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  1. #1
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    Default Out with the Craz in with the MC XT21

    After two summers of messing around with an inconsistent wave, annoying rattles, constant error codes, stereo issues, dolling out $$ to keep trying to get a wave to push my 240 lbs, and most important our local dealer losing the Skiers Choice line, I’ve moved on to a 19’ MC XT21. With stock ballast, empty tank and two people in the boat I surfed all day no issues. Even better all I had to do was push a button and it worked. Looking forward to how it will do when I put my 400# of lead in it. Before we went with the MC we drove a malibu 21VLX and MLX and nautique 210. Supra was not considered because of no local support. All are great boats and a welcome upgrade to the next level of boat. Just came down to preference and $. The time with the Craz was not all bad, the boat got me into surfing or attempted surfing, of which it has become a summer passion. This forum was on my nightly reading and it will be missed. Adios Moomba Brothers, as I switch to MC Team Talk eventually.
    2017 Craz Surf Edition
    1140 lbs rear bags
    Wet Sounds 10” sub Icon 8’s

  2. #2
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    I don’t own a moomba, but from everything I’ve read they perform really well and most dealers offer great support. Sounds like if your dealer lost Skier’s choice part of this may have been on them. I think this case may be more exception than the rule.

    Either way best of luck with the MC. Glad to hear you’re happy with your new boat.

  3. #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgswake View Post
    I don’t own a moomba, but from everything I’ve read they perform really well and most dealers offer great support. Sounds like if your dealer lost Skier’s choice part of this may have been on them. I think this case may be more exception than the rule.

    Either way best of luck with the MC. Glad to hear you’re happy with your new boat.
    Not offended by your post. The issues I has was no so much the autowake in as much as the effort to make it work and to a lesser degree the small quality issues that $70k boat should not have. I’m really just not a person that wants to mess with anything I just want the system to work and do the work for me. After I rode in a buddies 18’ XT22 and saw the simplicity of the operation along with a wave that I could surf, I was hooked on the next bump up in boat. The XT line is the middle of the road line up of MC, it gives you next level bling and most important a near automatic system. Push a button and go. XT21 was at the right price for me so I jumped, larger XT models, X models, Supras, Nautique not anywhere near my budget. Like they always say an “ass for every seat”. Hell I was in love with the Craz when I got that and the Sea Ray and the Rinker... I’m sure 2 years from now I’ll be in love with the next cool gotta have surf/wake boat. Working on owning every brand 4 down, LOL. Enjoy your Waves, hang loose.
    2017 Craz Surf Edition
    1140 lbs rear bags
    Wet Sounds 10” sub Icon 8’s

  4. #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOMITC74 View Post
    Not offended by your post. The issues I has was no so much the autowake in as much as the effort to make it work and to a lesser degree the small quality issues that $70k boat should not have. I’m really just not a person that wants to mess with anything I just want the system to work and do the work for me. After I rode in a buddies 18’ XT22 and saw the simplicity of the operation along with a wave that I could surf, I was hooked on the next bump up in boat. The XT line is the middle of the road line up of MC, it gives you next level bling and most important a near automatic system. Push a button and go. XT21 was at the right price for me so I jumped, larger XT models, X models, Supras, Nautique not anywhere near my budget. Like they always say an “ass for every seat”. Hell I was in love with the Craz when I got that and the Sea Ray and the Rinker... I’m sure 2 years from now I’ll be in love with the next cool gotta have surf/wake boat. Working on owning every brand 4 down, LOL. Enjoy your Waves, hang loose.
    no pictures of the new ride?
    David

    2017 Moomba Mojo Max Surf Edition, 2 Pair Wetsounds Rev10s powered by an SD2, 6 pair Wetsounds XS650M and Wetsounds XS12 powered by SD6 all controlled by a WS420. 2 Lumitec SeaBlaze X2 Spectrum underwater lights

    SOLD***2008 Mobius LSV, Gravity III , Wake Plate, Z5, Exile SX65c's, Exile XM9s, Exile XI12D, Exile Javelin, Exile 30.2***SOLD

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOMITC74 View Post
    Not offended by your post. The issues I has was no so much the autowake in as much as the effort to make it work and to a lesser degree the small quality issues that $70k boat should not have. I’m really just not a person that wants to mess with anything I just want the system to work and do the work for me. .
    I know there is truth in this as people are looking for surf systems with not having to mess around each time.

    Most people on here like to play around, learn, change, move ballast, and dial in their boats. I was just at the local dealer when a new Craz owner walked in and basically said the same thing about trying to get a good surf wave. Loved the boat, but was very frustrated at the surf wave each time out. Luckily they had a good dealer who is willing to take this person out on the water (again) and teach him how to use the system, make sure it was working properly, and give some suggestions on where people need to sit when starting off.

    Loosing a dealer is a major blow on these new boats.
    2018 Supra SL400

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    Sounds to me like you don’t understand the autowake system or how to set up a surf boat. I love my Craz. I get a perfect wave every time out. Just move a few bags a lead to offset where people are sitting. This is stock ballast, 300lbs of lead a few coolers and 4 adults.





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    2018 Moomba Craz
    6.2L Raptor 400
    6 Pump Ballast, Autowake 2.0, Flow 2.0 Surf System
    OJ 15x13 Wake Prop
    Digital Cruise Pro 3 (paddle wheel)
    Wetsounds Rev 10's

    2005 Supra Launch 22SSV - Sold

  7. #7
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    Sorry, that was little harsh. Maybe I should say, no one ever showed you how to properly use the autowake or set up the boat for surfing. I just took a fellow Moomba owner out last week and gave him some tips. It is amazing how bad your wave can be if you don’t have the surf tabs set correctly, speed is off, or weighted incorrectly.


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    2018 Moomba Craz
    6.2L Raptor 400
    6 Pump Ballast, Autowake 2.0, Flow 2.0 Surf System
    OJ 15x13 Wake Prop
    Digital Cruise Pro 3 (paddle wheel)
    Wetsounds Rev 10's

    2005 Supra Launch 22SSV - Sold

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    Would you be able to share how you use Autowake? I am still trying to figure out mine. I shut it off most of the time.
    2019 Mondo

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    Sure thing. There are tons of posts on here, but the best one to read is where Matt Brown from SC posts about the autowake. If you PM me you email, I will give you a document I made up that extracts all of his posts....it saves you from reading 400 pages of crap.


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    2018 Moomba Craz
    6.2L Raptor 400
    6 Pump Ballast, Autowake 2.0, Flow 2.0 Surf System
    OJ 15x13 Wake Prop
    Digital Cruise Pro 3 (paddle wheel)
    Wetsounds Rev 10's

    2005 Supra Launch 22SSV - Sold

  10. #10
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    Here are my surf tab, wake plate, speed, and pitch and roll settings. I did lower my surf left pitch down to 7.5 this year. That flattened the wave out a little, but made it longer. I like a longer, less steep wave. Just my preference.


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    2018 Moomba Craz
    6.2L Raptor 400
    6 Pump Ballast, Autowake 2.0, Flow 2.0 Surf System
    OJ 15x13 Wake Prop
    Digital Cruise Pro 3 (paddle wheel)
    Wetsounds Rev 10's

    2005 Supra Launch 22SSV - Sold

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