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  1. #21
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    Default 400 with 1.76 transmission prop choices

    Supra no longer offers the 16x15.

    Choices are
    Standard 16x17
    Optional 16x13.9, 16x12.5

    My dealer recommends the 16x13.9, 80% take rate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DNIXD99 View Post
    I thought lower Pitch was supposed to produce lower RPM, and lower Top Speed.
    No. It will produce a lower speed at the same rpm as before, but more torque/thrust. So if you have a top engine speed of 5000rpm, your top speed will be lower at that rpm the it was was with a higher pitched prop.


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    Quote Originally Posted by larry_arizona View Post
    Supra no longer offers the 16x15.

    Choices are
    Standard 16x17
    Optional 16x13.9, 16x12.5

    My dealer recommends the 16x13.9, 80% take rate.


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    The 16x13.9 sounds weird AF—must have a lot of cup to make up for the pitch. Any idea what cup is?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stazi View Post
    No. It will produce a lower speed at the same rpm as before, but more torque/thrust. So if you have a top engine speed of 5000rpm, your top speed will be lower at that rpm the it was was with a higher pitched prop.


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    Well that makes sense then. I guess my 2943 (10.5 pitch) was operating properly. I had more torque, but higher RPMs at the same surf speed. I see a lot of people doing the exact same thing, and expecting lower RPMs at the same surf speed. I went back to my 2419 (12 pitch). It has just enough power for my setup, and runs about 300-500 less RPMs. Ideally, I think Id want an 11.5, but Acme doesnt sell it. Thanks for the clarification. It makes sense.
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    Default 400 with 1.76 transmission prop choices

    Quote Originally Posted by dakota4ce View Post
    The 16x13.9 sounds weird AF—must have a lot of cup to make up for the pitch. Any idea what cup is?


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    Cup is .105”

    Here is the link:
    https://acmemarine.com/products/acme...-13-90-4-blade


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    Quote Originally Posted by larry_arizona View Post
    Cup is .105”

    Here is the link:
    https://acmemarine.com/products/acme...-13-90-4-blade


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    Seem to remember that .025 cup sort of acts like 1” of pitch, or at least can. This makes sense if my recall is on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dakota4ce View Post
    Seem to remember that .025 cup sort of acts like 1” of pitch, or at least can. This makes sense if my recall is on.


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    Seems like someone designed a very specific prop..... perhaps SC custom designed this prop for the 1.76 trans? The 13.9 is a very specific pitch.

    It appears to have replaced the 16x15 prop option.


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    Quote Originally Posted by larry_arizona View Post
    Seems like someone designed a very specific prop..... perhaps SC custom designed this prop for the 1.76 trans? The 13.9 is a very specific pitch.

    It appears to have replaced the 16x15 prop option.


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    I did just chat with Jim at Acme two days ago and he did not mention it. Oddly enough. And I called specifically to discuss 16 X 15.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dakota4ce View Post
    I did just chat with Jim at Acme two days ago and he did not mention it. Oddly enough. And I called specifically to discuss 16 X 15.


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    To clarify, SC no longer offers the 16x15 option, at least not on the Supras.


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    Quote Originally Posted by larry_arizona View Post
    To clarify, SC no longer offers the 16x15 option, at least not on the Supras.


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    Moombas are all OJ props from the factory. Always strikes me as peculiar. The factory 15.5x16.5 may be just fine, too.


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