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Thread: Raptor 400 VS 450
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09-30-2020, 10:45 AM #51
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09-30-2020, 10:50 AM #52Senior Member
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09-30-2020, 11:13 AM #53Senior Member
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So the 2019 and 2020 have different transmission ratios? That changes everything and I'll concede. I thought they were both 1.7x. No doubt the 2020 is a 1.7 which would confirm the transmission being more important than motor in this boat. I was able to make a 400 with a 1.7 trans perform as good or better than a 450 with a 1.5 transmission. The differences in the ballast placement should have only favored the 450. That didn't matter.
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09-30-2020, 11:22 AM #54
Raptor 400 VS 450
Skiers choice changed from 1.5 to 1.76 mid year 2019 on the 450’s only.
2020 the 400 and 450’s got the 1.76.
The 550 stayed 1.5 as it doesn’t need the ratio.
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09-30-2020, 11:25 AM #55Senior Member
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Raptor 400 VS 450
Also, there were 2 ballast configurations in available in those boats—3200 or 4000. You would need to know what you had in this case also.
There’s no doubt the trans is vital, and that a 400 with the new trans is a good setup. But if all else is equal, the 450 would do better.
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09-30-2020, 11:33 AM #56
I believe the mid year on the 450s was only on the Supra side of things. I believe MY 2019 Moombas with the 450 all had the 1.76. My spray date was in Feb of 2019 and my 450 has the 1.76 and I know Dakota4ce's 450 had the 1.76 as well and his was built in 2018. TBH for me one of the big deciding factors in going with the 450 in my 2019 was getting the 1.76 transmission. To me that was worth the $ alone the extra HP and Torque was just lagniappe.
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Raptor 450 w/ 1.76 Trans
WakeMakers 1350s in the rear & 1K in Lead
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09-30-2020, 11:38 AM #57
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09-30-2020, 12:00 PM #58Senior Member
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09-30-2020, 12:03 PM #59Senior Member
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As I recall, the Makai was rolled out by itself as a 450/1.76 combo, whereas other models, both Supra and Moomba, were phased in as referenced earlier regardless of 450 motor.
In other words, a 2019 Max with a 450 could be a 1.5 or a 1.76 depending when it was built.
Clear as MUD.
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09-30-2020, 12:44 PM #60