2021 Max Vs 2019 S238

[haknslash]

Not sure if it’s the same motor as the Axis A22 I demoed once but it had a GM engine and was woefully underpowered if you had ballast full, wedge and surf gate deployed. Raptor would run circles around that thing.

[larry_arizona]

If OP said 450hp then it’s the H6DI.

450hp 465tq is legit.

Not a fan of DI and personally would prefer an iron block in a wakeboat.


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[Josh828]

I think they come with the 409 hp PCM motor but I could be wrong. It’s been a while since I looked at them.

That is the standard engine, this one does have the engine upgrade to the 450

[haknslash]

Gotcha. I’m not familiar with all the GM offerings.

[sandm]

supreme builds a great boat and since being bought by correct craft(nautique) their fit and finish along with centurion has come a long way.
the 238 hull has been around for a minute and is not their latest and greatest hull. for that you need the zs series.
I wouldn't let the gm engine push you away either. seems these boats go back and forth between ford and gm every dozen years and both make good engines. there are def. pros and cons to each and for every "I hate gm" posts there's another "I hate raptor" posts on another forum. props can make a big difference in engine performance as well.

that said if it was my monies, it would be a no brainer putting a deposit on a new build-get what you want-no hours-newer hull design moomba over a used 238. there are enough pics from hack of how the max surfs. the 238 is a beast of a boat and will hold a party of people but just remember, the more you invite, the less time you get to spend surfing
that you mention 2 moomba dealers locally would be the icing on the cake. local dealers are a nice to have, not need to have but if given your choices, it would seal the deal for us.
I wouldn't let a big stereo be the deal breaker. you can always add stereo. you can't add warranty, newer hull shapes, different tech, etc......

[haknslash]

Good point bringing up the warranty. 7 years on the Indmar powertrain vs 5 on the PCM. As you also pointed out having two Moomba dealers close-by helps make the decision easier as well.

[Josh828]

Thanks guys, I mean that's what I've been thinking just needed to hear it one more time.
Now I already have the dealer looking at a new Mojo for me..

$78k for the max Limited options. No audio.
$84K for the mojo with slightly more options but still no Audio and no 3.0 surf

[brad460]

Thanks guys, I mean that's what I've been thinking just needed to hear it one more time.
Now I already have the dealer looking at a new Mojo for me..

$78k for the max Limited options. No audio.
$84K for the mojo with slightly more options but still no Audio and no 3.0 surf

Are these negotiated prices? Or spec’d out prices plus freight/setup?

You should be able to get a 7 or 8+ % discount...

[jason1973]

The raptor should get the 7 year warranty. That matters. How deep are the lakes you go to? i believe Supreme has much more draft than the moomba lineup. Just something to think about. I say go with the dealer you trust. That is one of the biggest decisions.

[j.mo]

I am not brand biased to either but I’ll throw my 2 cents in for what it’s worth.

The supreme like others have said, again is going to be a centurion-esque deep v hull. Which is nice.
The S238 is also a larger boat, which IMO if you are concerned about resale is a plus. Not to mention your enjoyment with space.
The LS IMO is preferred. A more reliable power plant than the DOHC raptor from Ford. Ls are very simple, great engines.

The Moomba side- my opinion. Best brand in the “budget” space. They get more tech, better finishes, killer interiors by comparison to the rest of the budget space.
And the Supra line really trickles down into them.

The max is a pretty small boat. My vote would be to work some OT or eat some top ramen for a bit and hop into a mojo. Because that is more comparable to the 238 IMO.

However, my disclaimer is, I’m a if I’m going to do/spend X, I might as well do/spend Y and go for it. If you’re already there. Do it right.

I’ve had two 21ft boats. Wouldn’t do it again. Wouldn’t go less than 23, I now have a 24.

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