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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2in2out View Post
    My next boat trailer will have EOH brakes. I’ve had hell putting backing my boat into my driveway and at one certain ramp because they are both uphill, and the surge brakes engage. I have a lockout tool, but it only stays on about half the time. I’d much rather have EOH with the grades I pull. Similar to what Sandm describes.
    Check your truck wiring as when you go in reverse the surge brakes should lock themselves out. I have no issue backing my SA up any hill when it's hooked to the truck.
    When I move it with the forklift however it's impossible to go uphill without the lockout tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SONIC View Post
    Check your truck wiring as when you go in reverse the surge brakes should lock themselves out. I have no issue backing my SA up any hill when it's hooked to the truck.
    When I move it with the forklift however it's impossible to go uphill without the lockout tool.
    I haven’t experienced it with the boatmate trailer yet, but the VM trailer I had with the Sanger, if you got into certain positions the brakes would lock out. I can’t fit the Supra in my driveway, so I haven’t even given it a go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdlangston13 View Post
    Coming from someone who pulls with an expedition and has done the drive from Missouri to Texas and back before I think you will be fine. Granted my mojo is not has heavy as a makai, we are at 6940 lbs with 560 lb tongue weight loaded for the lake and were more than that on out way to missouri due to all the luggage for the trip being in the boat. We also had 6 people in the expedition. Main thing is just watch your speed and give yourself plenty of space for stopping. You may want to look into sumo springs for the expedition to help with the load. And like it has been mentioned, if you want a WDH then they are available for pole tongue trailers.

    In regards to air bags, the weight transferred back to the front axle via air bags i would think it negligible. You're still using the rear axle a fulcrum for all the weight, air bags do not change that like a WDH does.

    I have a 2018 F150 that has the same power train as your expedition so one thing I do recommend is locking out 9th and 10th gear while towing. Maybe 8th too depending on hills and such.
    Thanks for the advice. When you engage the tow function on the truck does it lock out the higher gears?
    So far the heaviest load I have pulled with this new truck is my 67 mustang. Did pull a 32ft travel trailer with the old truck with the 5.4 and only 5 gears you could defiantly tell it was back there.

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    Looks like a solid option


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    Go big or go home:

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1967-mustang View Post
    Thanks for the advice. When you engage the tow function on the truck does it lock out the higher gears?
    So far the heaviest load I have pulled with this new truck is my 67 mustang. Did pull a 32ft travel trailer with the old truck with the 5.4 and only 5 gears you could defiantly tell it was back there.
    No you have to do it manually. when youre in drive press the - on the shifter and the all 1 though 10 should show up on the cluster, pressing the - again will make the 10 disappear, and so on. Main problem is after you put it in park you have to redo it.
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    I've always been impressed with SC showing weights of the boat and trailer in their advertising. I'm not sure if any other company does. However, taking boat weights from Tige and MB as well as trailer weights from Boatmate, in my experience the numbers are always way low. On paper, my boat weighs 6000 and the trailer is 1400. However, on the scales together (loaded for a day at the lake) the total weight is 8540. No lead. Once cooler full of ice and drinks. Surfboards and jackets. Medium box anchor. That's it. Maybe 200 in extras. So where is the extra weight coming from that Tige or Boatmate forgot to mention? Just fuel?

    Has anyone found SC to have more accurate numbers?

    My point is to not rely on advertising numbers when you decide if your rig call pull/stop your new boat. If you haven't scaled your boat/trailer you should.

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    The boat weight advertised would be the dry weight of the base model so yes all the gear you add, if you added any options beyond stock would add to the weight and of course fluids (tranny, oil, coolant etc.) and yes fuel is a large portion of the added weight.
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    maybe tige never changed their weighting practices. back in the day they advertised a boat weight as just that. the hull, engine and interior.
    since tower was an "option", albeit one that was always checked, boat weight was sans tower. I would bet the alpha z is easily 500lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by larry_arizona View Post


    Looks like a solid option


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    Interesting, I did not know you can use a WDH on one of these trailers with a tongue. Good to know. Never seen one of those "adapters". Learn something new every. day.
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