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    Quote Originally Posted by larry_arizona View Post

    OEM’s would love 98 octane pump gas. They could use less displacement, higher boost/compression, have cleaner burn, higher horsepower, cleaner emission and better mpg.

    But try to convince a green politician of that despite the data. Only thing they comprehend is oil is bad.

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    The cost of the logistics of refining and distributing 98 are the real killer. That is why 93 has such a cost disparity to 89.


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    sorry larry. should have been more specific I think.. for the station owner to switch from e10 to e15 or e85, they have to replace parts of the fuel delivery system and it has to be "certified" by the epa. it's not simply a matter of an e10 station filling the tanks with e15. however it is backwards compatible so e85 tanks/pumps can run anything.

    I have been digging into swapping the 6.2 in our ss from gas to e85 and it's only adding some fuel components and a tune. up side is 50whp easily. down side is access to e85 out west is not easy. only a couple stations in the vegas valley and only 1 in henderson. not worth the extra oomph.
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    Default Beware of E15 fuel this summer

    Quote Originally Posted by sandm View Post
    sorry larry. should have been more specific I think.. for the station owner to switch from e10 to e15 or e85, they have to replace parts of the fuel delivery system and it has to be "certified" by the epa. it's not simply a matter of an e10 station filling the tanks with e15. however it is backwards compatible so e85 tanks/pumps can run anything.

    I have been digging into swapping the 6.2 in our ss from gas to e85 and it's only adding some fuel components and a tune. up side is 50whp easily. down side is access to e85 out west is not easy. only a couple stations in the vegas valley and only 1 in henderson. not worth the extra oomph.
    If you do install a flex fuel kit, get the DSX. Dave pretty much invented the aftermarket flex fuel kits and uses high quality fittings.

    I have installed many of flex kits and some cheaper kits on the market are pretty bad and tend to leak.




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    That's a 550....he should be using race fuel e0.....lol
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    At the gas station yesterday I went in to buy a drink and the guy in front of me took 10 minutes to explain to the cashier why they should be selling ethanol free and how it really was cheaper for the consumer. He said he was a chemist and knew better. All I know is that my car gets the same mileage either way, but it can handle E10. I don't want water in my fuel so I use ethanol free 91 in the boat.


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    Default Beware of E15 fuel this summer

    Quote Originally Posted by Zog View Post
    At the gas station yesterday I went in to buy a drink and the guy in front of me took 10 minutes to explain to the cashier why they should be selling ethanol free and how it really was cheaper for the consumer. He said he was a chemist and knew better. All I know is that my car gets the same mileage either way, but it can handle E10. I don't want water in my fuel so I use ethanol free 91 in the boat.
    You should get roughly 5% better mpg with E0 vs E10


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason1975 View Post
    This is nothing more than a political ploy to try to make it look like something is being done. It will cause more issues actually and isn't long term any way you look at it, its just stupidity. My understanding is gas stations MUST label E15 gas.
    Was it a political "stunt" when the last President did it? Even though prices were not being artificially inflated due to lagging supply, some of which is intentional? E15 is widely available as it is so how does lifting the summer ban do anything but make less expensive fuel an option, drastically improve the finances of farmers across the midwest and increase the amount of biofuel in use? And FWIW, you haven't been forced to use it and that isn't changing. Most all modern vehicles are designed to handle it just fine. It won't cause any more of your so-called issues that it does the rest of the year.
    Biden has outpaced Trump with drilling permits, but the industry isn't drilling out of uncertainty over how long they can rake in higher profits. Even as he releases more oil from the reserves it won't have a big effect because the oil industry and traders are thumbing their noses at us, the consumer. They are sitting on over 9000 permits while, once again, raking in record billions.
    The issue with gas prices is directly tied to oil production, prices and refining. Oil prices rise and fall at the whim of buyers and the drop in production during the pandemic causes them to lose money which they are making back now. Production is still not back domestically and then you have Putin and Opec refusing to return production to previous levels. All this aside, refining in February was operating at around 58% capacity down from the ~ 80% in January. Not a single one of the 3 universally accepted major factors are influenced by a President. But a President can mitigate the greed and lack of cooperation, which is exactly what he is doing.


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    Just get gas prices where they were. America could care less how that is done.
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