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    Quote Originally Posted by larry_arizona View Post
    Ask yourself what you get for the extra $30k……there is your answer.


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    Yep my thinking as well.
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    I think 2022 SL400 140-145k, SL450 maybe 150-155k is what I would be looking at used. Some of those boats on onlyinboards are beautiful. For the price jump to a new one I would probably look used. A 2022 should still have 4 years of warranty
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    Quote Originally Posted by cozilla View Post
    Is there a point to buy a new SL at that price when you can buy a used 2022 with under 100 hours for 30-40k less?
    Warranty is the only thing I can think of. If you buy new and plan on selling the boat in a few years, your warranty will transfer. If you buy a used one, you are the second owner, and any warranty will not transfer to the third owner.

    The SL had the redo in 2022, so the hull or ballast is not different in 2023. Sometimes there might be computer changes (if necessary).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgswake View Post
    I think 2022 SL400 140-145k, SL450 maybe 150-155k is what I would be looking at used.
    I agree. I noticed more SL450s vs SL400s on the used market last fall. Most of the 450s were starting in the high-170s and not sure they were selling at that price point going into winter. Should be interesting to see next spring.
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    Default 2023 Boat Shows

    Most 21 and 22ís came with 7 year powertrain warranty, 5 year bow to stern (although there are several things not included)

    There can be quite a range on 21-22 Supras in price, 450 and thrusters are $9k options each.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgswake View Post
    I think it is manufacturer greed and 10-20 year loans driving the price increases. With supply chain and inflation playing a lesser role.
    agree 100%.
    OI has gone up another 10% in the last 3 weeks and 2023 listings did as well. another interest rate hike next week should push loan rates a tick higher again.
    all indicators are suggesting a market slowdown has started which will drive production cuts and larger discounts off msrp. I bet most boat builders have already talked production cuts in their staff meetings.

    if I were in the market for a boat today, I'd sit out until august and see what happens. rent one several times during the summer instead of making payments. I think someone could save 10's of thousands...

    housing and car prices have already started to drop.
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    Interest rates are the killer right now. This will hurt more than the price hikes.


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    Because SC produces a lower number of boats, I assume this does not affect them as much as MC or BU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MJHSupra View Post
    Because SC produces a lower number of boats, I assume this does not affect them as much as MC or BU.
    interesting question and thought. I would have said 'bu and mc since they have other lines targeted at different customers and different pricepoints where Skiers only caters to the towboat market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgswake View Post
    I think it is manufacturer greed and 10-20 year loans driving the price increases.
    Not sure about greed but Definetely the long term financing and low rates contributed to the crazy price increases.

    No different than what financing did to college tuition and real estate.

    When did 20 year financing become a thing for rec boats? My guess is 5 years ago it was not nearly available as it is now.

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