Flow 3.0 - Is it good?

[jazzvancouver]

Hi, can anyone comment on the 3.0 Flow, specifically what effect does it have on the wave over the 2.0? Is it a feature worth paying for or more of a gimmick? Considering for a 2021 Craz. Thanks!

[Stazi]

Great question. I would love to see the difference in the wave from the 2.0 plates to he 3.0 plates.


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[Isaguel]

You would need a side-side comparison. I personally believe what makes by far the most difference in these boats is weight. If you're gonna spend any money on these boats for aftermarket wake improvement, put that money into upgraded ballast systems, like WM's bag busters for the Max, or extra lead. I think the 3.0 is an extra 1100$ on the Mojo. Put that money into Lead, you're gonna get far more results for your dollar that way.
A tab is a tab, it causes list mainly and some delayed convergence secondarily, the improvement is probably marginal by changing the tab shape.
You know what I would really consider spending money on, if there was an option to add surf gates IN ADDITION to the tabs. I wonder what the effect would be.
You would have the list from tab and full delayed convergence from gates, with enough weight, I would assume one should get significant enhancement of the wave length mostly. I don't use the ghetto gates or the mission gates because I don't like stuff that does not look OEM, plus I don't think those are large enough in surface area to produce enough lateral water divergence. I would like it if it was mounted cleanly from factory though.

[Hayden]

I personally believe what makes by far the most difference in these boats is weight. If you're gonna spend any money on these boats for aftermarket wake improvement, put that money into upgraded ballast systems, like WM's bag busters for the Max, or extra lead.

I agree that spending money on maxing out ballast is the first step. After that it's picking the options that give you the most fun on the water imo; shorter transitions and faster wave cleanup when swapping, seems like it would be really good. (All anecdotal evidence from researching/watching Moomba youtube videos all week.)

[dakota4ce]

I agree that spending money on maxing out ballast is the first step. After that it's picking the options that give you the most fun on the water imo; shorter transitions and faster wave cleanup when swapping, seems like it would be really good. (All anecdotal evidence from researching/watching Moomba youtube videos all week.)

Please accept my eyewitness accounts of it working. It does. Basically accomplishes what the swell 3.0 system accomplishes on the supra with a slightly different mechanical approach


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[jazzvancouver]

Thank you all for the answers.

[Bigswede]

New guy here, but wake9 just posted a video on how the difference between the two systems.

[MJHSupra]

New guy here, but wake9 just posted a video on how the difference between the two systems.

https://forum.moomba.com/showthread....the-2021-Makai

[MJHSupra]

The Wake9 crew has been riding some Moomba boats recently. They will have some videos on the setups and waves on the different models. Yesterday on social media I was looking at the Mondo wave. The Makai will be after that.

It does not answer you plate question, but wanted to throw that out there as some people have trouble with setup and what the boat can produce.

[dakota4ce]

A lot of misconception about there about what tabs and gates do.

Yes 3.0 is worth it. It does not make a different shaped wave, or a larger wave.

It introduces more yaw to the hull as it travels through the water. The main effect is that your wave face will be clean with less roll and true level weighting. You can switch the wave side to side—without moving weight—and have a clean wave face on both sides.

That’s it. And it works.

As for the addition of gates to tabs as mentioned above, this is really kinda what 3.0 does. Introduces MORE yaw. Yaw creates the “delayed convergence” more than the tab alters water flow. If that makes any sense.


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