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  1. #51
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    Default The 2020 Supra SE550 is a heavy girl!

    Iíve felt the hardest part is finding a 2Ē ball, and adjustable one at that, able to handle these boats. Even all B&W 2Ē adjustable hitches are only 7k. Every brick and mortar chain has weak sauce 2Ē hitches. Recently had to resort to using a rated for 5k hitch for a short tow until my online purchase came in because of the weak brick and mortar selection (despite living in truck country) because my new truck sits so much higher.

    I suspect lots of folks using underrated hitches... hell even I did and I was trying as most likely donít care.


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    Default The 2020 Supra SE550 is a heavy girl!

    Quote Originally Posted by FamilyMan View Post
    Iíve felt the hardest part is finding a 2Ē ball, and adjustable one at that, able to handle these boats. Even all B&W 2Ē adjustable hitches are only 7k. Every brick and mortar chain has weak sauce 2Ē hitches. Recently had to resort to using a rated for 5k hitch for a short tow until my online purchase came in because of the weak brick and mortar selection (despite living in truck country) because my new truck sits so much higher.

    I suspect lots of folks using underrated hitches... hell even I did and I was trying as most likely donít care.


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    Will these work for you?


    https://www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Drop_Hitch.aspx

    B&W has 10k# adjustables

    https://www.bwtrailerhitches.com/pro...ble-ball-mount

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    Last edited by larry_arizona; 06-28-2020 at 07:45 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by larry_arizona View Post
    Will these work for you?


    https://www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Drop_Hitch.aspx

    B&W has 10k# adjustables

    https://www.bwtrailerhitches.com/pro...ble-ball-mount

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    Those aluminum ones will work, just so-so reviews though. The B&W like I said is only rated to 7500lbs with the 2" ball, which is unfortunate as I really think it is a slick system and would be my choice. Instead just ordered the curt adjustable, which is rated at 10k for the 2".
    2018 Max - Ultrablue flake/Gray - 4400 lbs water (720s midship), 750 lbs lead somewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by FamilyMan View Post
    Those aluminum ones will work, just so-so reviews though. The B&W like I said is only rated to 7500lbs with the 2" ball, which is unfortunate as I really think it is a slick system and would be my choice. Instead just ordered the curt adjustable, which is rated at 10k for the 2".
    This is what I ended up doing last year when I realized my B&W was cutting it close. The Curt works great and I ended up just leaving my rock tamers on it and leaving it with the boat at the storage unit as it is the only thing that I dont use my B&W for.


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    This is what I get out of this thread:

    Ford hitches don't match the tow rating of the truck so you have to use a weight distributing hitch but weight distributing hitches don't work with boat trailers so you have to use your Ford without a weight distributing hitch which means you can't use your Ford to tow most modern wekeboats unless you remove the stock hitch and upgrade.

    Did I summarize correctly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tre View Post
    This is what I get out of this thread:
    Buy a Chevy or GMC . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by tre View Post
    This is what I get out of this thread:

    Ford hitches don't match the tow rating of the truck so you have to use a weight distributing hitch but weight distributing hitches don't work with boat trailers so you have to use your Ford without a weight distributing hitch which means you can't use your Ford to tow most modern wekeboats unless you remove the stock hitch and upgrade.

    Did I summarize correctly?
    Technically.

    Also canít really remove factory hitch, itís part of the bumper assy. But curt Makes one that fits around it.

    Or you can cut part of the factory hitch off and Curt makes a hitch for that.

    Clear as mud.

    Maybe Ford has it figured out on the new gen
    F150 lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tre View Post
    This is what I get out of this thread:

    Ford hitches don't match the tow rating of the truck so you have to use a weight distributing hitch but weight distributing hitches don't work with boat trailers so you have to use your Ford without a weight distributing hitch which means you can't use your Ford to tow most modern wekeboats unless you remove the stock hitch and upgrade.

    Did I summarize correctly?
    You almost have it right. The factory hitch is rated for the full 13200lbs, even without the WDH. What the WDH does is distribute some downforce onto the front axle to prevent loss of traction from front tires and possible loss of control of vehicle. That is the problem, not hitch failure. The truck is like a teeter totter with the fulcrum at the rear axle. Too much downforce on the hitch lifts the front of truck, hence losing traction at the front wheels. The WDH DOES NOT remove weight from the hitch, that is impossible since it does not attach anywhere on the frame. It uses torsion bars to produce a torque that keeps the hitch and truck level, under enormous tension, if installed correctly, hence distributing weight along the truck, but downforce on hitch is the same. Adding a more heavy duty hitch will do nothing unless you somehow attach it forward on the truck frame, meaning in front of rear axle, which is not possible.
    Moral of story, since we cannot use a WDH because of the design of our trailers, when driving, be mindfull of road conditions, wet roads, rain, you can lose traction with a sharper turn or evasive maneuver, or hydroplane easier.

    A larger truck like a F350 or a larger diesel GMC 3500 will be much better because its a heavier truck, much more weight up front from much heavier engine and tranny compared to the smaller lighter block of a v6 on a F150 ecoboost, or even the smaller 2.5 ltr ecoboost.
    There is also the issue of uneven wear of tires, brakes, brake discs, rear axle and other components in the rear due to the uneven weight. It is dangerous if one is not cognizant of this issue. I drove 1.5 hrs in the rain on sunday night anfter a day in the lake and was going no faster than 55-60. Wife gets anxie until I explain the whole WDH and hitch/trailering issue. THen she was OK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FamilyMan View Post
    Those aluminum ones will work, just so-so reviews though. The B&W like I said is only rated to 7500lbs with the 2" ball, which is unfortunate as I really think it is a slick system and would be my choice. Instead just ordered the curt adjustable, which is rated at 10k for the 2".
    Boat mate needs to start using the 2 5/16" coupler for the Makai like the supras use IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tre View Post
    This is what I get out of this thread:

    Ford hitches don't match the tow rating of the truck so you have to use a weight distributing hitch but weight distributing hitches don't work with boat trailers so you have to use your Ford without a weight distributing hitch which means you can't use your Ford to tow most modern wekeboats unless you remove the stock hitch and upgrade.

    Did I summarize correctly?
    You forgot that about Ford promoting their trucks towing more than the weight carrying capacity of the hitch. And also that no one has really heard about any failures despite people "overloading" them all the time.
    David

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