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[rdlangston13]

Natural gas or propane!
They actually run better on propane

The smaller units are super easily converted back and forth
Larger units do require a few tools and patience

Commercial units can be dual fuel

Also most generators only burn around gallon an hour so a 500 gallon propane tank can last around 2 weeks if need be

So is it possible to get it installed for NG but connect it to a portable propane tank in an emergency if we lose gas service?

[larry_arizona]

Glad things are warming up TEXAS!!!


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[2in2out]

So is it possible to get it installed for NG but connect it to a portable propane tank in an emergency if we lose gas service?

I would advise against NG hook-up. While NG hook-up is possible, seismic events and regulator icing can cause failure. The conversion from propane to gasoline is much easier, so if your propane regulator ices up, you can switch to propane. Firman makes dual fuel generators that have sine wave inverters, can run in parallel, and some models have remote start.

https://www.firmanpowerequipment.com/shop/wh03042/

Word of warning on generators. Make sure you have a transfer switch and like Larry said, shut off the main, otherwise you’ll backfeed the local lines creating hazards for those retiring power.

Another lesson learned when I was on a hurricane deployment was to secure your generators. A family woke to find they had no power even though they heard the generator running outside. Someone had replaced the generator with an idling lawn mower and stole their generator. The depths of depravity of people during extremes has no bounds.

[MJHSupra]

A family woke to find they had no power even though they heard the generator running outside. Someone had replaced the generator with an idling lawn mower and stole their generator. The depths of depravity of people during extremes has no bounds.

WTF is wrong with people? Yikes


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[sandm]

WTF is wrong with people? Yikes

I agree but then you see stories like this one and it restores some faith in our race.....

In Houston, Texas, where residents continued to be pummeled by a winter storm for which the state's electric grid seemed largely unprepared, there is an example of how a retailer can play a real role in community-building.

Fox News reports on how Jim McIngvale, the owner of Gallery Furniture who is known as "Mattress Mack," has opened his furniture showroom to people in need, offering them shelter and allowing them to sleep on the couches and beds on display in the facility.

"We’ll get through this," McIngvale says. "We’re here to benefit the community that’s what we’ve always done and we have a responsibility for the well-being of the community, we’re trying to live up to that." Mcingvale says "that he expects 100 or so more to come to his business over the next couple of days, with many already there enjoying free food, a reprieve from the cold, and a place to get ready before heading off to work."

[rdlangston13]

I would advise against NG hook-up. While NG hook-up is possible, seismic events and regulator icing can cause failure. The conversion from propane to gasoline is much easier, so if your propane regulator ices up, you can switch to propane. Firman makes dual fuel generators that have sine wave inverters, can run in parallel, and some models have remote start.

https://www.firmanpowerequipment.com/shop/wh03042/

Word of warning on generators. Make sure you have a transfer switch and like Larry said, shut off the main, otherwise you’ll backfeed the local lines creating hazards for those retiring power.

Another lesson learned when I was on a hurricane deployment was to secure your generators. A family woke to find they had no power even though they heard the generator running outside. Someone had replaced the generator with an idling lawn mower and stole their generator. The depths of depravity of people during extremes has no bounds.

Yeah but if I do the propane route than I have to have a giant ass propane tank somewhere on my property which is another large cost. Seems like if it’s not hard to convert to from NG to propane I’d rather have it rigged up on NG and then have small bottles of propane I could use in an emergency if the gas is shut off. We don’t live in a seismically active area so that’s not a huge concern. It would primarily be run for hurricanes and if this ever happened again.

I agree but then you see stories like this one and it restores some faith in our race.....

In Houston, Texas, where residents continued to be pummeled by a winter storm for which the state's electric grid seemed largely unprepared, there is an example of how a retailer can play a real role in community-building.

Fox News reports on how Jim McIngvale, the owner of Gallery Furniture who is known as "Mattress Mack," has opened his furniture showroom to people in need, offering them shelter and allowing them to sleep on the couches and beds on display in the facility.

"We’ll get through this," McIngvale says. "We’re here to benefit the community that’s what we’ve always done and we have a responsibility for the well-being of the community, we’re trying to live up to that." Mcingvale says "that he expects 100 or so more to come to his business over the next couple of days, with many already there enjoying free food, a reprieve from the cold, and a place to get ready before heading off to work."

Mattress Mack is a stud. He did the same think during Harvey. Sent his delivery trucks out to rescue people and house them on display furniture in his store and even pulled née mattress down from warehouse so people had a place to sleep. Dude it a class act. After Harvey I vowed to only by my furniture from gallery. I had already bought my sofas and bedroom set from there.


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[2in2out]

Yeah but if I do the propane route than I have to have a giant ass propane tank somewhere on my property which is another large cost. Seems like if it’s not hard to convert to from NG to propane I’d rather have it rigged up on NG and then have small bottles of propane I could use in an emergency if the gas is shut off. We don’t live in a seismically active area so that’s not a huge concern. It would primarily be run for hurricanes and if this ever happened again.

You can get a good day of run time out of a 7 gal propane cylinder, and switching from gas to propane and back is merely a toggle switch. Switching from NG to propane means changing jets in the mixing valve and orifice size in the throttle body. Far more work. Propane and gasoline (once atomized) have similar LEL, UEL, flash points, and air fuel mixtures for ICE engines. Plus, access to propane bottles is easy. It’s a cheap alternative to running a gas line for the 1-2 weeks you might have to use it every year. Additionally, you can use them for special events. A parallel set of 3k portables offers more load capacity and versatility than a 5k Genset.

[rdlangston13]

You can get a good day of run time out of a 7 gal propane cylinder, and switching from gas to propane and back is merely a toggle switch. Switching from NG to propane means changing jets in the mixing valve and orifice size in the throttle body. Far more work. Propane and gasoline (once atomized) have similar LEL, UEL, flash points, and air fuel mixtures for ICE engines. Plus, access to propane bottles is easy. It’s a cheap alternative to running a gas line for the 1-2 weeks you might have to use it every year. Additionally, you can use them for special events. A parallel set of 3k portables offers more load capacity and versatility than a 5k Genset.

My main thing is I am out of town half the year and on top of that it seems I miss every major natural disaster. I want the easiest thing for my wife which seems to be a standby 16kw generator on NG. The less she has to do the better, that’s the number 1 reason I want to go that route instead of a portable gas generator. It seems like if you just have a separate throttle bottle already with the correct jets than it should be straight forward to just change the whole throttle body in the event our NG would go down. My brother or father in would be able to knock that out in an emergency without me being home.


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[2in2out]

Another option is to get a 2021 F-150.

https://apple.news/AcDHCqMVERKC6OA9wbeBV8w

[rdlangston13]

Another option is to get a 2021 F-150.

https://apple.news/AcDHCqMVERKC6OA9wbeBV8w

Yeah that’s the first thing I thought of when they released the power boost. Looks like some people are putting it to good use right now.


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