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  1. #21
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    Speaking of waves, I just notified this on my YT notifications. Always admired the Centurions but $$$$ for that wave!


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    [QUOTE=Pound;336703]I've never been in or behind an axis. but in 100% fairness, all i've heard is they do put out a nice surf wave stock.

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    Actually, Malibu and Axis put out a terrible wave in total stock form from the factory. The plug and play option is only hoses, valves and vents, no bags. So an A22 with just small factory hard tanks and a wedge isn't going to be better that a stock Craz. That being said, like others previously, not many people leave them in stock form. The article for the video states that if pnp was an option from the factory, they used it. Well, pnp doesn't get you bags. So just like all the videos, they are full of crap.
    2018 Supra SA400 aka The Ron Burgandy
    2011 Sea-Doo Wake 155
    2015 Mojo Surf, sold...2013 Axis A22 Recon Edition, sold...2010 Axis A22, sold...2007 Maxum 180sr3, sold

  3. #23
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    Wow I didn’t realize they sold pnp without bags. That’s crazy. I mean I know a lot of people swap out stock bags for larger ones but still you would expect some kind of bag with a pnp option. The A22 i demoed had 850 SUMO sacs in there so I guess the dealer added them.

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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by haknslash View Post
    Wow I didn’t realize they sold pnp without bags. That’s crazy. I mean I know a lot of people swap out stock bags for larger ones but still you would expect some kind of bag with a pnp option.
    Yeah the Axis’ are actually rated without bags. So once you add those the stated capacity of 16 (on a 22 footer) is technically only in the neighborhood of ~12.


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    From what I know and can remember from the couple Axis that I have had, it is a legal and safety thing. From my understanding, the Skiers Choice boats will not totally sink if submerged. I am thinking that is not the case with the Malibu/Axis boats. Maybe someone with more knowledge can chime in.
    2018 Supra SA400 aka The Ron Burgandy
    2011 Sea-Doo Wake 155
    2015 Mojo Surf, sold...2013 Axis A22 Recon Edition, sold...2010 Axis A22, sold...2007 Maxum 180sr3, sold

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    article for the video states that if pnp was an option from the factory, they used it. Well, pnp doesn't get you bags.
    Goes on to state they used the "recommended" PnP sacs. So technically not factory, like the other boats.

    Wow I didn’t realize they sold pnp without bags.
    Hence the PnP designation. Other wise, it would just be additional ballast option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haknslash View Post
    Speaking of waves, I just notified this on my YT notifications. Always admired the Centurions but $$$$ for that wave!

    That kid is about 100 lbs, and the board goes up to his chin. I could get 25'+ behind my boat on a board that goes to my chin, too.
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  8. #28
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    Just watched. 12.5 mph, 120# 28” waist kid on a 4’10” skimmer. And 5’ of slack in the tape.

    Really guys? C’mon. The rest of the wave blows, it’s flat and boring. These guys have to know they’re spewing total horse manure but it works on some people so they do it anyway.

    Nice feedback from the kid.


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  9. #29
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    Just got back from the DFW boat show and Malibu/Axis dealer had a tower in the middle of their section with 4 TVs....guess what was playing
    2018 Max - Ultrablue flake/Gray - 4400 lbs water (720s midship), 750 lbs lead somewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by dakota4ce View Post
    I would rather use real weight than “wedge” weight. The increase in relative drag with the wedge is crazy high, whereas you can sink the ass of a boat with straight weight and not be pulling a parachute through the water.

    And yes to the bow weight. My buds 17 23LSV needs a hideous triangle bow sac to remotely work well enough to hang with our other crew boats (SL, SE, Makai, RZX3).


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    Oh I don't like the axis/Malibu wedge crap either.....sucks gas. Just saying anything that rear heavy is gonna ride bow high.....I have an old ass 2002 Calabria Pro-V so ANY of these newer boats would be bad ass to me lol. But mine with a Nauticurl does OK for me and my recreational crew.

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