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  1. #21
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    The alternative to more weight is a faster board.

    You don't mention what board you have - I bought a job lot from a company that was closing down, some I can cruise on, some are so fast that I get cramp from staying on my back foot all the time, and some I would never be able to drop the rope on.

    Generally, large flat skim style boards with sharp rails and minimal fins will be much faster than similar smaller board of surf style boards with more rocker and rounded edges.

    In the first video I posted I am on a skim style board, in the second a surf style, the surf style would have been very hard work on the first wave it it would have even worked at all.

    So what size and style of board are you using, how many and how large are the fins ?

    From there, there are some small tweaks in foot position that make all the difference between 'almost there' and cruising all day.

    If you have any video, post it, it will be obvious to anyone on the forum if your board is too small, your feet in the wrong position or your weight too far back

    Duane.

  2. #22
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    I was able to fit 200 lbs of lead in each rear locker under the bags on my Sanger, and 200 under the filler cushion in the bow. I left the bow weight, and shifted the lead bags to under the seats, which allowed me to move them around easier. Usually ran about 70% starboard 900 bag, 100% port 900 bag, 600 bag in ski locker, 200 lead and anchor in bow, 200 evenly distributed midship, double suck gates. 700lbs crew and 500 misc. weight center to port. Port tab 0, starboard tab 40. Speed 10.6-10.8.

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  3. #23
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    The title of this thread still cracks me up

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  4. #24
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    Good call about the boards, I didnt think about that. We are currently riding these.

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    One is a 4'6 and the other is a 5'4. I typically ride the longer one because Im in the 240lb area but my daughter rides both and cant go ropeless. Im not sure how to post a video but here is one of her and her foot placement.

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  5. #25
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    Great, your daughters board has enough lift for her size - there is air under it however her feet are way off.

    First thing she needs to move her toes closer to the wave (toe side) of the board, this helps the board grip the wave and turn lift into forward movement.

    Second she needs to bring her front foot further towards the front of the pad.

    Third if she holds here back arm out over the wave, this will put even more pressure over her toes converting more wave energy into forward momentum.

    Finally if she puts her other arm pointing towards the boat that will also help.

    Good news is between your current wave and the board she is on, there is plenty fo lift for her to go rope less.

    Three small changes that make a massive difference and will almost certainly get her dropping the rope next time out.

    Duane.

  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Branden967 View Post
    Good call about the boards, I didnt think about that. We are currently riding these.

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    One is a 4'6 and the other is a 5'4. I typically ride the longer one because Im in the 240lb area but my daughter rides both and cant go ropeless. Im not sure how to post a video but here is one of her and her foot placement.

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    I'm in the 260lb range. I found the Connelly Voodoo 5'1 was really good at surfing a wave like that.

    https://www.evo.com/wakesurf-boards/...RoCFdMQAvD_BwE

    I've had two hyperlite boards. A 2018 H/L Shim 5.3 and an older H/L that I don't have the name for. Both sucked. I use a H/L landlock 5.9 for my beginner and bigger guy than me board. You can try my Voodoo, and I can help you get your ballast right. I'm just down the hill.

    Get a suck gate and some weight and you'll greatly improve that wave.
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    I will give another vote for Connelly

    My fastest board is the Connelly Bentley in the largest size they offer.

    Looking at the specs its is slightly wider and has less rocker than the Voodoo so should offer more lift to a larger rider and the flatter rocker will create less drag giving you the best platform for dropping the rope.

    I know the voodoo is a fraction longer, but width is more important than length - the extra inch of width under your center of gravity will really make the most of the lift your wave has.

    Duane.

  8. #28
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    I don’t want to thread jack, but I’ve been curious about the Bentley? How is it for doing 360’s and shove-it’s? I’ve been really hesitant to get another skim style after I regretted buying the H/L Shim, but I really want to get to doing foot tricks.
    2020 SA 450 Wife calls it White Cloud. Said it makes her feel "Classy"
    2017 Sanger V215sx. We call it Viagra because it's the little blue pill that gets everyone up (Sold)

  9. #29
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    @Branden Here's the link I promised showing our ballast bag setup:

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/3rcwPyMtt2pfZrpC7

    Edit: forgot to mention we are all "regular foot" riders. bags would be opposite if you were riding goofy.
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