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  1. #1
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    Default Is my trailer even legal!!??

    I don’t know how I just noticed this. I went to my owners forum (I don’t have a Moomba) but it is really small with not a lot of participation….so I wanted to post here

    I don’t see how my trailer that was sold new with my 2021 MB is even in the ballpark of being certificated to trailer my boat. It’s a metalcraft double axle with 20” wheels. There is nothing “special” and the vast majority of boats delivered from my dealer come with this exact trailer.

    My boat manufacture’s website lists my boat at 5200 pounds. I just took it through a cat scale and it weighed 7100 pounds with trailer and full gas. The trailer weighs ~1685 according to the placard. That puts my boat at 5400 pounds (and I’m being conservative).

    I feel I know what GAWR constitutes (verified be research) and the max cargo weight placard is pretty self explanatory. There is NO way in heck that my boat, completely empty and void of gas) weighs 4315 pounds or less.

    Am I missing something ? What would you guys do?





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    I would email their tech support to clarify that. What diameter axles does it have on it?

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    Yeah something doesn’t make sense.

    Even a P275/55/20 has a load rating of 2403# each.

    I can’t imagine it’s axle limited. As most are between 3500#-4500# per axle.

    4100# makes no sense for a dual axle trailer.

    I would be calling metal craft for clarification.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HFarr View Post
    I would email their tech support to clarify that. What diameter axles does it have on it?

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    I'm not sure. I will call them tomorrow and ask though. This is crazy if the placards are correct. The way I normally trailer my boat, it weighs in at 7880 (verified by Cat Scale). Full gas...500 in lead...and just the basics. That's almost 2000 pounds over the GAWR. A buddy of mine weighed his empty with 15 gallons of gas and it rang in at 7100 pounds.
    Last edited by Guppydriver; 12-30-2021 at 06:47 PM.
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    Axles appear to be rated for 7000#, what does the tire sidewall say for load rating?


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    had I known you were getting a metalcrap trailer I would have told you to RUN FAR AWAY...
    I had that under my '12 22ve and that trailer was nothing but garbage.
    was a rustbucket when we sold the boat in '17. the spare was mounted under the boat between the frame rails and I don't think it had a single piece of PC left on it when we sold the boat.

    they are based in slc and if you go see them, you will walk away with the same perceptions I did about their quality control and overall operation.
    I will say tho that the owner was willing to help us fix the rust issues but we ended up selling the boat to the new owner knowing the trailer was $hit. go see him and get their opinion on it.
    sure you will be ok with the boat on it but watch for rust/peeling powdercoat/bad welds. that finish they use that they are SOOO proud of is pretty much garbage imo.
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    Looking at sticker on the left it looks like they used a single axle decal. That amount sounds about right for a single axle trailer. I think the trailer is fine but labeled incorrectly

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    What is the tongue weight? In calculating the GVWR you can subtract the tongue weight from the scale weight.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2in2out View Post
    What is the tongue weight? In calculating the GVWR you can subtract the tongue weight from the scale weight.


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    Are you sure though? I understand that transferring the weight to the tow vehicle drive axle will put less stress on the trailer, but by definition the GVWR is clear....

    The maximum a trailer is allowed to weigh including payload.... It doesn't account for hitch weight subtraction. I
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjb929rr View Post
    Looking at sticker on the left it looks like they used a single axle decal. That amount sounds about right for a single axle trailer. I think the trailer is fine but labeled incorrectly
    But the sticker has a GVWR and a GAWR for "each axle". Those numbers are different. Not disagreeing with you, just respectfully asking how that could be if it is indeed a single axle sticker?
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