( towing / backing ). I have an older trailer (89) not sure how the newer ones are but mine is not very user friendly if I have it in the wrong position.
88 Supra Bravura
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11-08-2003, 10:43 PM #3
Ssurge Brakes
I have a 1999 Boatmate single axle trailer for my Mobius. We do not have the 'electric' controlled brakes (the blue wire). We had the same problem until I contacted Owen at Boatmate and he provided me with a lockout tab.
The hitch is independent from the tubular channel that makes up the trailer. There is a bolt that goes through the channel and hitch and is part of the surge brake system. it is about 6-8 inches in from the end of the channel. This bolt is in an oval shaped hole. When you back up the boat, the whole hitch moves inside the channel until that bolt hits something to stop it from traveling. If that something is the end of the oval hole then you have activated the brakes and the boat will not back up.
The tab that Owen sent is D-shaped and can ony be inserted between the bolt and the back of the oval hole when the brakes are fully released. This is hard to visualize, but when you get the tab it becomes pretty self-evident. If I had the boat here I could shoot a photo, but in storage off site.
Check out Owen at:
[email protected]
HTH
DaveIf you believe something to be true, it will be - in it's consequences.
2009 MasterCraft ProStar 197 - DD - 5.7L - 325HP - Zero Off
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11-09-2003, 12:55 AM #4Senior Member
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And, try this website.
http://www.ufpnet.com/
It should give details about the operation and maintenance of the brake actuator subcomponents used by boatmate.
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11-09-2003, 03:06 AM #5Senior Member
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I had that same problem pop up on my 2001 after a year or so, the brake starting locking on me. I crimped the connecter slightly for the blue wire so the contact was better and haven't had a problem since.
It's great to see someone ask for help on this board and get so many responses.
Brian
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11-09-2003, 08:25 AM #6Senior Member
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Thx guys. I will check out all options and report back. Couldn't back it up my driveway b/c of this, so I had to take it out to a friends who has a drive-thru barn. Like getting a new toy at Christmas that you can't play with!!
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11-09-2003, 01:32 PM #7
Actuator Photo
I got this off the website Catdog mentioned. The red arrow indicates the oval hole I was talking about. If you have a five pin connector make sure that that your wiring harness on the tow vehicle is good.
You can use anything you want to stop the movement of the bolt in the oval hole, but the tab that Boatmate provides works best. It should have come with the boat if new. If from a private party they may still have it.
HTH
DaveIf you believe something to be true, it will be - in it's consequences.
2009 MasterCraft ProStar 197 - DD - 5.7L - 325HP - Zero Off
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11-09-2003, 09:56 PM #8Member
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Happened to Me
Man Samething happened to me and I had pulled right up to a fence before baking up to my shed. Translation couldn't go forward or backward and was on gravel. Luckily, I cuaght the boys at Dallas Waterski Boats right before they were closing and they told me to make sure the trailer connector was plugged all the way in. It wasn't so I pushed it all the way in, and it backed up with no problem. I was freakin out trying to figure out how I was going to get out of that jam. Hope it is something simple like mine and not a major deal.
Matt Elliott
2003 Mobius
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11-10-2003, 08:31 AM #9Senior Member
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Five Pin connector? Could this be it? I have a four pin connector on my vehicle, while the trailer has a five pin. What is the fifth and unused one for? Obviously guys, I am a mechanical idiot. Also, thanks for the picture. I will take a look today and see if one of those pins is in the trailer.
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11-10-2003, 11:17 AM #10Senior Member
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Yes the 5 pin connector is the key, the 5th space is for reverse lights, which on the trailer, disengages the brake. You can just turn on your lights and swap the wiring harness around, plug the unused slot in the trailer harness to the pin right next to the ground connector on your vehicle, turn on the lights and you should be able to back up fine! The ground connector on your vehicle is the one that is different than the others, cant remember if it is male or female, but the other 3 are different.
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