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Thread: Is my trailer even legal!!??
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01-01-2022, 05:44 AM #21
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01-01-2022, 12:45 PM #22
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01-03-2022, 10:31 AM #23
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01-03-2022, 11:03 AM #24
You hear back from the manufacturer?
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01-03-2022, 11:30 AM #25Senior Member
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I think it's good that the mfg get some pushback on this topic, I suspect this is the case with many of the newer wake boat trailers. With the GVWR on the axles, I see no reason that it could not be safely rated for trailer GVWR or 7700lbs.
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01-03-2022, 11:57 AM #26
I’m in agreement with this. My bags rarely drain fully, and we rarely got either boat below 1/2 tank of fuel. Add lead to properly weight your boat, and residual in bags, plus gear, and GVWR could easily be exceeded.
Even if I moved 500 lbs out of the boat and into the bed of the truck, with non-weight distributed tongue and payload weight I’d be at the max of my GCWR.
The trailer manufacturers/engineers should be recognizing this and adapting to at least a 1.5:1 system safety factor in the builds.
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01-03-2022, 12:31 PM #27
I would not say trailer makers practice safety factors of >1.5:1 as a rule.
Working in Automotive (Specifically automotive safety), I have always been astounded how the automotive aftermarket is largely unregulated by Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS). My feeling is trailer makers fit in the non OEM aftermarket category.
I am not positive, but trailer makers likely do not follow FMVSS standards. Clearly in this case a trailer was ordered by a boat dealer for a specific model boat and the tags are in question.
Hard to determine who is liable. Dealer, boat owner or trailer manufacturer?
I would tend to think Dealer for ordering an undersized trailer for the given load. There is no way a dealer is intelligent enough to even consider if the trailer can handle the load. Their primary concern is profit. If Boatmate is MB’s suggested trailer partner, I am confident Boatmate takes the mass of the boat into consideration. Once a dealer goes to an outside trailer source, I question that trailer.
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01-03-2022, 01:17 PM #28
I can't see any advantage for a dealer to this. If the dealer doesn't fix the discrepancy, I would recommend going to the State Patrol who in most states do the weight enforcement. They would say whether the trailer meets the requirements and if not should start an investigation.
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01-03-2022, 03:08 PM #29
Is my trailer even legal!!??
The advantage is, more profit. If the dealer doesn’t understand the weight rating,then they are just after that it’s less than a Boatmate and they can make more money selling a metal craft.
Dealer: “Ratings, we don’t need no stinking ratings”
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01-04-2022, 10:44 AM #30
Does your axle still have a tag on it to be able to verify its rating or how may lugs are on the hub? Sure looks like they have the labels all wrong on it.
If you think boat trailers are pushing the limits, don't even look at the tags on an RV. They most certainly take the hitch weight subtractions into their calcs as the axles would be way under rated without it. I see it all the time that a trailer will be rated for 16,000lbs max with 2-7,000 axles and a hitch weight of 2,500 lbs. So in their calcs they are clear by 500lbs2021 Makai