2022 Moomba Prices

[HFarr]

For me personally, there is no big love for kia. My daughter who just graduated highschool wanted it. Sold a fantastic 2014 4 door jeep Wrangler she was driving. All I can say is "girls". I will admit that the Telluride is surprisingly nice. And pretty quick. It has a lot of features that my wife's Platinum Expedition Max had and more. The Telluride is a $50k plus vehicle though. Plus I think Kia shipped a buttload of those things to the States before all the shutdowns started, so they are more available when many other brands are not. The Seltos she got is a sporty little suv I have to admit. I do like the all wheel drive feature, and turbo is pretty quick for a little motor. But damn, its a kia! Do have to commend them on having a 10 yr/100,000 mile warranty though!

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[sandm]

Anyone shopped lumber in the last few weeks¿
$8 here at the box stores for a 2x4x8. Used to be $2.50.
We just removed a planter bed to build a 6x10 shed but lumber costs went from $500 to $1100 in 3 months.......
Crazy.

[larry_arizona]

Anyone shopped lumber in the last few weeks¿
$8 here at the box stores for a 2x4x8. Used to be $2.50.
We just removed a planter bed to build a 6x10 shed but lumber costs went from $500 to $1100 in 3 months.......
Crazy.

Sheet of osb near $50,last time I bought them $6


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[Holdmybeer]

Sheet of osb near $50,last time I bought them $6


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I did some concrete work around my house this week. $150/yd for exterior was $115/ 2yrs ago. The lumber for the forms was $23ea - 2x6x12.

Getting out of hand in a hurry.

[SONIC]

It's nuts.
Lumber futures are trending downward though so hopefully it will back off a bit soon. I don't see it going back to pre-pandemic levels though, doesn't make sense from a business standpoint for the sawmills now that they know everyone is going to keep buying it even at absurd prices.

47 bucks for a sheet of OSB should be illegal.

[Riddler]

Bryan,

I have been meaning to reach out on Facebook as I have seen your post there so here goes.

As I know you are in Canada (so am I) there is a few things to consider here.
- First is that shopping around is not likely an option as we have limited dealers covering large territories so people suggesting to shop around will likely only give you the option to go to another manufacturer and even then your local dealer probably sells another brand as well so likely limited choices and in my shopping around other brands (ATX and AXIS) there were no deals to be had but you certainly should shop around a bit it is a big purchase.
- Next as you can see in HFarr's quote/invoice yes adding for freight, PDI etc. are standard and he is paying almost $2k US and is located within 4 hours of the plant so shipping cross boarder to Canada is not cheap (distance, customs etc.) at all plus PDI etc. on top.
- As for your price being quoted I purchased my boat on a the same type of deal (2021 for 2020 pricing) and it does have a time limit and your dealer will have a limited number of build spots available to them as well. After the time limit expires they will jack the price up it will happen this year and waiting to get a better price in this market is not really an option unless you are prepared to wait a year or multiple years (who knows) and with price increases year over year you are not really going to spend less if you wait even if the discount goes up. On top of this you have the exchange rate to contend with and that is a gamble on what it will do but if our dollar tanks back down to 60 cents then you eat any and all savings albeit make sure you clarify as you are often given the option of locking in at todays rate or paying the rate at time of crossing the boarder (when the dealer pays for the boat)
- As for MSRP if you are using the current builder it is still showing 21 prices, if you are going off your dealers quote it should be on 21 prices so the discount will really be on the bill of sale on the boat when they show the 22 prices so to compare to current MSRP is not really accurate. You are essentially locking in at the current full MSRP and saving the inflated price point when they roll over to 22's and you can read on here with people who have not received their boats yet and are being told they are going to pay for the 22 upcharge which I think is nuts if you have a deposit down but I digress.
- As for what you are being quoted after shopping around for a few years and knowing what I paid and what the market is currently I do not think you are being screwed, is it the boat show deals for in stock inventory that we saw a couple years ago ... no it is not but is it a fair price and better value than the used market right now (saw a 18 mondo in Kelowna going for $110k cad insanity!!!!)

I would be happy to discuss anything in more detail if you want to DM me feel free. This is a big purchase but times are not what they used to be and who knows when they will go back to normal and as I said by that time the normal year over year price increases will probably erode the deal if you compare todays deal to the future price let alone what the dollar is doing.

Bryan,

Chuds and I bought from the same dealer, just different locations, and I totally agree with his comments.

I did a lot of research when putting my deal together, even going as far to reach out to some industry contact to find out what shipping should cost from Tennessee to Alberta.

I also used seedealercost.com as a baseline to try to figure out what the boat should "cost" the dealer in USD, and then built the price up to include currency exchange, customs, shipping, PDI and of course margin, and ultimately got a number that was only a few thousand off the dealer asking price, and we negotiated from there.

I did also place a deposit in Sept 2020, when they were offering the highest discounts for a 2021 order (multiple dealers told me this)

[larry_arizona]

I honestly don’t know how I would navigate the 2022 buying season. Just thankful I was able to buy a 2021 with normal discount pricing.


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[korey]

I honestly don’t know how I would navigate the 2022 buying season. Just thankful I was able to buy a 2021 with normal discount pricing.


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I bought my '18 with full intention buying a truck the next year ('19). Then life happened and I didn't. Then 2020 Happened and I didn't. Now '21 happened, and I'm not.

As far as materials go, I don't buy any lumber, but I'm highly sensitive to steel prices (we build custom machines, shameless plug: http://www.Kinemetrix.com ) . I had a project that got put on ice in early '20 just come back to life. I re-quoted and had to hit my customer for about 30% more. Steel shot up 70% in 2020, and has continued another 11% in the last 2 months. Getting parts and sub-systems (robots, actuators, controls) out of Europe and Asia is still a crapshoot. It's a crazy world to be doing business in right now!

[2in2out]

I did some concrete work around my house this week. $150/yd for exterior was $115/ 2yrs ago. The lumber for the forms was $23ea - 2x6x12.

Getting out of hand in a hurry.

The guys that just poured my porch had to pay $70 for 3/4” finish grade plywood sheet because that was the only plywood between 11 stores and 5 lumber yards which wasn’t purchased. 2x6x12 $28 a stick. Mud was $170/yd.

Multi-million dollar residential projects are months behind because of building supply shortages and house prices and rent are through the roof. My little 1200sf house just hit $600k. I’m delayed 3 mo. Because of paint shortages on getting the house painted.

I’m thinking that the better rate of return would be to buy lotto tickets rather than to invest in my house right now.


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[HFarr]

I would ask to keep those form boards!

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