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    Quote Originally Posted by sandm View Post
    that's a rhetorical questions imo. there's way too much mis-information and mis-diagnosis out there to really establish a clear picture of hospitalizations and deaths related to this and lots more that get sick, get better and never get tested so did they have covid or flu? or pneumonia? or bronchitis?
    Exactly, the data is largely BS and no way the best scientists in the world could use this crap data to make the right decisions.

    By the way, unless you are wearing N95/KN95’s you are stopping a thing.

    Most wear it for the perception, half wear junk masks or barely wear it at all.

    Than the other half fiddle touch or adjust their masks which cross contaminates and fails the whole purpose.

    Good luck people.


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    Can I just ask who looked at a fucking bat and said....yeah, I wanna eat that

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    Quote Originally Posted by RC_Hinojosa View Post
    Can I just ask who looked at a fucking bat and said....yeah, I wanna eat that

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    Apparently you have never been to China lol.

    I have nightmares still about the lazy Susan dinners that was like an endless episode of FEAR FACTOR!!!


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    Should we test Andrew Zimmern for antibodies?

    That dude eats all kinds of nasty shit and he's still ticking

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    My theories about the origins of SARS/CoV-2. We know that only two species carried this up until sept 2019. Asian bats and pangolins are the only species to carry the variant that was identified at the start of pandalerium. Even though pangolin trade does happen, it’s low probability of species jump, as pangolin is dried and cured to increase male virility or whatever.

    IMHO I think a cat, ate a bat, then covid made the species jump between cat and human. Where this occurred? Most likely not the Wuhan wet market, as noted by RNA analysis. It was closer to the Chinese coast.

    Why do I think this? My cats (x3 of them) got sick with upper respiratory symptoms within days of me getting sick with covid. It is proven cats can become infected with the same virus we can. 2 tigers in New York zoo, 7 other feline species contracted covid in March /April during the spike in New York. Anecdotal, yes. Suspect, yes. I think the household pet transmission vehicle is highly probable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by larry_arizona View Post
    Curious......are “They” counting seasonal flu cases separately from covid or counting both of them as Covid?


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    I have not researched this to make sure it is true other than reading an article about it. Australia just got done with their winter season and there was not 1 reported case of influenza. The hospitals are incentivized to report cases as covid vs anything else so why would they not mark covid and get paid 3x-8x as much. Especially when your revenue is down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htfit View Post
    I have not researched this to make sure it is true other than reading an article about it. Australia just got done with their winter season and there was not 1 reported case of influenza. The hospitals are incentivized to report cases as covid vs anything else so why would they not mark covid and get paid 3x-8x as much. Especially when your revenue is down.

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    For the record, as of yesterday, Michigan has zero recorded cases of seasonal flu so far this year.


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    Rapid influenza tests are used at hospitals and other healthcare centers to rule out flu from other causes. Because the symptoms are so similar, any person with flu-like symptoms gets a rapid influenza test. Covid numbers are based on a positive test, with other causes ruled-out. Only severe flu cases are hospitalized and take much longer to develop the pneumonia’s and septicemia’s that cause death.

    Every death is caused by cardiac arrest. What preceded the cardiac arrest is the primary factor for cause of death. Yes, a patient may have terminal cancer, but until they got covid, they were living with the cancer. With a covid diagnosis you have an end insult leading to cardiac arrest. It could be from alveolar collapse and an inability to oxygenate. It could be an inflammation cascade that causes massive clotting that causes cardiac arrest. Doctors and Medical examiners take this stuff seriously in determining cause.

    In my county, the medical examiner must investigate every out-of-hospital death. In hospital deaths the attending physician at time of death considers cause and it is reviewed by the ME.

    Emergency funding is a numbers game. States and local jurisdictions determine dissemination of funding. Preemptive funding is determined by hospital type, bed count, patient census current and projected, and specialty. Surge funding goes towards the places that are experiencing high infection rates. Funding based on deaths, is fruitless, because funding dead people produces no result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2in2out View Post
    Rapid influenza tests are used at hospitals and other healthcare centers to rule out flu from other causes. Because the symptoms are so similar, any person with flu-like symptoms gets a rapid influenza test. Covid numbers are based on a positive test, with other causes ruled-out. Only severe flu cases are hospitalized and take much longer to develop the pneumonia’s and septicemia’s that cause death.

    Every death is caused by cardiac arrest. What preceded the cardiac arrest is the primary factor for cause of death. Yes, a patient may have terminal cancer, but until they got covid, they were living with the cancer. With a covid diagnosis you have an end insult leading to cardiac arrest. It could be from alveolar collapse and an inability to oxygenate. It could be an inflammation cascade that causes massive clotting that causes cardiac arrest. Doctors and Medical examiners take this stuff seriously in determining cause.

    In my county, the medical examiner must investigate every out-of-hospital death. In hospital deaths the attending physician at time of death considers cause and it is reviewed by the ME.

    Emergency funding is a numbers game. States and local jurisdictions determine dissemination of funding. Preemptive funding is determined by hospital type, bed count, patient census current and projected, and specialty. Surge funding goes towards the places that are experiencing high infection rates. Funding based on deaths, is fruitless, because funding dead people produces no result.
    How accurate do you feel the data is on Covid-19?


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