2020 Moomba Makai surf set up question

[GreersFerryARK]

Tow with 1100 lbs. We have 100 lbs under each rear bag. 100lbs in each rear locker. 100 lbs each in both rear corner seats. 200 lbs under each midship bag. 100 lbs on the floor in the bow. Then we use 100 that we move to each surf side.

Thanks for the info. Also finding that we are gonna to need more weight with our Makai. Where did u buy ur bags ?

[Arcadyus]

Thanks for the info. Also finding that we are gonna to need more weight with our Makai. Where did u buy ur bags ?

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[Isaguel]

Crazy to think the Makai has a hard time putting out a great wave. Its a 5200lb boat + 4000lb ballast + >400lbs fuel+ crew should be displacing >10k lbs easy. Something's amiss.
Wonder if the size of the boat and the flatter bottom hull are reasons. The larger the boat the more hull surface area for buoyancy and hence the more weight you will need to sink it. A more pronounced V shaped hull will dig deeper into water and displace more. I guess I don't remember the shape of the Makai hull well.
But, even so, an extra 1000 lbs lead should make up for it. My mojo only had 4000lbs total ballast and the boat 4400lbs and produced a very surfable wave, buts it's smaller boat.

And for whatever its worth, my 2 cents, go for lead instead of bags. Cannot overstate the importance of storage when you have a large crew. I always wished I would of used lead instead of enzo's. I hated not having walking room and negotiating coolers and towel bags and other stuff when moving around. We always have friends in our boat. Biggest issue is extra weight towing and if you have skiers in your crew. No one in my family ski's so.

[2in2out]

My wife and I are in the process of selling our Sanger V215sx, and are very interested in the 2021 Makia. I would prefer to have a 21 SA, but she can't see past the dollar signs.

I appreciate this thread because it is helping me plan for when we purchase. I'll be salvaging 400lbs of lead from our current boat, and since it is just her and I and two Ausholes most days, I'll be looking for 500 more.

That being said, storage is a concern as well. We have a large tube for the kids, and all the other accoutrements of family boating with young-un's, dogs, and FOP's alike. I don't want to thread-jack, but what pros and cons of the Makai do you Makai owners have with regards to surfing. I surf, and my wife is just getting willing to try. We have been teaching boat guests how to surf, and have the occasional wakeboarder. I've found some boards that surf well for me, and am looking forward to longer waves with more push so I can get on the old guy 360 thread, if I remember my GoPro.

We really are trying to be wise with our purchase. It's a lot of money, and we quickly outgrew our Sanger, and don't want to make the same mistake. Any info without overtaking the original intent of this thread would be appreciated.

[Max20]

I bought a leftover ‘19 in April. Timing was on my side. I can tell you for sure it has storage for days. We have 4 kids and definitely still tube. I have 2 large tubes that I inflate and deflate when necessary and store them in the storage trays when not in use and it works well. I have 500 lbs of lead on order. When I have our family on the boat it’s difficult for me to run without the rope. Throw a couple more big people on the boat (around 500 lbs) I can run without the rope until the boat runs out of gas.

Our 12 year old girls on the other hand can surf ropeless with just our family with no problem at all.

I love the makai

[SONIC]

I see wake9 and others talking about displacement and adding up the weight of the boat etc but that's a meaningless number IMO without also referencing the size of the boat.
Take a 21' boat and a 23' boat with the same overall weights. They are technically displacing the same amount of water but the 21' is sitting deeper in the water for the same displacement thanks to it's smaller surface area. This translates to a larger wave, I think draft is just as important as weight.
My last boat was a 23V and a buddy has a 21V. Same exact boat with 2 extra feet in the middle and the 23 takes a lot more weight to make the same wave.

Same with the Makai, you've got a boat that's not that much heavier than it's siblings overall but has significantly more surface area so it doesn't sink as deeply in the water with the same weight. Hence the need for 1000lbs of extra weight to get a great wave. I would venture that more weight would make an even better wave.

[RUGER761]

I run roughly 300lbs right now in the back under the corner seats. I can ride ropeless all day long even with 2 people in the boat now that I have it dialed in better. Will 1000lbs make it better and easier to dial in, you bet it will but its not a must if your skill level is there and your on the proper board for your size. All depends on the size of wave you want it to put out. It can go from mild to huge and most prefer the huge wave, so they run more weight. I personally won't be swapping out the rear bags as we use the storage bins. Speaking of storage, its huge. I put 2 surf boards under the front observer seat and bow for traveling and my son's board under 1 of the rear benches.

[dakota4ce]

I see wake9 and others talking about displacement and adding up the weight of the boat etc but that's a meaningless number IMO without also referencing the size of the boat.
Take a 21' boat and a 23' boat with the same overall weights. They are technically displacing the same amount of water but the 21' is sitting deeper in the water for the same displacement thanks to it's smaller surface area. This translates to a larger wave, I think draft is just as important as weight.
My last boat was a 23V and a buddy has a 21V. Same exact boat with 2 extra feet in the middle and the 23 takes a lot more weight to make the same wave.

Same with the Makai, you've got a boat that's not that much heavier than it's siblings overall but has significantly more surface area so it doesn't sink as deeply in the water with the same weight. Hence the need for 1000lbs of extra weight to get a great wave. I would venture that more weight would make an even better wave.

This absolutely nails it. Well said.

And running around the lake with 1200+ of lead in the boat kind of sucks is you ask me. The makai is a huge boat with tons of storage. For me, driving and towing with less lead weight in the boat trumps the extra storage.


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[RUGER761]

This absolutely nails it. Well said.

And running around the lake with 1200+ of lead in the boat kind of sucks is you ask me. The makai is a huge boat with tons of storage. For me, driving and towing with less lead weight in the boat trumps the extra storage.


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Very true, its nice to dump all the weight to cruise or towing.

[Arcadyus]

This absolutely nails it. Well said.

And running around the lake with 1200+ of lead in the boat kind of sucks is you ask me. The makai is a huge boat with tons of storage. For me, driving and towing with less lead weight in the boat trumps the extra storage.


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Why? It holds 6500 lbs what's a 1000lbs of lead gonna do? I don't even notice a diff with 1250lbs of lead or zero when ballasts are empty.