2018 Moomba max Vs 2018 Centurion Ri237

[2in2out]

If this is for a business, I would go with the vessel with the lowest overhead costs. Having 6 months of operating reserves is crucial. I know you say it’s just a couple hundred a month difference, but so is stability and regret. And, you are $50k closer to a second boat.

[larry_arizona]

They can indeed be loud, but $50 or so in cheap amazon peel and stick sound deadening mat and an hour or so install time remedies the loudness pretty well. I did it to my Mojo and the SA. The transmission hatch area and wall behind the seat to the engine bay, helps so much.

Sounds like a good idea for any boat......added ballast is a bonus, that mat is heavy.

Trans hatch, back seat wall and even the engine divider walls. I bet that add 75# in mat weight


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[Isaguel]

I surfed a ri237 3 months ago. One of the best waves i have surfed. If money was not a question i would take it over max but id just order an sa at 130k..

I like the idea, I just don't think you can get an SA for 130k new anymore. You're thinking pre-Covid pricing.

But, OP's question needs context. What business, is it rental or are u using it to entertain potential clients?. Also potential revenue stream matters. Are we talking about making 3- 4 figures or 5-6 figures/client. That speaks to the level of clientele and hence the type of boat you need.
If renting, just getting the cheapest, if entertaining potential heavy hitter investors, then you need to dress to impress!

[larry_arizona]

You can still buy new SA in the $130’s depending on options


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[2in2out]

There are several individuals who give wake and surf lessons here in the Tahoe area. Most are running A22’s, with their clientele being out of area tourists who can afford a week rental on the lake, plus 4 hrs of lessons at $200/head.

Some use higher end boats, but are offsetting their own boat costs by doing lessons as they are residents, and it’s just what they do (ski/board all winter, surf and wake all summer). They rent their houses out when they go on vacation, and a couple of times a month they make a years worth of boat payments. I’m jealous to some extent.

If you look at any boat rental company, they almost always buy a prior depreciated asset, unless they are tied to a dealership and get dealer pricing and write-off’s.

The complexity of the high end boats creates issues in that renters don’t have the bandwidth to absorb how to properly set up the boat, and can damage systems. They want to turn key and go. The A22 is simple enough to get a wave. Fill it full and throttle forward. The ri, like the upper end Moombas, Supra’s, bu’s, etc, has nuance to its set-up, and to understand that nuance takes time, patience, and understanding which are not the characteristics of the rental and weekender experience warrior.

[sandm]

If you look at any boat rental company, they almost always buy a prior depreciated asset, unless they are tied to a dealership and get dealer pricing and write-off’s.

as a business model, I think you will find most buy new, depreciate over a few years and sell off once age/hours deem so. they will have an "in" with a dealer for new purchases every few years that may or may not get a discount above what you and I get.
buying a used or depreciated any toy are buying someone's issues and most rental companies want a current model for repairs/parts and needs to be reliable for the client. there's a reason avis/hertz/enterprise don't buy used cars for their fleets and sell once they hit the magic mileage/age. there are some I'm sure that use used equipment but the 3 that I have had experience with all bought new products and use until depreciated.

I do agree that most rental companies are going to buy the basic stripped versions for the complexities of setting them up you mention.

[j.mo]

There are several individuals who give wake and surf lessons here in the Tahoe area. Most are running A22’s, with their clientele being out of area tourists who can afford a week rental on the lake, plus 4 hrs of lessons at $200/head.

Some use higher end boats, but are offsetting their own boat costs by doing lessons as they are residents, and it’s just what they do (ski/board all winter, surf and wake all summer). They rent their houses out when they go on vacation, and a couple of times a month they make a years worth of boat payments. I’m jealous to some extent.

If you look at any boat rental company, they almost always buy a prior depreciated asset, unless they are tied to a dealership and get dealer pricing and write-off’s.

The complexity of the high end boats creates issues in that renters don’t have the bandwidth to absorb how to properly set up the boat, and can damage systems. They want to turn key and go. The A22 is simple enough to get a wave. Fill it full and throttle forward. The ri, like the upper end Moombas, Supra’s, bu’s, etc, has nuance to its set-up, and to understand that nuance takes time, patience, and understanding which are not the characteristics of the rental and weekender experience warrior.

You live in Tahoe?
I was just up there yesterday lol.


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[larry_arizona]

Now that I think of it, $130k for a 3 year old Ri237 sounds high unless it has a supercharged engine


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[Chuds]

Larry OP is from Canada and the $130k would be in Canadian funds so not a bad price for what we pay for boats up here.

[larry_arizona]

Larry OP is from Canada and the $130k would be in Canadian funds so not a bad price for what we pay for boats up here.

Thank you sir, I missed that


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