2021 Supra SA Surf Settings, Lead Amount/Placement

[2in2out]

That is a clean wave indeed and what I am looking for. Just want to clean it up a bit. I was planning to add a 100 pounds of lead to bring me to 500 pounds. Was hoping not to add 950 pounds though as that is a ton.

I only went 950 because it’s usually just my wife and I. She barely weighs 2 bags worth of lead. And when I get out of the boat we lose 250+. If I had a regular crew of 4+, I’d run with 500.


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[Bri49er80]

Makes sense. We will have 4-5+ so 500 should be good. I will mess with the settings this week. If anyone finds good tweaks, would love to her it. Can’t wait to get that clean wave too! Thank you all.

[larry_arizona]

575# lead makes a big difference on the SA.

225# mid ship starboard, 100# mid ship port, 150# rear locker starboard, 100# rear locker port.

100/100/100 bags autowake off, driver, and spotter in rear seat center, wake surf 2 preset, goofy 9-9.5, -2.5 to -3.0, 10.9-11.2mph, wake plate at 15%, long fat wave.

Now, anyone know how to teach my kid to stop spinning and ride out a 360 LOL

https://youtube.com/shorts/XSvu8vfw-nU?feature=share


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[larry_arizona]

Screenshot of wave from above settings


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[HFarr]

That's a good solid spin. What board is he on? Is it a skim style? Any fins?

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[larry_arizona]

Phase 5 key skim (one of the matrix variants)
Small center fin.


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[repomannv]

I'm running a 2021 SA 450; All of Wake9's Supra Info on youtube is *gold*, start there.

My goofy side wave was much easier to get dialed in, so I would also start on that side it was absolutely clean, long and big from day one using stock settings and autowake, and got better with Wake9's recommendations (i.e. around 9 - 9.5 pitch, 3 to 4 degree's of roll, and we like the boat around 11.2mph). I have 1000lbs of lead but don't use all of it depending on how many people are on the boat. Sometimes its just two of us, so I bring all the lead. What I really struggled with was the regular side wave, I just couldn't get a consistent wave, and especially I couldn't get a clean wave. I could get a big wave depending on settings, but it was always dirty. I'd go with around 9 - 10 degrees of pitch, and about -1 degree of roll, as Wake9 suggested as a starting point, but it was dirty on my boat. I learned that not every boat is identical, you have to experiment and find what works on yours. It took me awhile to realize I needed more roll on my boat on the regular side... with about about negative 4 to 4.5 degrees of roll the regular wave got super clean! Lead really helps a lot, you can move it around and experiment to see what works, getting those ballast tanks full definitely gets a bigger wave. Once I get a wave I like, I turn off autowake and just lock everything in for that rider. Don't be afraid to experiment and take a lot of notes so you remember. Change one thing at a time, otherwise you won't know what change made a difference.

Something that I'm struggling with is speed... autowake doesn't seem to get my boat up to the right speed, I think I may have a calibration issue? If I set autowake at 11.2mph for instance, my boat will go 10.0 or something like that, if I bump up the autowake speed, say to 14, my boat my go up to 10.8 or so. My boat has no problem returning to dock at full speed so its not a prop issue, or systemic engine issue. Has anyone else experienced something like this with autowake? I'm going to call it into Supra, but thought I was mention it here to see if someone else has seen this problem.

[2in2out]

I'm running a 2021 SA 450; All of Wake9's Supra Info on youtube is *gold*, start there.

My goofy side wave was much easier to get dialed in, so I would also start on that side it was absolutely clean, long and big from day one using stock settings and autowake, and got better with Wake9's recommendations (i.e. around 9 - 9.5 pitch, 3 to 4 degree's of roll, and we like the boat around 11.2mph). I have 1000lbs of lead but don't use all of it depending on how many people are on the boat. Sometimes its just two of us, so I bring all the lead. What I really struggled with was the regular side wave, I just couldn't get a consistent wave, and especially I couldn't get a clean wave. I could get a big wave depending on settings, but it was always dirty. I'd go with around 9 - 10 degrees of pitch, and about -1 degree of roll, as Wake9 suggested as a starting point, but it was dirty on my boat. I learned that not every boat is identical, you have to experiment and find what works on yours. It took me awhile to realize I needed more roll on my boat on the regular side... with about about negative 4 to 4.5 degrees of roll the regular wave got super clean! Lead really helps a lot, you can move it around and experiment to see what works, getting those ballast tanks full definitely gets a bigger wave. Once I get a wave I like, I turn off autowake and just lock everything in for that rider. Don't be afraid to experiment and take a lot of notes so you remember. Change one thing at a time, otherwise you won't know what change made a difference.

Something that I'm struggling with is speed... autowake doesn't seem to get my boat up to the right speed, I think I may have a calibration issue? If I set autowake at 11.2mph for instance, my boat will go 10.0 or something like that, if I bump up the autowake speed, say to 14, my boat my go up to 10.8 or so. My boat has no problem returning to dock at full speed so its not a prop issue, or systemic engine issue. Has anyone else experienced something like this with autowake? I'm going to call it into Supra, but thought I was mention it here to see if someone else has seen this problem.

Someone else had mentioned a possible fault with the GPS puck.

Our SA fluctuated going upwind, but was steady downwind.


Currently boatless

[repomannv]

Someone else had mentioned a possible fault with the GPS puck.

Our SA fluctuated going upwind, but was steady downwind.


Currently boatless

I'm going to gather more details on my next outing, but I think that was true, upwind it struggled to maintain correct speed, downwind not at all. I also think I didn't have any issues at all with accurate speed control prior to putting a bunch of lead mid-ship and in the stern of the boat. I think I'm running the 16x13.9 prop given its a 2021 model, I'll check that as well. I saw a note about unplugging the gps puck and seeing if that changes anything, that could be worth a try to gather more info. I'm always learning, this forum is very helpful, thank you all.

[KnoxMojo]

I'm going to gather more details on my next outing, but I think that was true, upwind it struggled to maintain correct speed, downwind not at all. I also think I didn't have any issues at all with accurate speed control prior to putting a bunch of lead mid-ship and in the stern of the boat. I think I'm running the 16x13.9 prop given its a 2021 model, I'll check that as well. I saw a note about unplugging the gps puck and seeing if that changes anything, that could be worth a try to gather more info. I'm always learning, this forum is very helpful, thank you all.

Are you boating on a body of water with current? High winds can also slow you down. Remember, GPS is speed over land, not water. It isn't going to be 100 percent accurate if in current and wind.