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12-13-2019, 03:28 PM #11
Tow vehicle question
Last edited by larry_arizona; 12-13-2019 at 03:31 PM.
2021 Supra SA 400
2018 Supra SA 400 (SOLD)
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12-13-2019, 04:42 PM #12
ford has been doing this for years and not just the 150. our '99 f250 super duty has the same hitch and same ratings.... on a superduty.
sad that our chevy 1500 with the z71 tow pack has a hitch that's rated at 12k.
I am going to hazzard a guess that lawyers are the reason ford doesn't put a more robust sticker on the hitch on the truck. betting there was a lawsuit in the distant past that has not been forgotten.
the reality is there are thousands of f150's running around with the 5000lb hitch regularly towing much more demanding loads and if it was causing accidents left and right, it would have made the news/interwebs. not saying to do so but just saying.....'06 Supra Launch 20SSV-gone but never forgotten
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12-13-2019, 04:44 PM #13
Tow vehicle question
2021 Supra SA 400
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12-13-2019, 05:09 PM #14Junior Member
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12-13-2019, 05:29 PM #15
Tow vehicle question
There are two options.
1) curt Makes one that fits around factory hitch.
C14016
Or
2) you need to either cut off factory receiver as it is integral to bumper assy. or replace with the non hitch bumper assy. Then you can install the Curt hitch without factory hitch option.
C14017
https://www.etrailer.com/hitch-2019_Ford_F-150.htm
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLast edited by larry_arizona; 12-13-2019 at 05:38 PM.
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Michigan
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12-13-2019, 06:09 PM #16
Yup cut it and install the Curt C14017. That’s what I did and looks and performs great!
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12-13-2019, 06:19 PM #17
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12-13-2019, 06:32 PM #18
completely with ya larry...
just saying that there are thousands of them running around doing towing duty with that factory hitch. would think if it was a bigger issue the webs would have stories of why to replace but there isn't a lot of info out there. see a few threads like this off and on talking about replacing but not much else.
frankly I never looked into it prior to a thread on here a while back. visual comparison(and I'm not an engineer) are that both my ford and chevy are mounted the exact same, same size bolts and metal looks to be the same thickness. the only discernible difference are the chevy has 2 "arms" per side holding up the square cross tubing while the ford has a single "arm" on each side(same as the curt).
I still think this is more a case of ford lawyers and wanting to pass the buck. towing and accident ensues there are 2 things:
-your at fault for towing beyond the stickered hitch from the factory
-curt/install shop is at fault for cutting/replacing the factory hitch with something else.
either way ford is off the hook.'06 Supra Launch 20SSV-gone but never forgotten
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12-13-2019, 06:50 PM #19
Scary how many overload hitches.
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12-13-2019, 07:47 PM #20Junior Member
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I have owned several tow vehicles from the suburban to a few different silverados (gas and diesel) 1/2 and 3/4 ton. One suburban was modified with an LS3 stock trans pulling my '14 SA350. You would never know the boat was back there. The burb weighed as much as the boat and trailer if not more, so no pushing it around. The motor putt to the ground 450hp 500tq at the wheels. It did get 20mpg pulling the boat but required 93octane.
My 1/2 Silverados were pushed around by the '14 SA350. They never felt under powered to pull the boat but felt short on braking power and the being pushed around on curvy roads while driving around the lakes never made my wife comfortable. I've never had an issue with the fuel management systems. Mileage has always been in the low teens or single digits while towing. I can only imagine a twin turbo 6 sucking gas at highway speeds.
My 3/4tons one gas great pulling and stopping but sucked gas like we were having an economic crisis. The diesel pulled and stopped great and the fuel mileage is far better than gas. My deleted / tuned Duramax pulled the 14 SA350 to the tune of 20mpg. I now have a 19 Ram 2500 and will be pulling a 19 SL400 so I have no idea what the numbers will be.
What i do know if you don't want to get the pushed around feeling you need a vehicle that weighs close to the weight of what you are towing. If you want fuel mileage i don't think a twin turbo that requires high RPMs to make its power to be your choice as its going to suck gas pulling the boat down the highway. We looked at an SUV but nothing out there has a GVCR that will allow us to pull a heavy boat and all our stuff. When you boat/trailer residual fuel are ~8k and your max tow for most SUVs are 8k theres not much out there.
Towing isn't just tongue weight and tow rating, its also the payload. You load up your vehicle and it takes away from the overall maximum towing capacity by eating into your payload capacity. Its all the same.