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    When you start adding up the impacts of drought in the other systems such as the Snake River, Boise, Salmon, Owyhee, Humbolt, Carson, Walker, and Truckee River systems that feed the sinks and lakes within the Great Basin, you start to realize how those affect the Rockies.

    Severe drought in the west means severe drought in the Midwest. One solution is gravity flumes of sea water pumped into alkali flats of the Great Basin to change the hydrology back to what it was before European settlers started damming and diverting water from the sinks in the desert. This changed the hydrology and of the basin, resulting in less monsoonal releases during the summer, and less lake effect snow during the winter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sandm View Post
    makes me sick to see houses being built like this one with the stupid uses of water and the upper 1%'ers flat don't care since they have the cash to pay.

    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6...pid/?mmlb=g,23

    toured it a couple years ago and the amount of water flowing around/through/outside the house that served no purpose other than to evaporate was stupid and this is one of dozens and dozens up in the highlands/ascaya that use thousands of gallons of water.
    The 1% that owns that probably has four or more around the nation, and spends less time there than you did touring it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2in2out View Post
    When you start adding up the impacts of drought in the other systems such as the Snake River, Boise, Salmon, Owyhee, Humbolt, Carson, Walker, and Truckee River systems that feed the sinks and lakes within the Great Basin, you start to realize how those affect the Rockies.

    Severe drought in the west means severe drought in the Midwest. One solution is gravity flumes of sea water pumped into alkali flats of the Great Basin to change the hydrology back to what it was before European settlers started damming and diverting water from the sinks in the desert. This changed the hydrology and of the basin, resulting in less monsoonal releases during the summer, and less lake effect snow during the winter.


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    We have the opposite of drought in the Midwest. Great Lakes levels are at record levels. I think peak was 2019-2020, highest since 1918, they have dipped about a foot but on the rise again in 2022.

    No drought here.

    Michigan lakes are absurdly high.


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    Took my son to Orlando today for a lesson with Brandon Judd and he did his first wake to wake. (He did shorten the rope but we can build from this ). I will definitely take my son to him again. Great with Will and really built up some new skills.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigs28 View Post
    Took my son to Orlando today for a lesson with Brandon Judd and he did his first wake to wake. (He did shorten the rope but we can build from this ). I will definitely take my son to him again. Great with Will and really built up some new skills.


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    Good stuff. Not sure I ever heard of something negative about Brandon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2in2out View Post
    The 1% that owns that probably has four or more around the nation, and spends less time there than you did touring it.


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    I watch the real estate market pretty closely here as we have done a few deals and you would be surprised at the number of "second" houses that are modest 500-800k houses in neighborhoods rather than the mcmansions being built up on the hills around the valley. our last culdesac had a median value of 650k. of the 8 houses making it up, 3 were second or 3rd homes. the hill behind us had a median value of 2mil. of the 14 on the hill, 2 were second homes. a good chunk of the mcmansions are vp's in the casino industry or business owners in the valley. this is their primary residence.

    thx zog for the info. in the selfish me me me culture that currently permeates the US and everyone's desire to sue when someone looks at you wrong, I don't know that I see powell or mead returning to their glory days even with 2 strong years of snowfall. we sold our boat solely based on water at mead and lack of ramps and frankly if I had a timeshare at powell, it would be gone as well. I could be wrong but everyone seems to want to move to the southwest and more and more people with no real change in usage will continue to doom the lakes. the gov't may try to tighten up again(late to the party as usual) but once they do, the lawsuits will come a flyin from farmers and the navajo nation.

    side note, california water usage in march is up 19% over 2020 and 27% in LA valley. think the message is getting through?
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    I spoke with some CA friends last summer and they were surprised to hear that we were still in a drought since they weren't hearing about it in LA. Definitely need better messaging around water usage. Here it is about helping people make informed decisions. We didn't have water meters on our secondary irrigation until a few years ago. When they started giving feedback about how much water was being used, irrigation water dropped by 30% versus homes that didn't have meters. Wasteful use like that home you posted drives me crazy though. I look at the golf courses that have senior water rights and lush green lawns when everyone else is burning up and wonder why that use is so protected. They make claims about necessity, but it becomes a few prioritizing their right over the many. While legally they are correct, morally they don't have a lot of defense. While I am sad that I have lost my favorite local boating spot temporarily, I recognize that others will lose a lot more if we don't fix this situation.

    I am fine with Powell under all water levels. As long as I can launch the boat, we are good. At dead pool, there will still be around 200 feet of water under the slips on the north end. They just need to get the launch ramp situation dealt with for the shifts in water level and life will be good.


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    A pic from my youngest son’s ride this morning


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy2slow View Post
    A pic from my youngest son’s ride this morning


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    Quote Originally Posted by sandm View Post
    makes me sick to see houses being built like this one with the stupid uses of water and the upper 1%'ers flat don't care since they have the cash to pay.

    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6...pid/?mmlb=g,23

    toured it a couple years ago and the amount of water flowing around/through/outside the house that served no purpose other than to evaporate was stupid and this is one of dozens and dozens up in the highlands/ascaya that use thousands of gallons of water.
    We all know who are building and buying those homes. The same people who have leveled off mountain sides elsewhere.
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