Beware of E15 fuel this summer

[larry_arizona]

The administration is likely going to allow widespread emergency use of E15 fuel this summer.

Beware the raptors are not approved to use it.



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[HFarr]

Nope. It will give you worse gas mileage too in other vehicles.

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[MJHSupra]

Joe will try anything before the Nov Midterms . . . "Ds" still going to get their clock cleaned.

[MLA]

I wonder if there will be proper notice on pumps or will it just show up in the tanks and we will know after the damage is done.

[larry_arizona]

One of the road blocks is the equipment upgrades at gas stations.

Because not all vehicles/equipment can safety use E15, there would be significant litigation if it wasn’t posted with warning.

99% of the general public doesn’t understand why it doesn’t work.


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[MJHSupra]

I think that is what Trump tried with an order to fulfill one of his campaign promises, have E15 in the 10% pumps.

And that was struck down in the courts b/c that is not how congress wrote the original federal law.

[2in2out]

I’ll say this move is sure to compound inflationary pressures and is not looking towards the large scale analytic evidence. Grain corn which is the primary source of ethanol is going to be scarce due to worldwide demand, reduced grain production from Russia’s wrongful actions in Ukraine, and Midwest drought conditions.

Grain corn price increases will be distributed through meat and milk markets driving prices even higher, and increasing nationwide internal combustion engine failures, effecting everything from lawnmowers to AVgas when E15 cross contamination occurs.

Add to the increased costs of spill cleanup due the miscibility of E15 and increase in ozone pollution, I can’t agree with the admins shift on this.


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[larry_arizona]

Ethanol in gas has never been a good idea.

The only advantage it has is E85 (105 octane)is technically a race fuel for high horsepower engines IF you have enough fuel pump capacity to run it and of course tune for it. The Stoichiometry is much different than gasoline.

But E15 is not approved in the raptor marine engine applications. Max alcohol is approved at 10%.

My guess is the raptors would run lean on E15 and too much alcohol and the risk of the alcohol absorbing water in a boat application.


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[Zog]

Won't change much for me as I will continue to put ethanol free blue gas in my tank.

[Mxmark4]

I have done some e85 builds that made crazy power. Built an Sti for a customer that made 520 awhp on e 85. But the injectors were so big that the car ran like crap when on 93 pump gas. Of course the downside of higher ethanol fuels is increased consumption. My boat drinks enough that I dont want it to be using a fuel that burns twice as much. Our local station now charges same price for e85 as reg 87.