2023 Supra Models

[HFarr]

LOL! Low impact, Old guy, low learning curve! You just profiled me perfectly! Ha, Ha. But hey, old guy is relative you know!

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[2in2out]

These days you have to grow old before you can afford a boat, so old guys wakesurfing is going to be the new norm.


2022 SA 450

[mgswake]

Not trying to insult anyone. I have seen wakesurf injuries, just not as many as skiing and wakeboarding. And the learning curve more for getting up. The tricks are still difficult. And you are right old is a relative term. But I’ve seen people in middle age coming back to boating or just getting into solely based on their wakesurfing experience. This is all anecdotal from talking with friends, forum posts, and FB posts

[larry_arizona]

I had to look up the equation, but 230% seemed off. It’s 130% increase. But still just mind blowing that the prices have increased so much. Prior to Covid I complained about increases and now they are just getting worse.

I truly blame walesurfing as it has just exploded in participation. And, because of the low impact and relatively low learning curve compared to other water sports, it has brought with it a older crowd with better credit and deeper pockets. That’s not supposed to be a dog at wakesurfing, just my rationale on what is driving up prices. Also, the supply chain issues and inflation.

Thanks for correcting, yes, still mind blowing


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[HFarr]

Not trying to insult anyone. I have seen wakesurf injuries, just not as many as skiing and wakeboarding. And the learning curve more for getting up. The tricks are still difficult. And you are right old is a relative term. But I’ve seen people in middle age coming back to boating or just getting into solely based on their wakesurfing experience. This is all anecdotal from talking with friends, forum posts, and FB posts

I'm not insulted.
Just poking fun

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[j.mo]

They are overpriced IMHO. I wish one of the big companies would make a budget boat without all the fancy electronics. I just want a nice wake machine. Heck, Axis and Moomba are well over 100k now. Even Heydays are over 100k. Seems like the rising prices at the top just kept dragging the lower end brands up in price. Hard to even find a deal on a used boat right now. The past year or two, they have all been priced over what the original owners paid. I can't see how people keep dishing out the money for these boats. When you start approaching 200-300k what average person has that kind of money to throw at a wake boat? It is baffling to me, but the demand seems just as high as ever.

Idk man, my buddies ‘19 T22 is just that.
A wake tractor. Nothing more in my opinion lol.
No frills. At all.


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[haknslash]

@haknslash Are you pricing the 2023? I think there is a big price increase coming that hasn’t been applied to the online builder yet. Or, have you priced 2023’s with your dealer?

I spec’d an SL400 2022 and it was 182,000 before dealer discount. Add a 450/550 and thruster and you are at or over 200k. That is a 2022, prices are jumping up for 2023.

Yes quotes are for 2022 build sheet with an $18k 2023 price increase line item tacked on. I don’t think my dealer has updated their spec sheet to say 2023 until after the 2023 SC dealer meeting happening I think this week or very soon. Boat was moderately equipped with 400 and prop upgrade. Only options I didn’t splurge on were trailer options or 2 pair of tower speakers etc. had enough room to add 450 engine and thrusters not going over $200k. Idk. I can’t really fathom upgrading right now since my Max does plenty for what really matters without the luxury. We have been waiting on housing market to crash so we can get in on a home foreclosure. After then a boat upgrade maybe.

[KnoxMojo]

Not trying to insult anyone. I have seen wakesurf injuries, just not as many as skiing and wakeboarding. And the learning curve more for getting up. The tricks are still difficult. And you are right old is a relative term. But I’ve seen people in middle age coming back to boating or just getting into solely based on their wakesurfing experience. This is all anecdotal from talking with friends, forum posts, and FB posts

You are exactly right about the wakesurf only crowd driving up prices. But we also have way better tech now and boats are so much easier to use than 5-10 years ago. 6 pump ballast has been a blessing, knowing the running attitude of the boat at a glance and other advances. But yeah, upper middle class that only surf are driving prices up. Sucks to say that I am priced out of the new Supra market. Even a new well equipped Mojo is $20k higher than I paid for our brand new SA in '18.

[uniwarking]

Just a few things to think about…. there is a lot at play here…. everything is through the roof pricing wise. So much has changed in 10 years with the build quality and tech on these boats... just like automotive, Ag equipment and about anything else. Corona also drive prices of everything from raw materials to micros up and the supply chain still hasn’t recovered. Many of these price increases are likely only maintaining margin on sales, it’s a tough place to be. Corona also drive people outside… and into hobbies that were family/close friend oriented such as boating. Many of our local sporting good/outdoor stores were waiting on truck loads of pre-sold kayaks not too long ago too.

And sure, “old” people surf… but I think there are more young people not skiing, kneeboarding and wakeboarding and opting to surf instead. Just like everything else, things change. Often times, I’m also seeing wakeboats being used by people who don’t even participate in water sports… maybe a tube but the racks are empty and they’re anchored up or on the beach.

I think if you looked at runabouts or pontoon boats, pricing growth would be similar.


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[larry_arizona]

You are exactly right about the wakesurf only crowd driving up prices. But we also have way better tech now and boats are so much easier to use than 5-10 years ago. 6 pump ballast has been a blessing, knowing the running attitude of the boat at a glance and other advances. But yeah, upper middle class that only surf are driving prices up. Sucks to say that I am priced out of the new Supra market. Even a new well equipped Mojo is $20k higher than I paid for our brand new SA in '18.

I am tapped out of Supra now too. But honestly a GEN2 or GEN3 SA is leaving me wanting for nothing.

One bonus with high gas prices is Lake traffic is way down this season.


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